Am I doing Too Much Training?

tangy1

Hi All,
I am wondering what you all think as to if I am training to much? The reason for asking is I continuously have a lot of calories left over at the end of the day to consume, Although I feel I am full enough to not need anymore to eat. I feel really full.
A quick snap shot. I am currently 83kg goal weight is 82kg. I am still soft around the stomach area.I wish to build definition and toning, I train 6 days a weeks as I enjoy it so much. Currently 3 days cardio & 3 days weights. I have been told I need to build more muscle mass to continue to loss the last stubborn fat areas around my stomach as muscle will burn more fat and I will continue to maintain a weight around the 82-84kg.
Below is an average day on MFP.
Goal 1640( this is to loss .5kg week), Food 1933, Exercise 1648 = 285 net. Calories remaining 1355. I continuously have over 1000 each day left over.
Currently using a fitbit as a step and exercise counter.

JcMey3r

Sounds good but since your so close to your goal you should do more weight training than cardio. Have the food drop the bodyfat %. What I do is go to www.iifym.com and do the calculater there. Currently I should eat 2200 calories considering an average of training 3 times a day. I set up MFP to be at 2200 and if I log my exercise I dont eat back the calories as 2200 has already got the exercise worked into it.

But definitely work harder with weights and try to consume much of your calories with protein.

chicbuc

If you're seriously burning 1600 calories a day with exercise, you need to eat more.

tangy1

Just a extra add on. I had a body fat scan done last week that measure the depth of fat to the muscle. I came in at 24% body fat. I feel I would like to get this down to the low teens.

tangy1

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tangy1

If you're seriously burning 1600 calories a day with exercise, you need to eat more.

Thats my thoughts as well, the fitbit is set up and paired correctly to MFP. I feel I can't eat anymore than I already am unless I eat a higher carb diet.
I should add thats 1600 burn through out the whole day as per the fitbit. I am on my feet most of the day with work plus the training.

sarahrbraun

Hi All,
I am wondering what you all think as to if I am training to much? The reason for asking is I continuously have a lot of calories left over at the end of the day to consume, Although I feel I am full enough to not need anymore to eat. I feel really full.
A quick snap shot. I am currently 83kg goal weight is 82kg. I am still soft around the stomach area.I wish to build definition and toning, I train 6 days a weeks as I enjoy it so much. Currently 3 days cardio & 3 days weights. I have been told I need to build more muscle mass to continue to loss the last stubborn fat areas around my stomach as muscle will burn more fat and I will continue to maintain a weight around the 82-84kg.
Below is an average day on MFP.
Goal 1640( this is to loss .5kg week), Food 1933, Exercise 1648 = 285 net. Calories remaining 1355. I continuously have over 1000 each left over.
Currently using a fitbit as a step and exercise counter.

My question would be....is 1648 your fitbit adjustment, or the TDEE shown on your fitbit? It sounds to me like it is the TDEE, and you wouldn't HAVE a fitbit adjustment. You might be actually eating more than you should!

tangy1

What is TDEE? Activity level on MFP is set at sedentary and all activity is set by the fitbit unless it is extreme exercise like today where I did 1 hour of Body attack at the gym.
It is fitbit adjustment.
Cheers.

sarahrbraun

What is TDEE? Activity level on MFP is set at sedentary and all activity is set by the fitbit unless it is extreme exercise like today where I did 1 hour of Body attack at the gym.
Cheers.

TDEE is Total Daily Energy Expenditure

I also have a fitbit. When I click through it, it said that I had burned 2388 calories by the end of the day. That was NOT what I burned at the gym ( my heart rate monitor said 1000 calories), that was my TDEE.

tangy1

All my details from the fitbit are synced with MFP if i do any more in tense exercise in enter that on MFP.

wilsoje74

What are you doing to burn that many calories???

MeanderingMammal

What are you doing to burn that many calories???

That equates to about 90 minutes of running

mustgetmuscles1

Sounds like you are having issues with your gadget. There is no way you are burning 1600 cals from weightlifting and you would have to be running at a pretty good pace or for a long time to burn that much running.

What are you doing for cardio and lifting and how long?

ETA: Just for reference I burn about 630 calories for an hour of vigorous calisthenics and around 210 caloies for and hour of weightlifting.

tangy1

All my details from the fitbit are synced with MFP if i do any more in tense exercise in enter that on MFP.

Hornsby

Something is wrong somewhere. I am guessing with the 1648 number. That is a ridiculous amount of calories everyday.

ElliottTN

1600 burn for weightlifting? What are you doing on the gym? Running a half marathon on a treadmill with a 45 plate strapped to your back?

tangy1

Sounds like you are having issues with your gadget. There is no way you are burning 1600 cals from weightlifting and you would have to be running at a pretty good pace or for a long time to burn that much running.

What are you doing for cardio and lifting and how long?

ETA: Just for reference I burn about 630 calories for an hour of vigorous calisthenics and around 210 caloies for and hour of weightlifting.

As an example. Yesterday I was up at 5am. Did 1hour les mills Body Attack which is a very high intensity cardio class. For the rest of the day I am constantly on my feet walking almost continuously while at work for 8 hours.
Yesterday as an example I covered 22,000 steps and 17.55km, 80 min active minutes, 3786 cal. This is from my fitbit.

tangy1

1600 burn for weightlifting? What are you doing on the gym? Running a half marathon on a treadmill with a 45 plate strapped to your back?

I have not stated anywhere this is from weightlifting. Details quoted above where from a purely cardio day. I do not enter anything for weight training on the days I do it.

Guinivere

What is TDEE? Activity level on MFP is set at sedentary and all activity is set by the fitbit unless it is extreme exercise like today where I did 1 hour of Body attack at the gym.
It is fitbit adjustment.
Cheers.

Why are you set to sedentary when you said you burn calories with your active job?
I burn about 400 cals doing a really intensive hour of circuit training and 320 playing an hour of badminton.
Your 1600 cals must include the cals you burn to breathe and stay alive, which is your BMR. Mine is about 1500 if I lay in my bed and did nothing all day. If you are already really fit you will burn less so maybe you burn 1200 plus a 400 cal workout?
I eat approx 1800-2300 cals per day as I am in temporary maintenance. Which equals my BMR plus exercise. So I stay the same weight but because I lift heavy weights I lose fat and gain lean tissue.

Don't obsess about losing two kilos, go on what you see in the mirror and how you feel. I would reduce your cardio too, or drop it altogether in favour of interval training, but that's just my personal preference for building muscle and burning fat.

ElliottTN

1600 burn for weightlifting? What are you doing on the gym? Running a half marathon on a treadmill with a 45 plate strapped to your back?

I have not stated anywhere this is from weightlifting. Details quoted above where from a purely cardio day. I do not enter anything for weight training on the days I do it.

Oh, I must have been mixed up by your post saying you do 3 days cardio and 3 days weights with your average day burning around 1600 range.

tangy1

What is TDEE? Activity level on MFP is set at sedentary and all activity is set by the fitbit unless it is extreme exercise like today where I did 1 hour of Body attack at the gym.
It is fitbit adjustment.
Cheers.

Why are you set to sedentary when you said you burn calories with your active job?
I burn about 400 cals doing a really intensive hour of circuit training and 320 playing an hour of badminton.
Your 1600 cals must include the cals you burn to breathe and stay alive, which is your BMR. Mine is about 1500 if I lay in my bed and did nothing all day. If you are already really fit you will burn less so maybe you burn 1200 plus a 400 cal workout?
I eat approx 1800-2300 cals per day as I am in temporary maintenance. Which equals my BMR plus exercise. So I stay the same weight but because I lift heavy weights I lose fat and gain lean tissue.

Don't obsess about losing two kilos, go on what you see in the mirror and how you feel. I would reduce your cardio too, or drop it altogether in favour of interval training, but that's just my personal preference for building muscle and burning fat.

I use the the fitbit to enter all my activity as this is more accurate for me than guessing. if I do a big cardio workout I also enter that to MFP. I consider myself to be very cardio fit.

ell_v131

All my details from the fitbit are synced with MFP if i do any more in tense exercise in enter that on MFP.

I think your fitbit is counting the total energy expenditures you have in a day, from when you get up.to when you go to sleep. Right? This is what others referred to as tdee (ok im oversymplifying but just to make it clear ). When you tell mfp you are sedentary, it already counts with quite a bit of calories for your daily tasks and bmr, so if you add every step you have taken as measured by fitbit and put it on top of mfp allowance, you are counting it twice.

I would suggest putting your mfp setting as active and logging only the exercise you do for the purpose of burning calories. Or go to scooby calculator via Google and figure out your tdee, which would then give you a consistent number to go by every day without having to eat back any exercise calories.

I think this should help: -)

mustgetmuscles1

What is TDEE? Activity level on MFP is set at sedentary and all activity is set by the fitbit unless it is extreme exercise like today where I did 1 hour of Body attack at the gym.
It is fitbit adjustment.
Cheers.

Why are you set to sedentary when you said you burn calories with your active job?
I burn about 400 cals doing a really intensive hour of circuit training and 320 playing an hour of badminton.
Your 1600 cals must include the cals you burn to breathe and stay alive, which is your BMR. Mine is about 1500 if I lay in my bed and did nothing all day. If you are already really fit you will burn less so maybe you burn 1200 plus a 400 cal workout?
I eat approx 1800-2300 cals per day as I am in temporary maintenance. Which equals my BMR plus exercise. So I stay the same weight but because I lift heavy weights I lose fat and gain lean tissue.

Don't obsess about losing two kilos, go on what you see in the mirror and how you feel. I would reduce your cardio too, or drop it altogether in favour of interval training, but that's just my personal preference for building muscle and burning fat.

I use the the fitbit to enter all my activity as this is more accurate for me than guessing. if I do a big cardio workout I also enter that to MFP. I consider myself to be very cardio fit.

Yea it sounds like your gadget and your MFP setting are double counting some of your normal activity.

From your explanation of activity I would not say your are over training.

jenilla1

What are you doing to burn that many calories???

No kidding. I don't even burn that much running a half-marathon! :huh:

tangy1

I love doing the amount of exercise (cardio & weights) I'm doing but want to make sure I'm eating enough.

wilsoje74

Sounds like you are having issues with your gadget. There is no way you are burning 1600 cals from weightlifting and you would have to be running at a pretty good pace or for a long time to burn that much running.

What are you doing for cardio and lifting and how long?

ETA: Just for reference I burn about 630 calories for an hour of vigorous calisthenics and around 210 caloies for and hour of weightlifting.

As an example. Yesterday I was up at 5am. Did 1hour les mills Body Attack which is a very high intensity cardio class. For the rest of the day I am constantly on my feet walking almost continuously while at work for 8 hours.
Yesterday as an example I covered 22,000 steps and 17.55km, 80 min active minutes, 3786 cal. This is from my fitbit.

You don't get to count your everyday cals as extra. Your fitbit is counting your cals just from living and that is already included so you don't count those twice. Count your one hour of cardio. You are not over training at one hour if cardio

Warchortle

Probably not. I train that much, but I'll take a break when my central nervous system feels like ****. It's pretty hard to over train if you have a good program even if you train hard as **** in the gym.

MrGonzo05

Hi All,
I am wondering what you all think as to if I am training to much? The reason for asking is I continuously have a lot of calories left over at the end of the day to consume, Although I feel I am full enough to not need anymore to eat. I feel really full.
A quick snap shot. I am currently 83kg goal weight is 82kg. I am still soft around the stomach area.I wish to build definition and toning, I train 6 days a weeks as I enjoy it so much. Currently 3 days cardio & 3 days weights. I have been told I need to build more muscle mass to continue to loss the last stubborn fat areas around my stomach as muscle will burn more fat and I will continue to maintain a weight around the 82-84kg.
Below is an average day on MFP.
Goal 1640( this is to loss .5kg week), Food 1933, Exercise 1648 = 285 net. Calories remaining 1355. I continuously have over 1000 each day left over.
Currently using a fitbit as a step and exercise counter.

It's most likely wrong that you are burning 1648 calories via exercise per day. And if it's right, it will self regulate soon. Meaning that you won't be able to continue doing it.

tangy1

Hi All,
I am wondering what you all think as to if I am training to much? The reason for asking is I continuously have a lot of calories left over at the end of the day to consume, Although I feel I am full enough to not need anymore to eat. I feel really full.
A quick snap shot. I am currently 83kg goal weight is 82kg. I am still soft around the stomach area.I wish to build definition and toning, I train 6 days a weeks as I enjoy it so much. Currently 3 days cardio & 3 days weights. I have been told I need to build more muscle mass to continue to loss the last stubborn fat areas around my stomach as muscle will burn more fat and I will continue to maintain a weight around the 82-84kg.
Below is an average day on MFP.
Goal 1640( this is to loss .5kg week), Food 1933, Exercise 1648 = 285 net. Calories remaining 1355. I continuously have over 1000 each day left over.
Currently using a fitbit as a step and exercise counter.

It's most likely wrong that you are burning 1648 calories via exercise per day. And if it's right, it will self regulate soon. Meaning that you won't be able to continue doing it.

Yesterdays tally above included a very vigorous 1 hour of body attack. MFP has this in the exercise charts at 500+ cal burned for the hour. I have a very active job, Always on my feet walk at a steady pace not a stroll. I only sit to eat lunch. yesterday I covered 22,000 step as the fitbit, So i don't stop while at work.
Today I have covered 11,800 steps and have a few hours to go at work still.
I was also informed by people using a fitbit regularly that I need to set MFP activity to sedatory and allow all activity to be updated with the fitbit.

tangy1

Fitbits TDEE for the day today is 2957 calories at around 8pm. MFP is saying 1152 in FitBit calorie adjustment. Pretty sure all is accurate.

p4ulmiller

1600 burn for weightlifting? What are you doing on the gym? Running a half marathon on a treadmill with a 45 plate strapped to your back?

:laugh: