Too much sugar in grapes?

rosestring

Hello,

I apparently went over my sugar limit just by having two cups of grapes. Or, at least, according to MFP.

Does this sound right? I don't want to go over so much. Are grapes actually kind of a "bad" fruit? I'm trying to get back on track for losing weight.

sillyli234

It really depends on your dietary needs. For me, I have a family medical history of type 2 diabetes and hypothyroidism so I have to keep my fruit at 1 serving per day which makes grapes a terrible choice for me. Do you have any sugar issues? I'd suggest lowering the grape serving rather than getting rid of them all together.

melaniecheeks

The sugar target on MFP is really low, and eating any fruit at all will put you over it.

benol1

Hello,

I apparently went over my sugar limit just by having two cups of grapes. Or, at least, according to MFP.

Does this sound right? I don't want to go over so much. Are grapes actually kind of a "bad" fruit? I'm trying to get back on track for losing weight.

Unless you are diabetic - don't worry about it.
The sugar in whole fruit is metabolised differently than added sugar.
kind regards,

Ben

EvgeniZyntx

Unless you have a specific medical reason to avoid fruit there is no reason to do so.
For weightloss you can ignore the sugar settings on MFP and just focus on meeting your macros - fat and protein. Sugar is just a carb.

Grapes are pretty awesome in terms of micronutrients and are a low GI fruit, so even for diabetics they are a reasonable choice.


Oh ....http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice&dbid=40

yarwell

Grapes have a lot more sugar than many fruits (15 vs 10% in an apple) only topped by bananas at 20%. The sugars are about 50/50 glucose and fructose with GI values ranging between 43-53.

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/1017237-so-what-s-with-this-sugar-then-faq covers the topic in general.

neanderthin

Hello,

I apparently went over my sugar limit just by having two cups of grapes. Or, at least, according to MFP.

Does this sound right? I don't want to go over so much. Are grapes actually kind of a "bad" fruit? I'm trying to get back on track for losing weight.

Unless you are diabetic - don't worry about it.
The sugar in whole fruit is metabolised differently than added sugar.
kind regards,

Ben

So, if I sprinkle sugar on strawberries how are the sugars metabolized differently.......you can be scientific if you want.......people need to know of this medical breakthrough.

Cherimoose

Unless you are diabetic - don't worry about it.
The sugar in whole fruit is metabolised differently than added sugar.

So, if I sprinkle sugar on strawberries how are the sugars metabolized differently.......you can be scientific if you want.......people need to know of this medical breakthrough.

They're referring to how fructose (fruit sugar) is metabolized slower than sucrose (table sugar). While that is true, all sugars have the same number of calories. Eating too much of any sugar is not good. In moderation (2 servings), it's fine, unless you have a medical reason to avoid it. The more active you are, the more sugar you can have without it affecting fat loss.

PBandJ_Panda

Grapes are fruit!! So they are fine!:) Its natural sugar it is not like the sugar you'd put in coffee or tea or candy bars, so its OK:) I wouldn't eat 10 cups of grapes in a day haha but 2 is fine

osucristina30

Eat less grapes! They are a high sugar fruit and if that bothers you, mix it up. I've got about 5-6 grapes with stawberries and kiwi today.

sophia9849

Does this sound like a good recipe from a weight loss standpoint? I am worried about the natural sugar from the grapes. But then I think, how could all this natural fruit and vegetables ever be bad?

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paleojoe

Hello,

I apparently went over my sugar limit just by having two cups of grapes. Or, at least, according to MFP.

Does this sound right? I don't want to go over so much. Are grapes actually kind of a "bad" fruit? I'm trying to get back on track for losing weight.

Going over sugar is only a problem if you go over your total calories... which would be a problem for any macro if fat loss is your goal.

Confuzzled4ever

red grapes are a low sugar fruit.. so are apples, oranges, peaches, plums, prickly pears and berries (i probably missed a few) I love them in my yogurt.. they add just the right amount of sweetness. It you eat 2 servings of fruit you're going to go over what MFP has set for you. If it bothers you increase the limit or remove that nutrient from your displayed tracking nutrients.

ahamm002

Hello,

I apparently went over my sugar limit just by having two cups of grapes. Or, at least, according to MFP.

Does this sound right? I don't want to go over so much. Are grapes actually kind of a "bad" fruit? I'm trying to get back on track for losing weight.

Unless you are diabetic - don't worry about it.
The sugar in whole fruit is metabolised differently than added sugar.
kind regards,

Ben

So, if I sprinkle sugar on strawberries how are the sugars metabolized differently.......you can be scientific if you want.......people need to know of this medical breakthrough.

It's not a breakthrough. Most people know that added sugars will generally be absorbed very quickly. Whereas sugars which are embedded within high fiber solid foods take more time b/c the food has to be digested.

Regardless almost every study ever done shows that fruit (all fruit, even grapes and bananas) is associated with all sorts of health benefits while not being associated with obesity. Whereas, almost every study ever done shows the exact opposite of added sugar. So avoid fruit at your own detriment.

paleojoe

Hello,

I apparently went over my sugar limit just by having two cups of grapes. Or, at least, according to MFP.

Does this sound right? I don't want to go over so much. Are grapes actually kind of a "bad" fruit? I'm trying to get back on track for losing weight.

Unless you are diabetic - don't worry about it.
The sugar in whole fruit is metabolised differently than added sugar.
kind regards,

Ben

So, if I sprinkle sugar on strawberries how are the sugars metabolized differently.......you can be scientific if you want.......people need to know of this medical breakthrough.

It's not a breakthrough. Most people know that added sugars will generally be absorbed very quickly. Whereas sugars which are embedded within high fiber solid foods take more time b/c the food has to be digested.

Regardless almost every study ever done shows that fruit (all fruit, even grapes and bananas) is associated with all sorts of health benefits while not being associated with obesity. Whereas, almost every study ever done shows the exact opposite of added sugar. So avoid fruit at your own detriment.

Again, this is only an issue if you go over your TDEE. The only real issue with added, or "processed" sugar is that it is just easier to eat too much if it and go over your TDEE... so just make sure you don't.

ahamm002

It would make no difference if it was sugar in grapes vs candy vs ice cream.

In theory, and assuming you're only worried about short term weight loss. But ice cream is a lot more dangerous than grapes. It's pretty hard to eat more than 300-400 calories of grapes in a single sitting, whereas I can polish off 1000 calories of ice cream without even realizing it.

My thing with grapes is not the amount of sugar. I just don't like how few grapes you get for the calories. I'd rather have a pound of strawberries.

Strawberries are awesome! They're also a lot more expensive than grapes though.

ahamm002

Again, this is only an issue if you go over your TDEE. The only real issue with added, or "processed" sugar is that it is just easier to eat too much if it and go over your TDEE... so just make sure you don't.

I have two issues with that statement. First, long term health isn't just about body composition. Fruit has lots of fiber, anti-oxidants, etc., that highly processed foods with added sugar lack. Second, while CICO may be king for weight loss, achieving your calorie intake goals is easier said than done for many people.

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paleojoe

Again, this is only an issue if you go over your TDEE. The only real issue with added, or "processed" sugar is that it is just easier to eat too much if it and go over your TDEE... so just make sure you don't.

I have two issues with that statement. First, long term health isn't just about body composition. Fruit has lots of fiber, anti-oxidants, etc., that highly processed foods with added sugar lack. Second, while CICO may be king for weight loss, achieving your calorie intake goals is easier said than done for many people.

I agree with all you have stated... that said, none of it disputes anything I have stated.

paleojoe

I honestly would like to see the studies where processed foods are actually responsible for all these long term health issues. Seems like a lot of speculation. Remember, in the 80's fat was responsible for all the long term health issues, now processed foods, what will it be next.

IMO, I think it's (pic your macro) the chronic overfed state that causes obesity and long term health issues.

yoovie

i think it's okay. Wait - are you diabetic?

ahamm002

Short term weight loss? Like paleojoe keeps saying, if you stay below TDEE I don't see what the issue is.
What you are talking about is lacking self control. I have absolutely no problem serving myself 1 serving or 1 1/2 servings of ice cream nightly. Many people here lose weight consistently while having ice cream in their repertoire.

Yes, short term weight loss. That's b/c it takes people like me quite a bit of motivation to cut themselves off when eating foods like ice-cream. When I was losing weight quickly and had high motivation that was fine. But once you hit a maintenance phase (or get really stress at work, etc.) it's easy for that motivation to wane. That's when the junk food in your diet can be a big problem for some people. And I'm definitely not in favor of completely cutting out junk food, just keeping it minimal.

If you're ice-man with your diet and have no problems always staying below your TDEE then there is no issue of course.

I wouldn't go as far as saying "fruit has a lot of fiber". A lot of fruit has fiber but I wouldn't say a lot. Plus we can very easily get fiber from tons of other foods.

I honestly would like to see the studies where processed foods are actually responsible for all these long term health issues. Seems like a lot of speculation. Remember, in the 80's fat was responsible for all the long term health issues, now processed foods, what will it be next.

Fruit does have a lot of fiber! There are also tons of studies showing that fruits and veggies are associated with tons of health benefits, including longevity and thinness. If you choose to get your carbs and fiber from other food sources that's your decision. But you can't replace fruits and veggies with other types of food and expect to get the same health benefits.

paleojoe

Fruit does have a lot of fiber! There are also tons of studies showing that fruits and veggies are associated with tons of health benefits, including longevity and thinness. If you choose to get your carbs and fiber from other food sources that's your decision. But you can't replace fruits and veggies with other types of food and expect to get the same health benefits.

This raises a question that I often wonder about...

Does the health benefit come from the food, or from the state of being lean?

Confuzzled4ever

Thanks to this thread. I bought grapes yesterday.

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ahamm002

Fruit does have a lot of fiber! There are also tons of studies showing that fruits and veggies are associated with tons of health benefits, including longevity and thinness. If you choose to get your carbs and fiber from other food sources that's your decision. But you can't replace fruits and veggies with other types of food and expect to get the same health benefits.

This raises a question that I often wonder about...

Does the health benefit come from the food, or from the state of being lean?

Good question, I believe there are studies that control for BMI and still show health benefits from getting 5-9 servings of fruits and veggies per day, but I don't know if they also controlled for fiber intake, exercise, etc.

ahamm002

I never said fruits and vegetables lack benefits in health. I'm saying I would like to see the studies that show processed foods are responsible for all these health problems.

Again, fruit has some fiber. And some more than others but I would not say a lot!

Well there is a big difference b/w associating fruits with health benefits versus proving that processed foods are bad for you. IMO If you only have X amount of calories though, it's probably better to get the majority from foods that have known health benefits.

In regard to fruit's fiber, most fruit like apples, peaches, bananas, etc., have about 3-4 grams per 100 calorie serving which I think is pretty good.

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ahamm002

I am asking for proof that the processed foods are so bad. I mean you said it yourself. And you also said the below, no? Where are the studies.

Stop putting words into my mouth. I never said that "processed foods" are "the cause" of disease. I have stated that they lack the health benefits of natural foods like fruit, and are also more easy to overeat.

Also, how much fiber does a banana have?

A banana that is approximately 100 calories has approximately 3 grams of fiber. Slightly less per calorie than many other fruits, but that's still pretty good. If you eat mostly junk food, one banana won't help you meat your fiber goals. But if you eat mostly natural foods than 3 grams of fiber per 100 calories is easily enough to meet the daily recommended intake of fiber. And there is more to fruit than just fiber, there are antioxidants, potassium, and other micronutrients.

loriq41

We are having a tea at work today with desserts and my coworker (who is very sweet) said to me "there will be grapes for you..I bought some"...my first thought was the sugar..eeeekkkkk! I love grapes but I kind of winced...I hate that I am being so picky and it sucks...so I guess I will have a few...real hard at work since everyone knows I am the "good food girl" that even if I wanted something bad...I would feel as though all eyes are on me....I wish I could just leave work early...lol