Artificial sweeteners?
wallacehk
Posts: 29
Yay or nay?
And if not, why not?
Wanting to know a little more, so if someone has facts for me- or can point me in the direction of some- that would be helpful.
Thanks
And if not, why not?
Wanting to know a little more, so if someone has facts for me- or can point me in the direction of some- that would be helpful.
Thanks
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I use them all the time. Haven't killed me yet . .0
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I'm a type 1 diabetic so I use sweeteners in my coffee and I drink Diet soda. I'm also a Dietitian. Most of the research that had come out in the past about linking sweeteners to cancer are not viable for the general population. The amount of the straight chemicals from the sweeteners into itty bitty mice/rats are pretty close to unobtainable in a normal persons diet.
The type of sweetener is a person preference. For more natural option look at Truvia (green) or even buying a Stevia plant, Splenda (yellow) which is just the flip of the glucose molecule so it does not get digested. I prefer Equal (blue) myself. then you also have sweet n low (pink)
This is some information on Aspartame that is commonly mistaken.
1)Reports of the ingestion of aspartame in patients who later have suffered MS or systemic Lupus is not scientifically sustainable evidence that aspartame is responsible for the occurrence of the disease. Both of these disorders are subject to spontaneous remissions and exacerbations so it’s entirely possible that when a patient stopped using aspartame they might have also coincidentally have had remission of their symptoms.
2) The claim that aspartame ingestions results in the production of methanol, formaldehyde and formate are factual. In the Intestinal tract aspartame is hydrolyzed to one of its component materials, methanol, as well as the 2 amino acids phenylalanine and aspartic acid. This methanol is taken up by the cells of the body and metabolized first to formaldehyde the to formate. They key information missing is that the levels of ingestion are very modest. In fact, there are other foodstuffs that we ingest that supply as much and sometimes more methanol—citrus fruits & juices, tomatoes, or tomato juice. There are even higher quantities of methanol ingested when ethanol (alcohol) is consumed.
3) The claim that phenylalanine and aspartic acid have neurotoxin effects is true in certain individuals in high enough doses. The only sub-population of individuals potentially susceptible to adverse effects from phenylalanine is homozygous phenylketonuric and in this case food itself with much higher levels of phenylalanine from the protein in our diets contributes much higher toxicity for these unfortunate individuals. The USFDA requires that the aspartame product be labeled specially for phenylketonuric patients so that they will be aware of the presence in the product. As for Aspartic Acid-the amount ingested from aspartame are many fold less than those levels responsible for causing adverse effects on the brain of animals or man.
4) There have been numerous studies done on both animals and humans for the link of aspartame and seizures. In studies done with those adults & children with pre-existing seizures, there was no evidence of contributing to the frequency of occurrence or severity of seizures.
5) There was no evidence among the comprehensive studies that aspartame-mediated effects on the experimental animals at doses many times higher than those to which the human population is exposed.
6) The claim that aspartame can increase the incidence of brain tumors in the human population has been thoroughly refuted by both government and academic scientists.0 -
It's fine. It's the most heavily researched food additive, ever.
Aspartame:
http://andevidencelibrary.com/topic.cfm?cat=4089
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Thank you!
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My personal experience: aspartame use leads to debilitating migraines in me. Half a can of aspartame sweetened diet soda is all it takes. Therefore, I do not use aspartame. I have not had reactions to small amounts of sucralose or saccharine. The powdered form of stevia also seems to be okay.
Other than aspartame, I choose not to use the others because I don't like the taste. I'd rather drink my coffee and tea unsweetened. I eat my yogurt plain with a little fruit. I don't typically drink soda. If I choose to indulge, I prefer to eat the same stuff my great-grandmother would have eaten.0 -
I use Splenda Essentials with Fiber in my coffee to cut down on the amount of creamer I put in. I love it. 0
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only time i have artificial sweeteners is with my Coffee Mate Sugar Free French Vanilla liquid coffee creamer with my morning coffee every day. i buy the "sugar free" just to save on calories. i make my coffee super rich, seriously, it's almost like mud, so i use more creamer than the "1 tbs" serving size. i usually use 5 tbs in my morning mug of joe.
i also have the *occasional* diet soda. occasional being maybe 1 per week. again, just to save calories.
i haven't died. yet.0 -
Not for me. Rather use less of the real stuff.0
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I like it generally, just need a lot less than regular sugar otherwise the taste can be too much!0
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Not for me. Rather use less of the real stuff.
me too0 -
They will all cause horrible neurological problems with long term use.
I use splenda a lot and drink aspartame when the mood hits me :bigsmile:0 -
I've used all different types with no ill effects0
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Not for me. Rather use less of the real stuff.
This is me all day.0 -
My husband made me stop eating or drinking stuff with aspartame and sucralose. He saw one of his clients that happens to be a doctor and they were just chit chatting. The topic of artificial sweeteners came up and I guess the doctor told him that a majority of his patients that have cancer or major health issues drink diet soda. It seems to be super common theme. He cant say that is what has caused the problems but it is something that when he asks, almost all of them do.
It makes you wonder.
My husband came home and threw out my crystal light (I hardly ever drink soda) LOL! He told me that he wants me around for a long time and its not worth it to save a few calories.
Just a side note. Sucralose is treated with chlorine...Yup, that's what your eating and probably why it tastes so bad...0 -
I'm in favor, but only because I have horrid teeth from a bad combo of genetics and heavy antibiotics as a kid. So, sugar = pain. If I didn't have to do otherwise, I'd go for the real stuff.0
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I used to use them all the time... now i just use the real stuff... just less of it. My mom & everyone else kept telling me how bad they are...0
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I'm in favor, but only because I have horrid teeth from a bad combo of genetics and heavy antibiotics as a kid. So, sugar = pain. If I didn't have to do otherwise, I'd go for the real stuff.
I have the same problem!
I'm only having artificial sweetener once a day, in my protein shake. I've never been a fizzy drinker luckily0 -
Oh no. Chlorine. You know what else contains chlorine? Salt. Sodium chloride. Unfortunately that's essential.
Damn, I wouldn't want to be your client. A dietitian that endorses "food like products" that are treated with chlorine instead of real food. I am shocked.
I'm sorry but I believe the more we introduce these products, the sicker people get. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that.
You are spreading untruths.0 -
I'm a type 1 diabetic so I use sweeteners in my coffee and I drink Diet soda. I'm also a Dietitian. Most of the research that had come out in the past about linking sweeteners to cancer are not viable for the general population. The amount of the straight chemicals from the sweeteners into itty bitty mice/rats are pretty close to unobtainable in a normal persons diet.
The type of sweetener is a person preference. For more natural option look at Truvia (green) or even buying a Stevia plant, Splenda (yellow) which is just the flip of the glucose molecule so it does not get digested. I prefer Equal (blue) myself. then you also have sweet n low (pink)
This is some information on Aspartame that is commonly mistaken.
1)Reports of the ingestion of aspartame in patients who later have suffered MS or systemic Lupus is not scientifically sustainable evidence that aspartame is responsible for the occurrence of the disease. Both of these disorders are subject to spontaneous remissions and exacerbations so it’s entirely possible that when a patient stopped using aspartame they might have also coincidentally have had remission of their symptoms.
2) The claim that aspartame ingestions results in the production of methanol, formaldehyde and formate are factual. In the Intestinal tract aspartame is hydrolyzed to one of its component materials, methanol, as well as the 2 amino acids phenylalanine and aspartic acid. This methanol is taken up by the cells of the body and metabolized first to formaldehyde the to formate. They key information missing is that the levels of ingestion are very modest. In fact, there are other foodstuffs that we ingest that supply as much and sometimes more methanol—citrus fruits & juices, tomatoes, or tomato juice. There are even higher quantities of methanol ingested when ethanol (alcohol) is consumed.
3) The claim that phenylalanine and aspartic acid have neurotoxin effects is true in certain individuals in high enough doses. The only sub-population of individuals potentially susceptible to adverse effects from phenylalanine is homozygous phenylketonuric and in this case food itself with much higher levels of phenylalanine from the protein in our diets contributes much higher toxicity for these unfortunate individuals. The USFDA requires that the aspartame product be labeled specially for phenylketonuric patients so that they will be aware of the presence in the product. As for Aspartic Acid-the amount ingested from aspartame are many fold less than those levels responsible for causing adverse effects on the brain of animals or man.
4) There have been numerous studies done on both animals and humans for the link of aspartame and seizures. In studies done with those adults & children with pre-existing seizures, there was no evidence of contributing to the frequency of occurrence or severity of seizures.
5) There was no evidence among the comprehensive studies that aspartame-mediated effects on the experimental animals at doses many times higher than those to which the human population is exposed.
6) The claim that aspartame can increase the incidence of brain tumors in the human population has been thoroughly refuted by both government and academic scientists.
Damn, I wouldn't want to be your client. A dietitian that endorses "food like products" that are treated with chlorine instead of real food. I am shocked.
I'm sorry but I believe the more we introduce these products, the sicker people get. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that.
I would be her client in a heartbeat. She's smart enough to understand that correlation does not imply causation, knows how to read actual studies (not just one doctor's anecdotal data), and isn't swayed by alarmism.0 -
My husband made me stop eating or drinking stuff with aspartame and sucralose. He saw one of his clients that happens to be a doctor and they were just chit chatting. The topic of artificial sweeteners came up and I guess the doctor told him that a majority of his patients that have cancer or major health issues drink diet soda. It seems to be super common theme. He cant say that is what has caused the problems but it is something that when he asks, almost all of them do.
It makes you wonder.
My husband came home and threw out my crystal light (I hardly ever drink soda) LOL! He told me that he wants me around for a long time and its not worth it to save a few calories.
Just a side note. Sucralose is treated with chlorine...Yup, that's what your eating and probably why it tastes so bad...
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My husband made me stop eating or drinking stuff with aspartame and sucralose. He saw one of his clients that happens to be a doctor and they were just chit chatting. The topic of artificial sweeteners came up and I guess the doctor told him that a majority of his patients that have cancer or major health issues drink diet soda. It seems to be super common theme. He cant say that is what has caused the problems but it is something that when he asks, almost all of them do.
It makes you wonder.
My husband came home and threw out my crystal light (I hardly ever drink soda) LOL! He told me that he wants me around for a long time and its not worth it to save a few calories.
Just a side note. Sucralose is treated with chlorine...Yup, that's what your eating and probably why it tastes so bad...
maybe your husband should be the one debating this0 -
i use them for the purpose of just reducing my calorie intake. i only sweeten my oatmeal and drink diet sodas so i'm not intaking large quantities either way but i believe people freak out over it too much lol meanwhile they're probably eating foods that contain an ingredient list composed of pure chemicals/stuff that is "bad" for you.0
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My husband made me stop eating or drinking stuff with aspartame and sucralose. He saw one of his clients that happens to be a doctor and they were just chit chatting. The topic of artificial sweeteners came up and I guess the doctor told him that a majority of his patients that have cancer or major health issues drink diet soda. It seems to be super common theme. He cant say that is what has caused the problems but it is something that when he asks, almost all of them do.
It makes you wonder.
My husband came home and threw out my crystal light (I hardly ever drink soda) LOL! He told me that he wants me around for a long time and its not worth it to save a few calories.
Just a side note. Sucralose is treated with chlorine...Yup, that's what your eating and probably why it tastes so bad...
1) It's on a graph so it must be legit! It's like how I now eat more ice ceam/gelato than ever before and am losing weight: Clearly Ice Cream is a Magical weight loss product.
A. If my husband touches my little sugar/flavoring packets he gets put in the hallway. There aren't many rules but "Don't touch my diet Soda/Splenda/Ocean Spray packets!" is one of them.0 -
My shoprite has some.Yay or nay?
And if not, why not?
Wanting to know a little more, so if someone has facts for me- or can point me in the direction of some- that would be helpful.
Thanks0 -
Nay for me, but only because they trigger me to overeat. I have no opinion on other people's use of them. If they help/don't hinder people in reaching their goals, I say go for it. Doesn't work for me, but it works for lots of people.0
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My shoprite has some.Yay or nay?
And if not, why not?
Wanting to know a little more, so if someone has facts for me- or can point me in the direction of some- that would be helpful.
Thanks
Such wit. I'm in New Zealand, so no help to me.0 -
this is just so much NOMy husband made me stop eating or drinking stuff with aspartame and sucralose. He saw one of his clients that happens to be a doctor and they were just chit chatting. The topic of artificial sweeteners came up and I guess the doctor told him that a majority of his patients that have cancer or major health issues drink diet soda. It seems to be super common theme. He cant say that is what has caused the problems but it is something that when he asks, almost all of them do.
It makes you wonder.
My husband came home and threw out my crystal light (I hardly ever drink soda) LOL! He told me that he wants me around for a long time and its not worth it to save a few calories.
Just a side note. Sucralose is treated with chlorine...Yup, that's what your eating and probably why it tastes so bad...0 -
:laugh: :laugh: :flowerforyou:
My shoprite has some.Yay or nay?
And if not, why not?
Wanting to know a little more, so if someone has facts for me- or can point me in the direction of some- that would be helpful.
Thanks
Such wit. I'm in New Zealand, so no help to me.0 -
I'm a type 1 diabetic so I use sweeteners in my coffee and I drink Diet soda. I'm also a Dietitian. Most of the research that had come out in the past about linking sweeteners to cancer are not viable for the general population. The amount of the straight chemicals from the sweeteners into itty bitty mice/rats are pretty close to unobtainable in a normal persons diet.
The type of sweetener is a person preference. For more natural option look at Truvia (green) or even buying a Stevia plant, Splenda (yellow) which is just the flip of the glucose molecule so it does not get digested. I prefer Equal (blue) myself. then you also have sweet n low (pink)
This is some information on Aspartame that is commonly mistaken.
1)Reports of the ingestion of aspartame in patients who later have suffered MS or systemic Lupus is not scientifically sustainable evidence that aspartame is responsible for the occurrence of the disease. Both of these disorders are subject to spontaneous remissions and exacerbations so it’s entirely possible that when a patient stopped using aspartame they might have also coincidentally have had remission of their symptoms.
2) The claim that aspartame ingestions results in the production of methanol, formaldehyde and formate are factual. In the Intestinal tract aspartame is hydrolyzed to one of its component materials, methanol, as well as the 2 amino acids phenylalanine and aspartic acid. This methanol is taken up by the cells of the body and metabolized first to formaldehyde the to formate. They key information missing is that the levels of ingestion are very modest. In fact, there are other foodstuffs that we ingest that supply as much and sometimes more methanol—citrus fruits & juices, tomatoes, or tomato juice. There are even higher quantities of methanol ingested when ethanol (alcohol) is consumed.
3) The claim that phenylalanine and aspartic acid have neurotoxin effects is true in certain individuals in high enough doses. The only sub-population of individuals potentially susceptible to adverse effects from phenylalanine is homozygous phenylketonuric and in this case food itself with much higher levels of phenylalanine from the protein in our diets contributes much higher toxicity for these unfortunate individuals. The USFDA requires that the aspartame product be labeled specially for phenylketonuric patients so that they will be aware of the presence in the product. As for Aspartic Acid-the amount ingested from aspartame are many fold less than those levels responsible for causing adverse effects on the brain of animals or man.
4) There have been numerous studies done on both animals and humans for the link of aspartame and seizures. In studies done with those adults & children with pre-existing seizures, there was no evidence of contributing to the frequency of occurrence or severity of seizures.
5) There was no evidence among the comprehensive studies that aspartame-mediated effects on the experimental animals at doses many times higher than those to which the human population is exposed.
6) The claim that aspartame can increase the incidence of brain tumors in the human population has been thoroughly refuted by both government and academic scientists.
Damn, I wouldn't want to be your client. A dietitian that endorses "food like products" that are treated with chlorine instead of real food. I am shocked.
I'm sorry but I believe the more we introduce these products, the sicker people get. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that.
I believe you're wrong and know nothing of the subject. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to see that.0 -
I'm going to avoid the battle between the two sides and just give my own personal experience with the stuff. I drank diet sodas and generally enjoyed all manner of artificial sweeteners for at least 10 years, but starting in 2012 I started having terrible reactions to it. First started with just regular gas -embarrassing, but manageable. Then it got worse and became extreme intestinal discomfort involving cramps that would last for days as well as headaches, and general misery. I now avoid anything with artificial sweeteners including stevia because its just not worth the pain.0
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