Building bitterness at a young age

ren_ascent
ren_ascent Posts: 432 Member
New policies in school, applied to Kindergarteners and up: Any play at shooting guns, even with your finger in the shape of a pistol, is an automatic suspension. Playtime is now officially over.

I'm just lamenting the obliteration of the gray area.
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  • heylookitsval
    heylookitsval Posts: 1,141 Member
    Childhood sucks after 1999.
  • ren_ascent
    ren_ascent Posts: 432 Member
    Childhood sucks after 1999.

    That is the very honest truth.
  • echofm1
    echofm1 Posts: 471 Member
    Yeah. I'd definitely say that's going a bit far, particularly for a suspension.
  • gabbygirl78
    gabbygirl78 Posts: 936 Member
    Childhood sucks after 1999.

    That is the very honest truth.

    agreed!!!! People are taking this crap to extremes. Kids will be kids.
  • The_Enginerd
    The_Enginerd Posts: 3,982 Member
    And yet, how many of those same kids at home shooting hordes of people and running over hookers.

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  • firstsip
    firstsip Posts: 8,399 Member
    bitter taste buds in kids are actually very strong they dont need to be built
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
    What about mimicking swordplay or archery?
  • Derpes
    Derpes Posts: 2,033 Member
    That is an awfully Draconian policy.

    The charlatans who develop such policies should be horsewhipped.
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    What about mimicking swordplay or archery?

    That will definitely be next.
  • ren_ascent
    ren_ascent Posts: 432 Member
    And yet, how many of those same kids at home shooting hordes of people and running over hookers.

    gta1_zpsaa5677bb.jpg

    People who say violent video games don't affect child development are, dare I say it, morons. Flight simulators are used to condition pilots so they handle themselves appropriately in real life situations. They are not at a critial stage of mental development, it's just training. Apply that technique to an impressionable child.
  • pastryari
    pastryari Posts: 8,646 Member
    bitter taste buds in kids are actually very strong they dont need to be built

    I love you.
  • da_bears10089
    da_bears10089 Posts: 1,791 Member
    bitter taste buds in kids are actually very strong they dont need to be built

    I love you.
    QFT
  • beernpizza2
    beernpizza2 Posts: 553 Member
    In school, (and still to this day), pointing my fingers out like guns was/is my best dance move. I would have gotten kicked out of every prom.

    It makes me sad that my daughters are going to grow up in a school environment that is so different than mine was.
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
    You know what makes me sad. It's primarily little boys who play guns, swords, and those "robber" type games. Boys are already hurting in regards to the decline in entrance to Universities, and now we will put one more gender bias on them. That means you will have more children suspended from school, missing time on the already shortened school schedule, and doing nothing but sitting home playing video games and watching TV.

    Makes me disgusted. No one really cares about education. Cheers to a stupid America...we deserve it. :drinker:
  • firstsip
    firstsip Posts: 8,399 Member
    bitter taste buds in kids are actually very strong they dont need to be built

    I love you.
    QFT

    :blushing:
  • Greenrun99
    Greenrun99 Posts: 2,065 Member
    Since nobody wants to take responsibility for their kids, and nobody wants to do anything about guns, and we don't want to put metal detectors in every school (especially those suburban, upper class, white schools.. where the shootings happen) then this is what happens.. Maybe parents should.. I don't know... lock up their guns, and not let their kids have access to them.. ya know.. responsibility...
  • ren_ascent
    ren_ascent Posts: 432 Member
    You know what makes me sad. It's primarily little boys who play guns, swords, and those "robber" type games. Boys are already hurting in regards to the decline in entrance to Universities, and now we will put one more gender bias on them. That means you will have more children suspended from school, missing time on the already shortened school schedule, and doing nothing but sitting home playing video games and watching TV.

    Makes me disgusted. No one really cares about education. Cheers to a stupid America...we deserve it. :drinker:

    I hadn't even considered this type of role playing as not being gender neutral, but you are right. I was "my stick is a sword" girl myself.
  • ronit_rai
    ronit_rai Posts: 325 Member
    What are you doing here? Did someone leave your
    cage open?
  • ryry_
    ryry_ Posts: 4,966 Member
    I guess it would depend on the context for me...No interpretation and discernment seems so dumb.

    Situation 1: Someone points fake gun and angrily says "You a punk, I'm gonna get my daddie's gun and klap you". I get it

    Situation 2: "So Tommy, I was playing Ratchet and Clank yesterday, and i got the machine gun and i was totally like...(makes machine gun like gesture)...Oh man it was so fun, I can't wait to play it at our sleepover."

    Hopefully reason would prevail in #2
  • vanillacoffee
    vanillacoffee Posts: 1,024 Member
    Childhood sucks after 1999.

    YUP.
  • Naomi0504
    Naomi0504 Posts: 964 Member
    Since nobody wants to take responsibility for their kids, and nobody wants to do anything about guns, and we don't want to put metal detectors in every school (especially those suburban, upper class, white schools.. where the shootings happen) then this is what happens.. Maybe parents should.. I don't know... lock up their guns, and not let their kids have access to them.. ya know.. responsibility...

    I agree with this verrrry much, especially that first sentence :wink: I think a lot more discretion needs to happen in homes, and I do also agree with boys being the ones who usually suffer overall (in terms of academics, etc).
  • TheRoadDog
    TheRoadDog Posts: 11,788 Member
    I went to Kindergarden in 1959. We played Cowboys and Indians all the time. I turned out okay. So did the majority of my generation.


    Now it would have to be called Cowboys and Native Americans. And the Cowboys would be gambling at Native American Casinos.
  • asimmons221
    asimmons221 Posts: 294 Member
    And yet, how many of those same kids at home shooting hordes of people and running over hookers.

    gta1_zpsaa5677bb.jpg

    People who say violent video games don't affect child development are, dare I say it, morons. Flight simulators are used to condition pilots so they handle themselves appropriately in real life situations. They are not at a critial stage of mental development, it's just training. Apply that technique to an impressionable child.

    to blame video games is scapegoating really, even at such a young age it's nothing more then them playing cops and robbers. Visually how is it any different then whats shown on movies. These kids that do these acts i bet lash out in this manner because of their upbringing and whats going on in their life and not what game they're playing.
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
    And yet, how many of those same kids at home shooting hordes of people and running over hookers.

    gta1_zpsaa5677bb.jpg

    People who say violent video games don't affect child development are, dare I say it, morons. Flight simulators are used to condition pilots so they handle themselves appropriately in real life situations. They are not at a critial stage of mental development, it's just training. Apply that technique to an impressionable child.

    to blame video games is scapegoating really, even at such a young age it's nothing more then them playing cops and robbers. Visually how is it any different then whats shown on movies. These kids that do these acts i bet lash out in this manner because of their upbringing and whats going on in their life and not what game they're playing.

    Violent video games aren't the problem. Parents who buy Rated M video games for their young children and use the game as a baby sitter are the problem.

    I was taught how to use a gun at a young age, heck, probably before I even HAD a video game console (unless you count Pong). We shot soda cans and styrofoam wig heads. Seeing what a bullet will do to a foam head made me damn careful about shooting.
  • ren_ascent
    ren_ascent Posts: 432 Member
    And yet, how many of those same kids at home shooting hordes of people and running over hookers.

    gta1_zpsaa5677bb.jpg

    People who say violent video games don't affect child development are, dare I say it, morons. Flight simulators are used to condition pilots so they handle themselves appropriately in real life situations. They are not at a critial stage of mental development, it's just training. Apply that technique to an impressionable child.

    to blame video games is scapegoating really, even at such a young age it's nothing more then them playing cops and robbers. Visually how is it any different then whats shown on movies. These kids that do these acts i bet lash out in this manner because of their upbringing and whats going on in their life and not what game they're playing.

    Violent video games aren't the problem. Parents who buy Rated M video games for their young children and use the game as a baby sitter are the problem.

    I was taught how to use a gun at a young age, heck, probably before I even HAD a video game console (unless you count Pong). We shot soda cans and styrofoam wig heads. Seeing what a bullet will do to a foam head made me damn careful about shooting.

    "even at such a young age it's nothing more then them playing cops and robbers"
    There are no consequences for what goes on in video games. It's action without any kind of negitive social feedback. Parents who buy the games fail to acknowledge what they are introducing into the childs environment.

    "I was taught how to use a gun at a young age"
    Because real life teaches those kinds of lessons and vidoe games do not, so I'm glad you learned that way. I learned that a rifle has enough kick to knock me on my butt back when I was 12.

    I'm not spearheading violent video games as the cause for all societies problems. It is both a symptom and a contributor.
  • RozayJones
    RozayJones Posts: 409 Member
    Childhood sucks after 1999.

    ^^^^This
  • toutmonpossible
    toutmonpossible Posts: 1,580 Member
    Without any context given, this does seem like overkill. But we live in one of, or the most, violent prosperous country on earth and something has to be done. Not every approach will succeed.
  • Blacklance36
    Blacklance36 Posts: 755 Member
    Since nobody wants to take responsibility for their kids, and nobody wants to do anything about guns, and we don't want to put metal detectors in every school (especially those suburban, upper class, white schools.. where the shootings happen) then this is what happens.. Maybe parents should.. I don't know... lock up their guns, and not let their kids have access to them.. ya know.. responsibility...

    I agree with this verrrry much, especially that first sentence :wink: I think a lot more discretion needs to happen in homes, and I do also agree with boys being the ones who usually suffer overall (in terms of academics, etc).

    The police in California just shot a 13 year old for carrying a replica of an assault rifle. The kid did not drop it when asked to so they opened fire....are the parents to blame and if not who is at fault?