List of retailers/companies that do NOT vanity size...
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Just rip the tags out if the number bothers you. I have clothes right now that range from a Misses size 2 to a Juniors 11. No one is telling me my tags look good.0 -
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Just rip the tags out if the number bothers you. I have clothes right now that range from a Misses size 2 to a Juniors 11. No one is telling me my tags look good.
Logic.0 -
I was shocked recently to need a size 10 when I finally had to break down and buy a pair of shorts to get through the end of summer. (I flashed my undies one too many times carrying groceries to the car when my shorts slipped. LOL) I know that I'm nowhere near a size 10 at this point.
A few days after that, we were going through 15 years of accumulated clothing in the attic in the hopes of finding the box of clothes I wore a few years ago and I ran across size 10 shorts and jeans in the oldest boxes. They are tiny compared to the ones I just bought! If I remember correctly, it will take another 20-25 pound loss to wear them. That's a huge difference!
Are the smaller size tags supposed to make people buy more clothing? What other reason could the clothing industry have for such drastic changes to sizing?
Someone mentioned Old Navy. Are they not true to size or at least closer? I always found their clothes to be smaller than items from other places, but I've only bought a couple of things there in the past 6-7 years.0 -
I have lived a long time..............most of it obese until recently. The fact is, as has been stated here, size 12 now is not the same as size 12, 30 years ago. More like a size 8 or 6. I have the proof in the clothes I have from back then, and the 6's and 8's I am buying and wearing now. People have gotten bigger, and sizing has gotten smaller. If stores sell clothes that are not "vanity sizing", I have not come across them in the past year of buying increasingly smaller sizes.
It is what it is. The important thing is how we feel about our new selves and if we are happy with how we look.0 -
Indeed. For me it's not about whether or not a store vanity sizes, it's about the fact that I can't just go onto any retailer website/ebay/in store rack and pull off "my size" without trying it on. I inevitably have to drag 3 pairs of pants into the dressing room because I don't know if the clothing line runs smallish, mediumish, or largeish. There's such a disparity from one retailer to another that if it wasn't tremendously frustrating it would be laughable. Really, I haven't figured out why they put sizes on anything, at this rate they might as well just throw them haphazardly on a rack and label each one "size: happy hunting."
This is so my experience right now, even for jeans that are supposedly sized in inches! Sometimes I can fit into the size I wore in high school, although I am still a good 40 pounds heavier now than I was then. Makes no sense.
Here's a website that might be helpful for the smaller women who aren't able to find anything small enough in the regular stores (and have money to spend on clothes, these aren't cheap): http://www.iamelfin.co.uk .0 -
For those who understood the point of the thread, and sympathize with the frustration, I thank you.
Does anybody have any experience with the more high end stories, like Prada or D&G?
I know that H&M actually is pretty true to size, but I've never shopped there before and not sure if I want to. Anyone with any experience?
Also some other countries do have standardized sizing, unlike the US, so for those who are looking to do online shopping (such as myself) keep in mind that you absolutely can research which countries manufacture according to real standards and try and shop from there.
I don't know about the men's lines, but I shop at H & M a lot, and my size is all over the place depending on the item. In higher-end brands, I think that Acne and Rag & Bone are pretty true to size. I would feel okay about ordering something from either of those without trying it on. Also, on Net-a-Porter, they show measurements of individual items, so that's helpful.0 -
I haven't seen many discussions of this in MFP, so perhaps we'll get some interesting replies. Thanks OP for posting this. And good luck shopping.
You're welcome! Hopefully this thread will keep going, and going.
I don't know about the men's lines, but I shop at H & M a lot, and my size is all over the place depending on the item. In higher-end brands, I think that Acne and Rag & Bone are pretty true to size. I would feel okay about ordering something from either of those without trying it on. Also, on Net-a-Porter, they show measurements of individual items, so that's helpful.
Very helpful! Thanks a lot.0 -
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Just rip the tags out if the number bothers you. I have clothes right now that range from a Misses size 2 to a Juniors 11. No one is telling me my tags look good.
And perhaps you enjoy the experience of shopping, and don't mind spending copious hours all over the place, trying on clothes, looking through 5 different sizes to get a perfect fit.
I'd prefer to step in and step out as quickly as possible, with as honest sizing as possible so I can move on. I don't enjoy spending hours of my day trying on clothes. I'm also an avid online shopper and vanity sizing makes that a nightmare. It's a huge help to be able to narrow down some retailers that don't do massive size inflation for regular online consumers like me.
So you just "ripping off the tags" has little to do with the point of this thread. It's not some whinefest about feeling fat in a size too large. It's a simple attempt to get a potential list going for those who are likewise frustrated with their shopping experience and might like a little guidance.0 -
I resently had to buy new clothes because all my pants were way to big. Some 20s and some 18s, one brand, I needed a 16. Also needed new shirts because most of the ones I had did not fit correctly. The down side of the pants are that the jeans in the boys dept have smaller pocket, and apparently all boy that wear 18s or 20s are six feet tall. The shorts all went below my knees. Athletic cut shirts vary from brand to brand. Most were two big in the waist although all the shirts showed the same measurements.
I spent one Saturday hemming jeans and shorts.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I surely won't complain about the fact that I have to find smaller clothes. I have some cashmere sweaters I had almost given up on. 41 athletic cut coat and 28 or 29X30 pants at 47. Sounds good to me.0 -
A 23-24 inch waist is a size 0
A 24-25 inch waist is a size 2
A 25-26 inch waist is a size 40 -
Well it sure as heck isn't Old Navy. Thats all i can add to the topic LOL.
You got that right! I'm wearing size 0 Old Navy jeans right now. I'm probably closer to a 6 in "real" sizes.0 -
I didn't know about vanity sizing until this summer. I didn't think by my clothes I was that fat. I was wearing size 38 jeans tight. I measured my waist at over 40 inches (2 inches below navel where I was really fat). After some weight loss now, I'm wearing Levi's 569 36" waist. They fall off and my waist is 38" now. I'm wearing some older 560 Levi's today that are 36" waist a little loose with that 38" waist. So for these style of jeans, I hope to eventually be in 34" waist or by a tighter style in 36". I hope to have a real 36" waist one day again.
I have some old Levi's that I wore in college that are ragged out. I don't think I'll ever wear them again but saved them for the memories. They appear to be mostly for a real 34 inch waist.
The link below provides name brands and how big their waist really is
http://www.artofmanliness.com/trunk/462/your-pants-are-lying-to-you/
I still think you are going to have to try on a few styles in the store, then after that you can use amazon or another online retailer.0 -
Huh.
Funny. I thought men were all for deceit when it comes to size..0 -
As I go down in size, I'm going to start carrying a measuring tape in my purse.
I'll use it as I check out things from the racks.
For online shopping, I'll be sure to measure myself, and then
check out the sizing charts before I make my order.
THIS is exactly what I do. I've been dropping size but not really weight, so I'm not really sure where I'll end up.
I started shopping for jeans at a thrift store nearby and couldn't estimate what size I wore. Jeans looked ridiculously small and I had just bought a pair of guess jeans, size 8 that fit really well. I measured across the hips at the widest point and found that jeans btw 19.5 and 20" across fit me very well.
I keep a teeny key chain measuring tape in my bag & measure as I go. Works like a charm!....and I never have to try on a thing!!!0 -
If you like Levi's they have an online fit guide
http://us.levi.com/shop/index.jsp?categoryId=124020080 -
For men, Brooks Brothers are exact on size. They also keep in their computers the size that you bought, not just for the tailor made but even the ready made pants and shirts, and the size has always been standard. Shirts like Ralph Lauren or the polo depends on the style fit and where they were made. those made in China run larger, the Hong Kong and those from Vietnam or some other Asian country, they are more true to size. Basically, most shirt companies in dept stores that sell shirts by collar and sleeve length size, they are pretty accurate. Go somewhere like Lord and Taylor or Bloomingdales and have them measure you in the men's dept so you will know arm length and collar.0
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Levi's are true to size I believe. I know I barely fit in a size 12 of those, when I'm typically in 8s otherwise.
I totally see your point frankly. I look at the size chart every time and I still have to guess what I would fit in. I would not order pants or jeans online unless it's a brand I know. I really don't see the point of vanity sizing (plus coming from France it was all totally different anyway, so it's even more confusing).0 -
Well it sure as heck isn't Old Navy. Thats all i can add to the topic LOL.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
They are truly the worst!!0 -
A 23-24 inch waist is a size 0
A 24-25 inch waist is a size 2
A 25-26 inch waist is a size 4
Yes, if stores actually followed this it would be awesome. However, I have a 27-28 inch waist (depending on the day LOL) and I wear 2's and 4's and the occasional 6.. There are 2 stores at which I can wear a 0 because of their sizing!!! So that's the issue, even when the websites say that size fits that waist, it isnt always true! (one brand I buy a lot says their size 4's fit 24-25 inch waist, and I was wearing them at a 30 inch waist...)0
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