alcohol doesn't make you fat

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  • RosaliaBee
    RosaliaBee Posts: 146 Member
    There's a huge difference between saying "Alcohol doesn't make you fat" and "One glass of wine a night won't make you fat".
  • Myhaloslipped
    Myhaloslipped Posts: 4,317 Member
    There's a huge difference between saying "Alcohol doesn't make you fat" and "One glass of wine a night won't make you fat".

    Agreed. I hate these studies because they always fail to mention the multitude of other factors involved and just gloss over them and jump to the conclusion. Also, a large percentage of the population lacks the intelligence to make them realize that they shouldn't just use the results of these half-assed studies as an excuse to do whatever the hell they want and then blame "science" when they do not get the desired results. There was an article on facebook about how bacon makes you live longer because when they fed bacon to roundworms, the worms lived longer because of the niacin content. Obviously, it was a joke, but there are people who will take it seriously. Also, it would be awesome if bacon really did make you live longer. :smile:
  • hmaddpear
    hmaddpear Posts: 610 Member
    It's an article in the Daily Hate Mail. Surprisingly not one of their "We hate all women" articles. (You can tell it's read mostly by members of the Conservative Partys' wives.)

    In other words, the article is sensationalist rubbish. Whether or not the book is as well? No idea.
  • meeper123
    meeper123 Posts: 3,347 Member
    Anything will make you fat if you over induldge
  • Llamedos1960
    Llamedos1960 Posts: 78
    Gee ... what a surprise. Alcohol doesn't make you fat. Maybe someone should tell them that bread, sugar, fruit, meat, cake, sweets, cream ... (the list is endless) doesn't make you fat either. OVERINDULGING in them does.
  • BrainyBurro
    BrainyBurro Posts: 6,129 Member
    It's an article in the Daily Hate Mail. Surprisingly not one of their "We hate all women" articles. (You can tell it's read mostly by members of the Conservative Partys' wives.)

    In other words, the article is sensationalist rubbish. Whether or not the book is as well? No idea.

    based on your comment, you seem rather full of hate yourself. :huh:
  • Alpha12
    Alpha12 Posts: 251 Member
    Very little, when consumed in moderation will make you fat. It's when it's done to excess, that it becomes an issue.

    For me, one glass of wine leads to 3 or more, and then munchies set in. THAT's what makes ME fat. Not the one glass of wine. If I ever get serious about dropping the 30 lbs. I need to drop, I'll need to give up the wine completely. I'm slowly getting to this point, but not yet. :)
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,261 Member
    Disagree. Had a glass of red last night and woke up fat. It was an Argentinian wine, so that could explain it.
  • lovemuffin6
    lovemuffin6 Posts: 49
    I read that while a glass of red wine a night is very good for you because it has antioxidants in dark grape juice has all the same benefits without the alcohol! Although there have been studies that show if you drink in moderation you have an average life expectancy a few years higher than someone who's teetotal.
  • Myhaloslipped
    Myhaloslipped Posts: 4,317 Member
    http://newrisingmedia.com/all/2013/9/30/study-shows-eating-bacon-will-make-you-live-longer

    ^This "study" amused me this morning. I was even more amused by the number of people on facebook who initially believed it and decided that they were going to start eating copious amounts of bacon from now on. :laugh:
  • msf74
    msf74 Posts: 3,498 Member
    Although there have been studies that show if you drink in moderation you have an average life expectancy a few years higher than someone who's teetotal.

    That's probably because if I had to give up booze completely I would want to die a bit sooner as well...

    The problem with alcohol primarily is the problem with many foods deemed to be unhealthy - ease of over consumption.
  • Myhaloslipped
    Myhaloslipped Posts: 4,317 Member
    Although there have been studies that show if you drink in moderation you have an average life expectancy a few years higher than someone who's teetotal.

    That's probably because if I had to give up booze completely I would want to die a bit sooner as well...

    The problem with alcohol primarily is the problem with many foods deemed to be unhealthy - ease of over consumption.

    Haha also if I gave it up completely, someone might murder me because of my b****y attitude. :laugh:
  • rosemary98
    rosemary98 Posts: 632
    meant to post somewhere else.
  • hmaddpear
    hmaddpear Posts: 610 Member
    It's an article in the Daily Hate Mail. Surprisingly not one of their "We hate all women" articles. (You can tell it's read mostly by members of the Conservative Partys' wives.)

    In other words, the article is sensationalist rubbish. Whether or not the book is as well? No idea.

    based on your comment, you seem rather full of hate yourself. :huh:

    Not really, just really, really sick of the 'news' that the Daily Mail reports. I'm assuming you're not based in the UK (apologies, if you are), so you probably don't know the reputation paper has. They'll print anything as long as it brings in the sales / website hits. The problem is, there's a large contingent of (mostly) women who believe this kind of rubbish.

    (And yeah, the comment about Tory wives - reads wrong. It's actually true - The Daily Mail was always targetted towards women, and is right-wing, so the perfect paper for the Tory wife to read, while her husband either read the Times or the Financial Times, depending on whether he ran the country or owned it. :wink: The sad thing is that the Daily Mail promotes hatred and shaming of women.)

    Anyway, this is descending into a complete hijack of the thread, so I'll shut up now.
  • msf74
    msf74 Posts: 3,498 Member
    Not really, just really, really sick of the 'news' that the Daily Mail reports. I'm assuming you're not based in the UK (apologies, if you are), so you probably don't know the reputation paper has. They'll print anything as long as it brings in the sales / website hits. The problem is, there's a large contingent of (mostly) women who believe this kind of rubbish.

    I guess you have to be UK based to know what reputation The Wail has for responsible journalism. The following is a list compiled up to 2011 of the things The Wail has said may give you cancer:


    AGE
    AIR POLLUTION
    AIR TRAVEL
    ALCOHOL
    ALLERGIES
    ARTIFICIAL FLAVOURS
    ARTIFICIAL LIGHT
    ASBESTOS
    ASPIRIN
    BABIES
    BABY BOTTLES
    BABY FOOD
    BACON
    BARBEQUES
    BEEF
    BEER
    BEING A BLACK PERSON
    BEING A WOMAN
    BEING A MAN
    BEING SOUTHERN
    BISCUITS
    *kitten*
    BOTTLING UP EMOTIONS
    BRAS
    BREAD
    BREAST FEEDING
    BREAST IMPLANTS
    BROKEN HEARTS
    BUBBLE BATH
    BURGERS
    CAFFINE
    CALCUIM
    CANDLE-LIT DINNERS
    CANNED FOOD
    CARBOHYDRATES
    CARS
    CEREAL
    CHEESE
    CHICKEN
    CHILDLESSNESS
    CHILDREN
    CHILDREN’S FOOD
    CHILLIS
    CHINESE MEDICINE
    CHIPS
    CHIPS AGAIN
    CHLORINE
    CHOCOLATE
    CITY LIVING
    CLIMATE CHANGE
    COCA COLA
    COD LIVER OIL
    COFFEE
    CONSTAPATION
    CONTRACEPTIVE PILLS
    COOKING
    CORDLESS PHONES
    CRAYONS
    CURRY
    DEODRANT
    DIETING
    DOGS
    EGGS
    ELECTRICITY
    ENGLISH BREAKFAST
    FACEBOOK
    FALSE NAILS
    FATHERHOOD
    FIBRE
    FISH
    FLIP FLOPS
    FLY SPRAY
    FRUIT
    GARDENS
    GRAPEFRUIT
    HAIR DYE
    HAM
    HEIGHT
    HONEY
    HOT DRINKS
    HRT
    INTERNET
    IVF
    KIDNEY TRANSPLANTS
    LAMB
    LARGE HEADS
    LEFT-HANDEDNESS
    LIPSTICK
    LIVER TRANSPLANTS
    MENOPAUSE
    MENSTRUATION
    METAL
    MILK
    MOBILE PHONES
    MODERN LIVING
    MONEY
    MORPHINE
    MOUTHWASH
    NUCLEAR POWER
    OBESITY
    OESTROGEN
    OLDER FATHERs
    PASTRY
    PEANUT BUTTER
    PERFUME
    PICKLES
    PIZZA
    PLASTIC BAGS
    PORK
    POTATOES
    POVERTY
    PREGNANCY
    RADIOACTIVITY
    RICE
    SAUSAGES
    RETIREMENT
    SEX
    SHAVING
    SKIING
    SOUP
    SPACE TRAVEL
    SPOTS ON YOUR NOSE
    SUN CREAM
    TALCUM POWDER
    TEA
    TEEN SEX
    VITAMINS
    WATER
    WI-FI
    WORCESTERSHIRE SAUCE
    WORKING
    X-RAYS

    The original blog which summarised the list also had links to the articles. I guess a person needs to be worried if they are engaging in sex using wi fi and Worcestershire sauce...
  • LeanneGoingThin
    LeanneGoingThin Posts: 215 Member
    Anything will make you fat if you over induldge

    This. Anything that contributes to going over your calories could be making your fat. Usually it's the things that don't fit into a normal eating pattern, such as drinking on the weekends. So alcohol can definitely make you fat.
  • haroon_awan
    haroon_awan Posts: 1,208 Member
    Excess calories make you fat, whether it is through overconsumption or lack of exercise. It is an unquestionable scientific fact.
  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
    Things that make you fat: calories beyond what your body can burn

    Things that don't make you fat: everything else
  • neandermagnon
    neandermagnon Posts: 7,436 Member
    It's an article in the Daily Hate Mail. Surprisingly not one of their "We hate all women" articles. (You can tell it's read mostly by members of the Conservative Partys' wives.)

    In other words, the article is sensationalist rubbish. Whether or not the book is as well? No idea.

    based on your comment, you seem rather full of hate yourself. :huh:

    Not really, just really, really sick of the 'news' that the Daily Mail reports. I'm assuming you're not based in the UK (apologies, if you are), so you probably don't know the reputation paper has. They'll print anything as long as it brings in the sales / website hits. The problem is, there's a large contingent of (mostly) women who believe this kind of rubbish.

    (And yeah, the comment about Tory wives - reads wrong. It's actually true - The Daily Mail was always targetted towards women, and is right-wing, so the perfect paper for the Tory wife to read, while her husband either read the Times or the Financial Times, depending on whether he ran the country or owned it. :wink: The sad thing is that the Daily Mail promotes hatred and shaming of women.)

    Anyway, this is descending into a complete hijack of the thread, so I'll shut up now.

    I think most USA people won't know what a tory is.*

    I also hate the Daily Fail. You might enjoy this song:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eBT6OSr1TI

    ETA: *just a comment, I wouldn't expect Americans to know that, just as I don't know nicknames for USA political parties etc.
  • neandermagnon
    neandermagnon Posts: 7,436 Member
    nvm.... just enjoy the song
  • misschoppo
    misschoppo Posts: 463 Member
    Not really, just really, really sick of the 'news' that the Daily Mail reports. I'm assuming you're not based in the UK (apologies, if you are), so you probably don't know the reputation paper has. They'll print anything as long as it brings in the sales / website hits. The problem is, there's a large contingent of (mostly) women who believe this kind of rubbish.

    I guess you have to be UK based to know what reputation The Wail has for responsible journalism. The following is a list compiled up to 2011 of the things The Wail has said may give you cancer:


    AGE
    AIR POLLUTION
    AIR TRAVEL
    ALCOHOL
    ALLERGIES
    ARTIFICIAL FLAVOURS
    ARTIFICIAL LIGHT
    ASBESTOS
    ASPIRIN
    BABIES
    BABY BOTTLES
    BABY FOOD
    BACON
    BARBEQUES
    BEEF
    BEER
    BEING A BLACK PERSON
    BEING A WOMAN
    BEING A MAN
    BEING SOUTHERN
    BISCUITS
    *kitten*
    BOTTLING UP EMOTIONS
    BRAS
    BREAD
    BREAST FEEDING
    BREAST IMPLANTS
    BROKEN HEARTS
    BUBBLE BATH
    BURGERS
    CAFFINE
    CALCUIM
    CANDLE-LIT DINNERS
    CANNED FOOD
    CARBOHYDRATES
    CARS
    CEREAL
    CHEESE
    CHICKEN
    CHILDLESSNESS
    CHILDREN
    CHILDREN’S FOOD
    CHILLIS
    CHINESE MEDICINE
    CHIPS
    CHIPS AGAIN
    CHLORINE
    CHOCOLATE
    CITY LIVING
    CLIMATE CHANGE
    COCA COLA
    COD LIVER OIL
    COFFEE
    CONSTAPATION
    CONTRACEPTIVE PILLS
    COOKING
    CORDLESS PHONES
    CRAYONS
    CURRY
    DEODRANT
    DIETING
    DOGS
    EGGS
    ELECTRICITY
    ENGLISH BREAKFAST
    FACEBOOK
    FALSE NAILS
    FATHERHOOD
    FIBRE
    FISH
    FLIP FLOPS
    FLY SPRAY
    FRUIT
    GARDENS
    GRAPEFRUIT
    HAIR DYE
    HAM
    HEIGHT
    HONEY
    HOT DRINKS
    HRT
    INTERNET
    IVF
    KIDNEY TRANSPLANTS
    LAMB
    LARGE HEADS
    LEFT-HANDEDNESS
    LIPSTICK
    LIVER TRANSPLANTS
    MENOPAUSE
    MENSTRUATION
    METAL
    MILK
    MOBILE PHONES
    MODERN LIVING
    MONEY
    MORPHINE
    MOUTHWASH
    NUCLEAR POWER
    OBESITY
    OESTROGEN
    OLDER FATHERs
    PASTRY
    PEANUT BUTTER
    PERFUME
    PICKLES
    PIZZA
    PLASTIC BAGS
    PORK
    POTATOES
    POVERTY
    PREGNANCY
    RADIOACTIVITY
    RICE
    SAUSAGES
    RETIREMENT
    SEX
    SHAVING
    SKIING
    SOUP
    SPACE TRAVEL
    SPOTS ON YOUR NOSE
    SUN CREAM
    TALCUM POWDER
    TEA
    TEEN SEX
    VITAMINS
    WATER
    WI-FI
    WORCESTERSHIRE SAUCE
    WORKING
    X-RAYS

    The original blog which summarised the list also had links to the articles. I guess a person needs to be worried if they are engaging in sex using wi fi and Worcestershire sauce...

    :laugh:
  • tigersword
    tigersword Posts: 8,059 Member
    Gee ... what a surprise. Alcohol doesn't make you fat. Maybe someone should tell them that bread, sugar, fruit, meat, cake, sweets, cream ... (the list is endless) doesn't make you fat either. OVERINDULGING in them does.
    /thread
  • lilawolf
    lilawolf Posts: 1,690 Member
    Did anyone actually read the article? It's an excerpt from a book (The good news about booze by Tony Edwards) where there are lots of studies that are mentioned, including one that talks about 2 glasses of wine a day which isn't huge but is a respectable amount, though of course not one of them is linked (cuz no one reads that crap *sigh*)
    Here is another article on his claims that talk about other health effects which is interesting:
    http://lifestyle.iaf.pfn.bz/wellness/888768.html

    Unfortunately, I can't find links to any of these studies either.

    If a lot of my calories come from alcohol (say in Vegas), I tend to lose more than expected even after I rehydrate. N=1.
  • jonnyman41
    jonnyman41 Posts: 1,032 Member
    in the words of a song (replace alcohol with guns) alcohol doesn't make you fat you do!!!! It is all about moderation

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