Does lifting weights create a greater deficit?
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I have no problem exercising, but have developed a bad habit of overeating since the beginning of this summer. I'll be on track for a few days, intermittent fasting to control my portions during the day, then lose my motivation by evening and just give up (see food diary.)
I'm wondering if I should start lifting weights to compensate for my eating, or if you might have any suggestions to keep motivated and curb my carelessness. I was a very healthy 100 lbs and now weigh about 125, and am gaining. If I lift weights will the weight be re-proportioned?
I'm wondering if I should start lifting weights to compensate for my eating, or if you might have any suggestions to keep motivated and curb my carelessness. I was a very healthy 100 lbs and now weigh about 125, and am gaining. If I lift weights will the weight be re-proportioned?
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Will it create a bigger deficit?
yeah.
Rest of your post? Eat less, sorry.0 -
You shouldn't look at lifting as a way to burn calories. It is a way to change your body comp depending upon a) whether you do it properly b) diet.
You need to rein in your eating habits. No exercise selection can make up for out-of-control choices. Nor should it.
Lift because you want to drop body-fat, or get stronger or add muscle (depending on how you do it and how you structure your diet)0 -
Intermittent fasting? That's probably what's making you overeat. Why not find healthy foods to snack on? I'm not sure your reasoning for fasting. Medical issues you haven't mentioned maybe? I'm just a bit confused.0
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Are you doing a lot of cardio?
Read some science journals
. Cardio causes hunger much more severe than weight lifting does, and that might contribute towards your binging.
All things in moderation.0 -
Weights!? no need
Disregard, lifting is extremely beneficial0 -
If you're just looking to burn calories, cardio actually burns more. If you're looking into body composition, then weights are great for that. Also, according to height/weight charts, unless you're 5' or shorter, 100 lbs isn't a healthy body weight. But if you are, and 125 lbs really is overweight for you, then exercise COMBINED with controlled calorie intake is the best way to go.0
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You cant out-exercise a poor diet. Lifting weights burned calories but think of it as an investment in future workouts. It will help build muscle, give you stronger bones etc.
To be honest, it sounds like you aren't really sure how to go about it. Rule no. 1 of losing weight is calories out is greater than calories in. Period. Break this and you are setting yourself up to fail. I run, weight train etc and eat 2500 calories on some days but still lose or at least maintain.
High protein, high fat diet works for me, medium carbs on a split of 30/50/20 for protein, carbs, fats. I weight train four times a week and run three times a week (as I'm in a strength phase).
If it helps break down your daily calories into groups. I do 700 before 12, 1400 before 4, 2100 before end of day (obviously change the numbers to suit you - maybe groups of 500 so 500, 1000, 1500 to start with.0 -
Lifting won't burn much calories. Cardio will. Lifting will help you gain muscle, but you still need to get okay with being hungry at times. Unfortunately, that is how you know you are in a caloric deficit.
If you eat a surplus of calories over what you burn, and lift weights, you will gain weight in muscle AND fat. No need to do that. You can gain muscle (if you want), and lose fat at the same time. But you need enough protein (0.8 to 1.0 grams per pound, so for you up to 125 grams/day) to build muscle, you need to lift and force those muscles to grow, and eat a deficit of calories (to get your body to burn stored fat).
If you are having more hunger than you can deal with, cut your caloric deficit back some. If you are trying to cut 1 lb/week (500 cal/day deficit), go to 0.5 lb/week (250 cal/day deficit). Or, 100 cal/day deficit will yield about 10 lbs/year. Slower, but go with what you can manage.
When I want to lose fat, I try to keep in mind every time my stomach says "hungry, feed me", what my body is doing is taking stored fat and converting it into the energy it needs. It makes me feel better when I am hungry, and feel less grumpy and more motivated to push on a little longer to my next meal/snack. That has really helped me keep from going off the rails.
Also, if I can keep away from sweets/candy for a few days, I find that cravings for them (mostly) go away... Until the next time I get a taste...
Losing fat is simple, but not easy. Caloric deficit - simple math. Hunger - hard. Keep your focus on your goal. Once you reach your goal, you can up your calories to maintenance levels (add in whatever deficit you used) and not have to deal with the hunger. If you are still losing weight (week to week), you are still below maintenance. If you are gaining weight week to week, you are eating more.
IF can be a great tool for weight loss, or maintenance (if you know you are going to splurge for dinner, or splurged the day before). I find it easier to skip breakfast than any other meals.
You can do it!0 -
Additionally, I would like to add that no exercise should be done just to burn calories.
Exercise selection should be wiser than that. Weight loss should be a dietary thing. Exercise improves you by increasing your performance against certain metrics.
It's time people got out of the shallow calorie burn approach to exercise.0 -
I've read bodybuilders say they have trouble eating enough food, sometimes. I like the idea of that. I generally do intermittent fasting as it helps keep my mind off food until later. Otherwise I just think of it all day.
I do need to get control of my cravings, it's never that I'm actually hungry, I just eat because it's all I can think about. It would be cool to pick up a more healthy obsession - like weight lifting.
and yes I usually do about 3-4 hours of walking and about 30 minutes of the elliptical. But still not balancing my chocolate chip addiction. 0 -
After reviewing your profile, I would highly suggest you consult a more-appropriate health professional.0
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If you're trying to build a calorie deficit then cardio is the best thing to do. If you're trying to improve strength, shape and muscle tone then you need to do lifting.
I run 5K on alternate days purely for the calorie burn, otherwise there would be no pizza, muffins or ice cream in my life, then I'd feel deprived then I break my diet. Exercise has been the magic bullet for me and doing this I have lost weight at a steady 1lb a week since June.
You just have to find the way that works best for you.
Edited for ipad fat finger syndrome.0 -
I've read bodybuilders say they have trouble eating enough food, sometimes. I like the idea of that. I generally do intermittent fasting as it helps keep my mind off food until later. Otherwise I just think of it all day.
I do need to get control of my cravings, it's never that I'm actually hungry, I just eat because it's all I can think about. It would be cool to pick up a more healthy obsession - like weight lifting. and yes I usually do about 3-4 hours of walking and about 30 minutes of the elliptical. But still not balancing my chocolate chip addiction.
They have trouble eating enough food because they are trying to bulk (which increases muscle and fat - something I sense you are not keen to do). When they are trying to cut, they have trouble restricting their food. It's all about context. With greater understanding, comes context.0 -
2spamagnet and jimmer-- thank you0
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Nope, I'm definitely paddling in those shallows. Works for me!Additionally, I would like to add that no exercise should be done just to burn calories.
Exercise selection should be wiser than that. Weight loss should be a dietary thing. Exercise improves you by increasing your performance against certain metrics.
It's time people got out of the shallow calorie burn approach to exercise.
You don't fancy coming for a run with me this morning then?
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Nope, I'm definitely paddling in those shallows. Works for me!Additionally, I would like to add that no exercise should be done just to burn calories.
Exercise selection should be wiser than that. Weight loss should be a dietary thing. Exercise improves you by increasing your performance against certain metrics.
It's time people got out of the shallow calorie burn approach to exercise.
You don't fancy coming for a run with me this morning then?
Sorry, got mobility and flexibility work planned this morning!0 -
After reviewing your diary, I change my mind.
I'm not interested in helping trolls.
A 5'5" woman weighing 120 lbs, aiming for 100 lbs, eating 1000 calories a day doesn't need help.
What is it, school holidays? I wish the trolls would p*** off and leave this place.0 -
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When I want to lose fat, I try to keep in mind every time my stomach says "hungry, feed me", what my body is doing is taking stored fat and converting it into the energy it needs. It makes me feel better when I am hungry, and feel less grumpy and more motivated to push on a little longer to my next meal/snack. That has really helped me keep from going off the rails.
Also, if I can keep away from sweets/candy for a few days, I find that cravings for them (mostly) go away... Until the next time I get a taste...
Losing fat is simple, but not easy. Caloric deficit - simple math. Hunger - hard. Keep your focus on your goal. Once you reach your goal, you can up your calories to maintenance levels (add in whatever deficit you used) and not have to deal with the hunger. If you are still losing weight (week to week), you are still below maintenance. If you are gaining weight week to week, you are eating more.
IF can be a great tool for weight loss, or maintenance (if you know you are going to splurge for dinner, or splurged the day before). I find it easier to skip breakfast than any other meals.
You can do it!
I don't know who is supposed to be the troll... but this is really solid advice for anyone interested in gaining motivation to stay (or start, like me) with controlling hunger.
And ElizabethFuller, NICE with working the system and living life. That is also super inspiring. Good work.0 -
I don't know who is supposed to be the troll...
That would be you.0 -
Additionally, I would like to add that no exercise should be done just to burn calories.
Exercise selection should be wiser than that. Weight loss should be a dietary thing. Exercise improves you by increasing your performance against certain metrics.
It's time people got out of the shallow calorie burn approach to exercise.
No.0 -
Additionally, I would like to add that no exercise should be done just to burn calories.
Exercise selection should be wiser than that. Weight loss should be a dietary thing. Exercise improves you by increasing your performance against certain metrics.
It's time people got out of the shallow calorie burn approach to exercise.
No.
Ummm... okay?0 -
Additionally, I would like to add that no exercise should be done just to burn calories.
Exercise selection should be wiser than that. Weight loss should be a dietary thing. Exercise improves you by increasing your performance against certain metrics.
It's time people got out of the shallow calorie burn approach to exercise.
No.
Ummm... okay?
Sorry, I should explain. I don't think anybody needs any high and lofty reason to work out. Burning calories is a perfectly legit reason to exercise. Should there be some type of diet control? Absolutely. But many people exercise just so they can eat more, and there's nothing wrong with that.0 -
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Additionally, I would like to add that no exercise should be done just to burn calories.
Exercise selection should be wiser than that. Weight loss should be a dietary thing. Exercise improves you by increasing your performance against certain metrics.
It's time people got out of the shallow calorie burn approach to exercise.
No.
Ummm... okay?
Sorry, I should explain. I don't think anybody needs any high and lofty reason to work out. Burning calories is a perfectly legit reason to exercise. Should there be some type of diet control? Absolutely. But many people exercise just so they can eat more, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Ah, I see. Sorry, had my telepathy turned off this morning!
What happens is something like people do a massive amount of calorie burning activity to support their eating habits. Then a holiday happens. Or injury happens. Or sickness. Or they have kids. Or a bereavement happens. Etc, etc. Then they can no longer sustain that high level of calorie burn due to another factor. But they continue to "eat all the foods" because they have used exercise as a tool for calorie management and failed to make habitual changes - thus they undo everything they've achieved through strapping themselves into an elliptical 6 times a week.
There's nothing wrong with it. But it's unsustainable over a whole life. So you're basically doing it for a month? A year? Then what?
And, I might add, having lofty goals isn't a bad thing. So I don't know why you're trying to pitch that as a negative!0 -
Additionally, I would like to add that no exercise should be done just to burn calories.
Exercise selection should be wiser than that. Weight loss should be a dietary thing. Exercise improves you by increasing your performance against certain metrics.
It's time people got out of the shallow calorie burn approach to exercise.
No.
Ummm... okay?
This is a great point to me. From a woman's point of view, eating for the abs and exercising for the skin should rather be the philosophy. I don't think it's a high-and-mighty way of viewing exercise, I think it's a healthy mental position to put cravings into perspective.0 -
Additionally, I would like to add that no exercise should be done just to burn calories.
Exercise selection should be wiser than that. Weight loss should be a dietary thing. Exercise improves you by increasing your performance against certain metrics.
It's time people got out of the shallow calorie burn approach to exercise.
No.
Ummm... okay?
Sorry, I should explain. I don't think anybody needs any high and lofty reason to work out. Burning calories is a perfectly legit reason to exercise. Should there be some type of diet control? Absolutely. But many people exercise just so they can eat more, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Ah, I see. Sorry, had my telepathy turned off this morning!
What happens is something like people do a massive amount of calorie burning activity to support their eating habits. Then a holiday happens. Or injury happens. Or sickness. Or they have kids. Or a bereavement happens. Etc, etc. Then they can no longer sustain that high level of calorie burn due to another factor. But they continue to "eat all the foods" because they have used exercise as a tool for calorie management and failed to make habitual changes - thus they undo everything they've achieved through strapping themselves into an elliptical 6 times a week.
There's nothing wrong with it. But it's unsustainable over a whole life. So you're basically doing it for a month? A year? Then what?
And, I might add, having lofty goals isn't a bad thing. So I don't know why you're trying to pitch that as a negative!
I do agree that using exercise as the ONLY form of calorie control is problematic, at best. There does need to be diet modification is almost every weight loss situation.
Also, I don't think that there is anything at all wrong with high and lofty goals, I have many myself and think they are wonderful! All I'm saying is that they aren't required in this situation.0 -
I don't know who is supposed to be the troll...
That would be you.
I wanted to know if lifting weights would use my calories in a new way. I'm not sure what constitutes that as "trolling"0 -
I don't know who is supposed to be the troll...
That would be you.
I wanted to know if lifting weights would use my calories in a new way. I'm not sure what constitutes that as "trolling"
A 5'5 woman aiming for 100 lbs and 1000 cals a day .... not buying it 0 -
Additionally, I would like to add that no exercise should be done just to burn calories.
Exercise selection should be wiser than that. Weight loss should be a dietary thing. Exercise improves you by increasing your performance against certain metrics.
It's time people got out of the shallow calorie burn approach to exercise.
No.
Ummm... okay?
Sorry, I should explain. I don't think anybody needs any high and lofty reason to work out. Burning calories is a perfectly legit reason to exercise. Should there be some type of diet control? Absolutely. But many people exercise just so they can eat more, and there's nothing wrong with that.
Ah, I see. Sorry, had my telepathy turned off this morning!
What happens is something like people do a massive amount of calorie burning activity to support their eating habits. Then a holiday happens. Or injury happens. Or sickness. Or they have kids. Or a bereavement happens. Etc, etc. Then they can no longer sustain that high level of calorie burn due to another factor. But they continue to "eat all the foods" because they have used exercise as a tool for calorie management and failed to make habitual changes - thus they undo everything they've achieved through strapping themselves into an elliptical 6 times a week.
There's nothing wrong with it. But it's unsustainable over a whole life. So you're basically doing it for a month? A year? Then what?
And, I might add, having lofty goals isn't a bad thing. So I don't know why you're trying to pitch that as a negative!
I do agree that using exercise as the ONLY form of calorie control is problematic, at best. There does need to be diet modification is almost every weight loss situation.
Also, I don't think that there is anything at all wrong with high and lofty goals, I have many myself and think they are wonderful! All I'm saying is that they aren't required in this situation.
Well, I opened up on the original theme in the thread because it had probably gone as far as it could go in it's current form and there are interesting things to say about it that often go unsaid.
But it seems like we agree after all!0 -
After reviewing your profile, I would highly suggest you consult a more-appropriate health professional.
this. Lifting weights is awesome, but you may have deeper problems that will not be cured by extra exercise. Good luck.0
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