Doctors Keep Telling Me I'm Overweight

shierrarobin

Hi, guys.

I've been on MFP for about a year and six months now. I have made some amazing progress. Last April, I weighed 200 lbs. Now, I'm between 152-160 depending on which scale I use. (I'm 5'8" with a large frame in case anyone wanted to know.) Well, every time I go to the Health Dept. to update my birth control, they always have to weigh me. When they do, they almost always tell me I'm overweight, even though I'm clearly not. I can fit into an extra small dress and small t-shirts, for Christ's sake. I try to explain to them that I've gained muscle, but they just scoff at me and tell me to eat less.

I only eat 1940 cals a day. I alternate my exercises every week between straight cardio and cardio with weights. The cardio I do is either Turbo Fire, Zumba, or Elliptical trainer. I use 8-10 lb dumbbells, and I can lift some pretty hefty weights on some of the machines. (Not sure the exact number. I just lift whatever is heavy enough to be challenging but not so heavy that it will cause me to hurt myself.)

I don't know what to do. I know I've made a lot of progress, and I want to feel good about it, but I can't if the doctors keep telling me I'm overweight. Should I just ignore them? It seems like I shouldn't since they're the ones with the master's degrees, but I don't know.

tdh1991

They use your bmi which could be higher if you are muscular. So if you more muscular and happy with where you are at I would ignore them.

Rayman79

You no longer look overweight to me (from what I could see in your profile pics). If you are fit, happy and healthy, then a number on the scale should mean very little. Unfortunately even the educated among us can still be somewhat ignorant when understanding body composition and that there is not always a direct correlation between health and weight (within certain tolerances of course).

If this is a real sticking point to you then you could ask the doctor for a physical to show you are healthy, or get a body composition test (eg DEXA scan or similar) to show what bf% you have.

mjkanaan

Even if they are using BMI, your height and 160 pounds calculates to 24.3, which is in the normal range, not overweight, so ask them how they are determining that you are overweight.

skadoosh33

I would listen to them. With you being 5'8" and 152-160, you are overweight still. And looking at your pic, you are a medium frame. Try measuring your wrists and ankles. You don't have a low body fat % and that would be the only reason you wouldn't be considered overweight with those stats. Keep up the good work.

staciva

Your bmi is probably The issue because it takes only your height and weight into account, not actual body mass (totally misleading, huh?) If you are feeling good, and you follow a healthy diet, don't listen to them! This is coming from a doctor by the way. Remember, some medical advice changes over time. Remember not too long ago, everyone was told to follow a low fat diet? Not anymore! And how about eggs? They were the scourge of the universe up until this past year.

Awesome job on the weight loss though! Keep your chin up and be proud of your accomplishments! You are the only person who can dictate your thoughts on yourself.

Yari5

Ignore them! Loosers!

marie_2454

Even at 160 your BMI is still in the normal range at 24.3, so regardless of your frame your BMI is considered "healthy." I'd ask why they think you're overweight and what they think you should weigh, then point out that you're not actually overweight for your height. Also, according to the BMI charts a "healthy" weight for someone 5'8 is between 125-164.

*I don't necessarily agree that BMI is a true indicator of whether a person is healthy or not, but I believe this is what most doctors use...right?

shierrarobin

I would listen to them. With you being 5'8" and 152-160, you are overweight still. And looking at your pic, you are a medium frame. Try measuring your wrists and ankles. You don't have a low body fat % and that would be the only reason you wouldn't be considered overweight with those stats. Keep up the good work.

I have itty bitty tiny wrists and ankles, so I don't know how much that measurement would help. :laugh:

Achrya

I would listen to them. With you being 5'8" and 152-160, you are overweight still. And looking at your pic, you are a medium frame. Try measuring your wrists and ankles. You don't have a low body fat % and that would be the only reason you wouldn't be considered overweight with those stats. Keep up the good work.

Her bmi isn't in the overweight range though? So how are you determining that she's overweight?

Edit: Actually OP I looked at your photos and, as I'm always willing to admit when I'm wrong, I'm inclined to agree that you might have a body fat % of the higher end of things, which is probably what your doctor is talking about.

michellekicks

I would listen to them. With you being 5'8" and 152-160, you are overweight still. And looking at your pic, you are a medium frame. Try measuring your wrists and ankles. You don't have a low body fat % and that would be the only reason you wouldn't be considered overweight with those stats. Keep up the good work.

I have itty bitty tiny wrists and ankles, so I don't know how much that measurement would help. :laugh:

That is generally how frame size is determined. If you have tiny wrists and ankles, it is unlikely that you're large framed. From the tiny pic of you I can see in your profile, I would say it's possible that you have a higher body fat percent even with a healthy BMI calculation.

But if you're happy where you are, there's no need to change anything.

skadoosh33

I would listen to them. With you being 5'8" and 152-160, you are overweight still. And looking at your pic, you are a medium frame. Try measuring your wrists and ankles. You don't have a low body fat % and that would be the only reason you wouldn't be considered overweight with those stats. Keep up the good work.

I have itty bitty tiny wrists and ankles, so I don't know how much that measurement would help. :laugh:

Well that's a good measurement to find out what frame size you are.

ldrosophila

Even if they are using BMI, your height and 160 pounds calculates to 24.3, which is in the normal range, not overweight, so ask them how they are determining that you are overweight.

this ask them how they came to that conclusion and if they say BMI ask them to show you the math. BTW very few health professionals know the math for BMI.

donjessop

BMI wise you are in the range for "normal" but the most important measure is yourself: do you feel happy? If you do, that's what matters. I have never liked BMI measurements as a scale of whether or not someone is overweight as there are too many other factors involved.

skadoosh33

I would listen to them. With you being 5'8" and 152-160, you are overweight still. And looking at your pic, you are a medium frame. Try measuring your wrists and ankles. You don't have a low body fat % and that would be the only reason you wouldn't be considered overweight with those stats. Keep up the good work.

Her bmi isn't in the overweight range though? So how are you determining that she's overweight?

Body composition. She is medium or even small frame according to her tiny wrists. Ideal weight for 5'8" is 140 with good body fat %. She has a little higher body fat % and 12-20 extra pounds. So that is slightly overweight. BMI is not a good test if you are looking to be fit.

laele75

I would listen to them. With you being 5'8" and 152-160, you are overweight still. And looking at your pic, you are a medium frame. Try measuring your wrists and ankles. You don't have a low body fat % and that would be the only reason you wouldn't be considered overweight with those stats. Keep up the good work.

I have itty bitty tiny wrists and ankles, so I don't know how much that measurement would help. :laugh:

I have itty bitty wrists, thick ankles and shoulders like a defensive lineman. Explain what kind of frame I have then.

shierrarobin

I would listen to them. With you being 5'8" and 152-160, you are overweight still. And looking at your pic, you are a medium frame. Try measuring your wrists and ankles. You don't have a low body fat % and that would be the only reason you wouldn't be considered overweight with those stats. Keep up the good work.

I have itty bitty tiny wrists and ankles, so I don't know how much that measurement would help. :laugh:

That is generally how frame size is determined. If you have tiny wrists and ankles, it is unlikely that you're large framed. From the tiny pic of you I can see in your profile, I would say it's possible that you have a higher body fat percent even with a healthy BMI calculation.

But if you're happy where you are, there's no need to change anything.

See, that's what makes my frame confusing. I have tiny wrists and tiny ankles, but right now, my hip bones are almost poking out because they're so wide. People also tell me I have broad shoulders, but I think they might be exaggerating a bit.

Achrya

I would listen to them. With you being 5'8" and 152-160, you are overweight still. And looking at your pic, you are a medium frame. Try measuring your wrists and ankles. You don't have a low body fat % and that would be the only reason you wouldn't be considered overweight with those stats. Keep up the good work.

Her bmi isn't in the overweight range though? So how are you determining that she's overweight?

Body composition. She is medium or even small frame according to her tiny wrists. Ideal weight for 5'8" is 140 with good body fat %. She has a little higher body fat % and 12-20 extra pounds. So that is slightly overweight. BMI is not a good test if you are looking to be fit.

I already edited to say I was wrong.

DopeItUp

I would listen to them. With you being 5'8" and 152-160, you are overweight still. And looking at your pic, you are a medium frame. Try measuring your wrists and ankles. You don't have a low body fat % and that would be the only reason you wouldn't be considered overweight with those stats. Keep up the good work.

I have itty bitty tiny wrists and ankles, so I don't know how much that measurement would help. :laugh:

I have itty bitty wrists, thick ankles and shoulders like a defensive lineman. Explain what kind of frame I have then.

When you have a large amount of weight to lose, you are going to be big almost everywhere. However, your wrists don't carry a whole lot of fat so that's why they are generally used as a rough guideline. Of course, your wrists will lose size too, mine went from 8" to 7" after losing over 90lbs. It's just not as dramatic as elsewhere.

So long story short, if you've got small wrists you've probably got a small bone structure underneath. It reminds me of this:



Don't fall for that trap, I fell for it too.

Anyway, all that aside, get your body fat percentage tested and use that. That's probably the best marker versus frame size, bmi, scale weight, etc..

shierrarobin

Also, I should probably mention that that is an old pic on my profile. My upper arms and thighs are a lot smaller now.

OsricTheKnight

I personally think you can't listen to the message board or your doctors, nor can you follow your own opinion.

I'd get a real body composition analysis done. It can guide you to the true answer, done professionally, is not that expensive (it's your health and life that's at stake, after all!) and will tell you the final real truth of the matter.

In my area, a quick search for "bodpod" finds plenty of faciltiies that'll do this analysis for $50 canadian. I'd look for bodpod first because it's accurate and not super annoying. If you can't find a bodpod, the next option is an immersion tank, but that might be harder to find.

I personally use a body fat scale to tell me what's what but that's because I know I'm overweight and I can live with the results if they're wrong by a few percent. When approaching truly healthy, I think a more accurate measure is needed.

As an added bonus, you'll wind up with a doctor telling you the right answer if you go this route!

Osric

karlalband

I am also 5'8" and my goal weight is 160 lbs. Today is my "1 year Anniversary" that I have been with MFP. I have lost 52 lbs but have been stuck fighting 3 lbs for 3 months (my fault). But to the OP just go along with what they say and take your birth control and run. Grin through your teeth. BTW remind them that BC causes weight gain and thank them for their advise. Just keep working at it :flowerforyou:

shierrarobin

I personally think you can't listen to the message board or your doctors, nor can you follow your own opinion.

I'd get a real body composition analysis done. It can guide you to the true answer, done professionally, is not that expensive (it's your health and life that's at stake, after all!) and will tell you the final real truth of the matter.

In my area, a quick search for "bodpod" finds plenty of faciltiies that'll do this analysis for $50 canadian. I'd look for bodpod first because it's accurate and not super annoying. If you can't find a bodpod, the next option is an immersion tank, but that might be harder to find.

I personally use a body fat scale to tell me what's what but that's because I know I'm overweight and I can live with the results if they're wrong by a few percent. When approaching truly healthy, I think a more accurate measure is needed.

As an added bonus, you'll wind up with a doctor telling you the right answer if you go this route!

Osric

Just to clarify: What is an immersion tank?

*Edit: I'd just google it, but google has lied to me in the past, so I want to be sure.

dumparump

Change doctors.

OsricTheKnight

Just to clarify: What is an immersion tank?

http://sportsmedicine.about.com/od/fitnessevalandassessment/g/UnderwaterWeigh.htm

Again, a bodpod would be a lot more convenient and probably easier to find. http://www.bodpod.com/en/products/body-composition/adult-children-bod-pod-gs/bod-pod

Osric

JakiDee

Change doctors.

Best answer!

JSkorna

Change doctors.

And then keep changing doctors until one tells you what you want to hear.

What crap advice.

Achrya

Change doctors.

For what?

wiscck

I would listen to them. With you being 5'8" and 152-160, you are overweight still. And looking at your pic, you are a medium frame. Try measuring your wrists and ankles. You don't have a low body fat % and that would be the only reason you wouldn't be considered overweight with those stats. Keep up the good work.

Her bmi isn't in the overweight range though? So how are you determining that she's overweight?

Body composition. She is medium or even small frame according to her tiny wrists. Ideal weight for 5'8" is 140 with good body fat %. She has a little higher body fat % and 12-20 extra pounds. So that is slightly overweight. BMI is not a good test if you are looking to be fit.

Where are you getting 140 as the ideal weight? Is it that ridiculous outdated 100 lbs plus 5 lbs for every inch over 5 feet you are? Because that's even less accurate than BMI.

artsycella

I'm also 5'8" (okay, okay, 5'7.75") and I weighed 160 for years. At that weight, I wore a 14 and a L in most clothing. I was fairly fit, exercised frequently, but was not particularly muscular.

My current goal is to be about 155-160 with ~25% body fat. If you're wearing a s/xs at that weight, it's hard for me to imagine that you have a really high body fat %. As others have mentioned, you might try to figure it out yourself through bodpod/dexa or even calipers (and be wary of taking advice as gospel from strangers on the internet instead of real professionals), but my knee jerk reaction is that you can't be too overweight if all those facts are accurate.

skadoosh33

I would listen to them. With you being 5'8" and 152-160, you are overweight still. And looking at your pic, you are a medium frame. Try measuring your wrists and ankles. You don't have a low body fat % and that would be the only reason you wouldn't be considered overweight with those stats. Keep up the good work.

Her bmi isn't in the overweight range though? So how are you determining that she's overweight?

Body composition. She is medium or even small frame according to her tiny wrists. Ideal weight for 5'8" is 140 with good body fat %. She has a little higher body fat % and 12-20 extra pounds. So that is slightly overweight. BMI is not a good test if you are looking to be fit.

Where are you getting 140 as the ideal weight? Is it that ridiculous outdated 100 lbs plus 5 lbs for every inch over 5 feet you are? Because that's even less accurate than BMI.

Why do you think that is ridiculous and outdated? Is it because over 60% of Americans are overweight or obese and you think we should up the ideal for you?