Ladies, do you look at dirty magazines?

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  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
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    I prefer not to elaborate on my sex life, so I'll leave the discussion with a parting statement:

    Some people don't need to look for "outside ideas" to have great sex. Morally, I find porn to be absolutely disgusting. The prevalence of it in our society sickens me. If I ever discover that there is something missing in my sex life, which I doubt, I'll just experiment with him with what ideas we come up with while discussing it.

    there is actually porn geared towards straight women, it is harder to find but it's out there. you may be more interested in that, but then again some people just dislike all forms in general.

    it's actually amazing how ok porn is when you realize that men can differentiate between porn and their actual sex lives. they can and do use porn for inspiration but I haven't run into one yet who expects me to completely unhinge my jaw or anything.

    Just wait until our first date.

    I said they don't expect me to..... I never said I can't do it. :wink:

    I am going to buy you $20 worth of bourbon. :love:

    if you go for $25 you won't even have to roofie me

    $30 just to be safe
  • 5n0wbal1
    5n0wbal1 Posts: 429 Member
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    It isn't quite rude. You're 19, probably newly married, and likely this has been your only partner. It is highly unlikely that you have learned exactly what you like, sexually. And if your husband is also inexperienced, then it only makes it more unlikely. I am sorry if you feel that observation is rude, but your earlier statement opened you up to this sort of critique.

    I find it to be extremely rude.

    We have been together and active for three years, which has allowed for plenty of exploration. All of that, however, is for me to know, and not for others to make assumptions about. I would never make such assumptions about a person. They know about their life, not me.

    Well I think that's really good. Wish I was that happy when I was 19 with my sex life.....

    Call me when you're 35 and tell me how everything is.

    Amen, Sister!!!

    Yep. Headed for 3rd anniversary with two kids and I'm hitting that point.
  • TheSlorax
    TheSlorax Posts: 2,401 Member
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    It isn't quite rude. You're 19, probably newly married, and likely this has been your only partner. It is highly unlikely that you have learned exactly what you like, sexually. And if your husband is also inexperienced, then it only makes it more unlikely. I am sorry if you feel that observation is rude, but your earlier statement opened you up to this sort of critique.

    I find it to be extremely rude.

    We have been together and active for three years, which has allowed for plenty of exploration. All of that, however, is for me to know, and not for others to make assumptions about. I would never make such assumptions about a person. They know about their life, not me.

    Also, I find this is a little odd. Typically a person who is morally against porn and very private about sex is also very religious. But you started having sex, which I presume was before marriage, at 16? I find that an odd mixing of morality.

    I'm not religious at all. I don't see anything explicitly wrong with premarital sex, but I do think it is admirable to wait until marriage. At the risk of sounding incredibly corny, I'll go ahead and say that the reason I decided to have sex with him before we were wed is because I knew he was "the one". I knew we would be married, so it wasn't really a concern.

    See, now you're throwing me for a loop. :laugh: If you don't have a religious objection against it, then where do you derive your anti-porn stance from?

    I am a little confused also. is this a feminist standpoint? just "morality" is a little odd of a reason, as I know a lot of very moral, respectful men who happen to watch porn.
  • 5n0wbal1
    5n0wbal1 Posts: 429 Member
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    I am a little confused also. is this a feminist standpoint? just "morality" is a little odd of a reason, as I know a lot of very moral, respectful men who happen to watch porn.

    Me too.
  • hungryhobbit1
    hungryhobbit1 Posts: 259 Member
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    Now, now. Don't we have anything better to do than harassing a 19 year old? Most people between the ages of 18 and 24 know everything. Let her be, at this point it's just unkind.

    OP: I agree with the general sentiment that no one particularly looks at magazines anymore and when they did it was still kind of understood that Playgirl wasn't really primarily for girls. If your friend is going to do this he probably has to get over the idea that he can control who will see it. If it really bothers him it's probably not a good idea. He should also give some thought to what he wants to do in the future and whether or not it could prove problematic.
  • abberbabber
    abberbabber Posts: 972 Member
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    I am a little confused also. is this a feminist standpoint? just "morality" is a little odd of a reason, as I know a lot of very moral, respectful men who happen to watch porn.

    Me too.

    I think we're all confused now :laugh:
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
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    I am a little confused also. is this a feminist standpoint? just "morality" is a little odd of a reason, as I know a lot of very moral, respectful men who happen to watch porn.

    I hadn't considered a feminist viewpoint. Hmm. But ultimately does it matter if the woman is choosing to do it?

    My morality is strongly based in O'ism, so I have actual reasons for my moral stances.
  • jennyrebekka
    jennyrebekka Posts: 626 Member
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    No, not unless i am reenacting my days of babysitting in the 80s......when i would put the kid to bed and then search high and low for the "Daddy's" stash
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
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    Now, now. Don't we have anything better to do than harassing a 19 year old? Most people between the ages of 18 and 24 know everything. Let her be, at this point it's just unkind.

    OP: I agree with the general sentiment that no one particularly looks at magazines anymore and when they did it was still kind of understood that Playgirl wasn't really primarily for girls. If your friend is going to do this he probably has to get over the idea that he can control who will see it. If it really bothers him it's probably not a good idea. He should also give some thought to what he wants to do in the future and whether or not it could prove problematic.

    Critical thinking is important. By asking her these questions, it gives her (and us) a chance to self-examine our beliefs.
  • Airadet
    Airadet Posts: 31 Member
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    See, now you're throwing me for a loop. :laugh: If you don't have a religious objection against it, then where do you derive your anti-porn stance from?

    It's all just based on personal thought, reflection, and my opinion of what should be common decency.
  • devil_in_a_blue_dress
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    Who the hell still looks at magazines is what I wanna know.

    The gays, apparently. :ohwell:
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
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    See, now you're throwing me for a loop. :laugh: If you don't have a religious objection against it, then where do you derive your anti-porn stance from?

    It's all just based on personal thought, reflection, and my opinion of what should be common decency.

    Which is incredibly vague. Morality is typically very concrete.
  • TheSlorax
    TheSlorax Posts: 2,401 Member
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    I am a little confused also. is this a feminist standpoint? just "morality" is a little odd of a reason, as I know a lot of very moral, respectful men who happen to watch porn.

    I hadn't considered a feminist viewpoint. Hmm. But ultimately does it matter if the woman is choosing to do it?

    My morality is strongly based in O'ism, so I have actual reasons for my moral stances.

    Oism the religion?


    I don't think porn is anti-feminist by default but that's a whole other discussion.
  • Airadet
    Airadet Posts: 31 Member
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    See, now you're throwing me for a loop. :laugh: If you don't have a religious objection against it, then where do you derive your anti-porn stance from?

    It's all just based on personal thought, reflection, and my opinion of what should be common decency.

    Which is incredibly vague. Morality is typically very concrete.

    It is what I believe, and as such it is part of what I define as my "morals" or "ethics". Just because I don't have a religion to refer to doesn't undermine my beliefs.
  • 5n0wbal1
    5n0wbal1 Posts: 429 Member
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    See, now you're throwing me for a loop. :laugh: If you don't have a religious objection against it, then where do you derive your anti-porn stance from?

    It's all just based on personal thought, reflection, and my opinion of what should be common decency.

    Which is incredibly vague. Morality is typically very concrete.

    I second this.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
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    Seriously peeps. Let the 19 year old learn on her own. Some people are just that way.

    Let's get back to the important things....and by important I mean fun, porn, and scantily clad people.
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
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    See, now you're throwing me for a loop. :laugh: If you don't have a religious objection against it, then where do you derive your anti-porn stance from?

    It's all just based on personal thought, reflection, and my opinion of what should be common decency.

    Which is incredibly vague. Morality is typically very concrete.

    It is what I believe, and as such it is part of what I define as my "morals" or "ethics". Just because I don't have a religion to refer to doesn't undermine my beliefs.

    My morality isn't rooted in a religion (I am an atheist), yet I can explain WHY certain things are immoral. Theft, for example, is immoral because you are using force against another person against their will. Invading is immoral while defending yourself is not immoral because one deals with the initiation of force and the other is responding to the initiation of force.
  • whierd
    whierd Posts: 14,025 Member
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    I am a little confused also. is this a feminist standpoint? just "morality" is a little odd of a reason, as I know a lot of very moral, respectful men who happen to watch porn.

    I hadn't considered a feminist viewpoint. Hmm. But ultimately does it matter if the woman is choosing to do it?

    My morality is strongly based in O'ism, so I have actual reasons for my moral stances.

    Oism the religion?


    I don't think porn is anti-feminist by default but that's a whole other discussion.

    The philosophy.
  • Lennonluv2
    Lennonluv2 Posts: 956 Member
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    Not sure why it would matter to your friend who looks at the magazine but it sounds like posing in the nude is not for him.

    And, I absolutely look at dirty magazines. I have no preference when it comes to porn.
  • Airadet
    Airadet Posts: 31 Member
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    My morality isn't rooted in a religion (I am an atheist), yet I can explain WHY certain things are immoral. Theft, for example, is immoral because you are using force against another person against their will. Invading is immoral while defending yourself is not immoral because one deals with the initiation of force and the other is responding to the initiation of force.

    Porn is morally unacceptable because it is a destructive behavior. Sex, as said before, is something that should be revered. Porn turns sex into a perverted form of personal pleasure in which the viewers seek to further their own pleasure. It reinforces the drive for one to serve only their immediate pleasures and urges. It often glorifies adultery and other such detestable acts and objectifies and exploits both men and women. That damages the viewer's mindset by perverting their perspective on the world, and often causes serious addiction issues requiring rehabilitation (science has proven it to be highly addictive, I don't feel like searching for the sources, you can do that yourself) because of a person's need to reach that sexual high.
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