Diet vs Proper Nutrition.
ChristineGoBrigands
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I've just run over MyFitnessPal's topics and I have a serious question for you all. Do you really think that being healthy and having a beautiful, strong body could ever be achieved by some Atkins or Soup or 2-days detox diet? Are you even serious? Maintaining a healthy body is all about turning your life healthy. You have to read, learn and practice everything that helps you. Of course you can eat olive oil. Yes, I know there are so many kcals in it but it's healthy. You're not going to gulp down 100 avocados a day, because you're going to be super fat, but yes! they're healthy food! You have to eat everything, just smaller portions of some. Okay, McDonalds aren't in my list, but it won't kill you if you taste them every now and then. Eat everything, but eat responsibly. Quit your junk eating habits. Don't drink that much alcohol. It's empty kcals. Eat fruits, vegetables, meat, healthy fatty acids and add some exercise up. Give your body some serious workouts 3 to 4 times per week and fuel it up so that it can recover.
If you turn your life into this plan, then you'll have the sexiest body ever. You'll be strong and healthy and it's going to be safe! Don't destroy your metabolism by eating soups for a week or by only eating fruits for a month. I guess you know that this kind of "diet" is not a real one. I think you know that you are only losing muscle tone and have to work twice as hard when you'll gain these pounds back.
Do not be afraid to eat! Eat fully. I've only started losing weight when I actually started eating. You know what does it take to fill a 1200 calories day? I'm actually eating the whole day and dropping pounds! I could eat a 1200 kcals pizza. That's true... You know what? That's only 6 slices of my favorite pizza! I could eat that in like 15 mins. Instead, I choose to eat clean and I actually feel full all day long, rather than eating junk and starve throughout the rest of the day!
So, if you really want to drop those extra pounds (and stay that way), start eating and choose wisely!
If you turn your life into this plan, then you'll have the sexiest body ever. You'll be strong and healthy and it's going to be safe! Don't destroy your metabolism by eating soups for a week or by only eating fruits for a month. I guess you know that this kind of "diet" is not a real one. I think you know that you are only losing muscle tone and have to work twice as hard when you'll gain these pounds back.
Do not be afraid to eat! Eat fully. I've only started losing weight when I actually started eating. You know what does it take to fill a 1200 calories day? I'm actually eating the whole day and dropping pounds! I could eat a 1200 kcals pizza. That's true... You know what? That's only 6 slices of my favorite pizza! I could eat that in like 15 mins. Instead, I choose to eat clean and I actually feel full all day long, rather than eating junk and starve throughout the rest of the day!
So, if you really want to drop those extra pounds (and stay that way), start eating and choose wisely!
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I agree 100%0
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Sounds right to me...there's no reason to starve yourself! People laugh when you tell them that you eat 5-6 times each day and still manage to lose weight! Next question - what are you taking?
I used to hate that one
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I fully agree with you! It's not just about calories and your body needs the fuel.It's about giving it food that will actually help your body to function properly.0
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Sorry, not giving up my Timmies and vodka. Your so-called "junk" is what keeps my mentality semi-healthy.
Edit: Sentence structure needed reworded to make better sense.0 -
I'm positive I could get a sexy body eating only soups. I don't know why you hate soup. Cabbage soup? Sure but with the massive variety of soups out there and the endless number of ingredients that can go into them, soup is fine. Now that winter is getting here, the majority of my meals will be soups because it's comfort food when it's freezing outside, for me anyway.
And I love vodka and beer. Will not be getting rid of those anytime soon.
Come to think of it, I should make some beer cheese soup this weekend. Yum.0 -
You don't need to eat clean to be healthy, or to lose weight...0
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I'll keep my junk food and still get the body I want. Thanks though. I'd rather be dirty and happy than clean and miserable. :bigsmile:0
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I could eat a 1200 kcals pizza. That's true... You know what? That's only 6 slices of my favorite pizza! I could eat that in like 15 mins. Instead, I choose to eat clean and I actually feel full all day long, rather than eating junk and starve throughout the rest of the day!
So, if you really want to drop those extra pounds (and stay that way), start eating and choose wisely!
*snip*
OR you could have two slices of your favorite pizza (Im jealous it's only 200 calories Btw), meet your macros and stay within your calorie goal AND look hot and maintain a sexy bod. Talk about having your cake and eating it too!0 -
I could eat a 1200 kcals pizza. That's true... You know what? That's only 6 slices of my favorite pizza! I could eat that in like 15 mins. Instead, I choose to eat clean and I actually feel full all day long, rather than eating junk and starve throughout the rest of the day!
So, if you really want to drop those extra pounds (and stay that way), start eating and choose wisely!
*snip*
OR you could have two slices of your favorite pizza (Im jealous it's only 200 calories Btw), meet your macros and stay within your calorie goal AND look hot and maintain a sexy bod. Talk about having your cake and eating it too!
^This, you don't have to eat 100% junk food or 100% "clean" food, eat whatever you want that has you hitting your macro and calorie goals, and you'll get the body you want0 -
Well, I understand that everyone needs something to hang on to, so that he can be... mentally healthy... That's gym to me, actually. It can be vodka, or Big Macs or Pizza Hut or Pop Tarts, or Dr.Pepper, or whatever, but don't expect to get there ( http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kCtLh2C1n6o/TMp-zhRgQ7I/AAAAAAAACl0/HvLSaAV1kdk/s1600/Kathy Feldman 2.jpg ) any time soon. Of course, everything depends on each one's personal goals. You could answer back, telling me that you would never care about having such a body and that's perfectly okay with me.
brower I have nothing against soups. I was talking about that eat-only-this-and-you'll-be-skinny-in-a-week soup diets, or any super-duper-you-only-need-me diet. Soups are fun and if you add many ingredients you can add flavor and take everything you need from them.
About alcohol. It gives you nothing but calories. I'd rather eat smart. I'm human though, as mentioned before, I know what junk tastes like and of course I like it, but I chose wisely (most of the times).
AJ_G how can you be healthy without eating clean? What kind of "non clean" eating keeps you healthy? If the bacteria won't eat it, why would you? Also, you need clean eating to safely lose weight and maintain your goal weight once you've achieved it.
That "miserable" thingie is what people that can't get there say? I don't lower others' goals, but you know how quotes like "I prefer having a pot belly and be happy about it than being miserable eating healthy, being strong and reaching goals at the gym" sound like, right? I mean, everyone could be at a bar instead of being at the gym. Why do some people pick the gym? It's harder and all sweaty and it doesn't taste as good as beer, right? Well...
Phoenix_Warri I do it all the time. I'm not only eating veggies. I'm a food lover, not a hater. This post was all about inspiring people not to quit eating, thinking that they're going to lose weight anyway. Everything is good, in the right portion! Actually homemade pizza is pretty much my favorite part of my nutrition.
To sum up, my first post was about food and how someone could be healthy through nutrition. I didn't say skinny, but healthy. Of course you can be skinny (fat) without any exercise or clean eating, but that doesn't mean you're healthy or fit or whatever.
You're ok with that belly or flabby arms? That's perfect! It's YOUR body and you can make it whatever you want. And it's really good feeling good with your body. Not having any doctors' prescriptions doesn't mean you're healthy though. Adopting healthy eating habits is what will keep you healthy (and maybe some lifting could fill in vodka's gap).0 -
I could eat a 1200 kcals pizza. That's true... You know what? That's only 6 slices of my favorite pizza! I could eat that in like 15 mins. Instead, I choose to eat clean and I actually feel full all day long, rather than eating junk and starve throughout the rest of the day!
So, if you really want to drop those extra pounds (and stay that way), start eating and choose wisely!
*snip*
OR you could have two slices of your favorite pizza (Im jealous it's only 200 calories Btw), meet your macros and stay within your calorie goal AND look hot and maintain a sexy bod. Talk about having your cake and eating it too!
^This, you don't have to eat 100% junk food or 100% "clean" food, eat whatever you want that has you hitting your macro and calorie goals, and you'll get the body you want
Sorry Christine but I agree with this. And I know multiple people who are extremely healthy and do not eat clean. They eat whatever they want, mostly in moderation, and they work out.0 -
Do you really think that being healthy and having a beautiful, strong body could ever be achieved by some Atkins diet?
Yes.Are you even serious?
Yes.So, if you really want to drop those extra pounds (and stay that way), start eating and choose wisely!
Nice sentiment. And quite true.0 -
Well, I understand that everyone needs something to hang on to, so that he can be... mentally healthy... That's gym to me, actually. It can be vodka, or Big Macs or Pizza Hut or Pop Tarts, or Dr.Pepper, or whatever, but don't expect to get there ( http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kCtLh2C1n6o/TMp-zhRgQ7I/AAAAAAAACl0/HvLSaAV1kdk/s1600/Kathy Feldman 2.jpg ) any time soon. Of course, everything depends on each one's personal goals. You could answer back, telling me that you would never care about having such a body and that's perfectly okay with me.
brower I have nothing against soups. I was talking about that eat-only-this-and-you'll-be-skinny-in-a-week soup diets, or any super-duper-you-only-need-me diet. Soups are fun and if you add many ingredients you can add flavor and take everything you need from them.
About alcohol. It gives you nothing but calories. I'd rather eat smart. I'm human though, as mentioned before, I know what junk tastes like and of course I like it, but I chose wisely (most of the times).
AJ_G how can you be healthy without eating clean? What kind of "non clean" eating keeps you healthy? If the bacteria won't eat it, why would you? Also, you need clean eating to safely lose weight and maintain your goal weight once you've achieved it.
That "miserable" thingie is what people that can't get there say? I don't lower others' goals, but you know how quotes like "I prefer having a pot belly and be happy about it than being miserable eating healthy, being strong and reaching goals at the gym" sound like, right? I mean, everyone could be at a bar instead of being at the gym. Why do some people pick the gym? It's harder and all sweaty and it doesn't taste as good as beer, right? Well...
Phoenix_Warri I do it all the time. I'm not only eating veggies. I'm a food lover, not a hater. This post was all about inspiring people not to quit eating, thinking that they're going to lose weight anyway. Everything is good, in the right portion! Actually homemade pizza is pretty much my favorite part of my nutrition.
To sum up, my first post was about food and how someone could be healthy through nutrition. I didn't say skinny, but healthy. Of course you can be skinny (fat) without any exercise or clean eating, but that doesn't mean you're healthy or fit or whatever.
You're ok with that belly or flabby arms? That's perfect! It's YOUR body and you can make it whatever you want. And it's really good feeling good with your body. Not having any doctors' prescriptions doesn't mean you're healthy though. Adopting healthy eating habits is what will keep you healthy (and maybe some lifting could fill in vodka's gap).
If you're okay with how other people treat their bodies, then why are you deriding our decisions? You don't want to eat donuts or cake or hell, even chocolate a few days a week, then don't. But please don't come off acting superior to me because I do eat those things. That's how your posts read to me, at least.
I don't want to look like Kathy Feldman. I want to lose enough weight that my doctor will treat my health problems rather than fobbing them off on being fat, because, apparently, thin people don't have high BP and glaucoma :huh:. I want to be small enough to buy clothes without spending a butt ton of money. I can achieve weight loss without cutting out the foods I like, so why do so? It didn't work in the past.0 -
Well, I understand that everyone needs something to hang on to, so that he can be... mentally healthy... That's gym to me, actually. It can be vodka, or Big Macs or Pizza Hut or Pop Tarts, or Dr.Pepper, or whatever, but don't expect to get there ( http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kCtLh2C1n6o/TMp-zhRgQ7I/AAAAAAAACl0/HvLSaAV1kdk/s1600/Kathy Feldman 2.jpg ) any time soon. Of course, everything depends on each one's personal goals. You could answer back, telling me that you would never care about having such a body and that's perfectly okay with me.
brower I have nothing against soups. I was talking about that eat-only-this-and-you'll-be-skinny-in-a-week soup diets, or any super-duper-you-only-need-me diet. Soups are fun and if you add many ingredients you can add flavor and take everything you need from them.
About alcohol. It gives you nothing but calories. I'd rather eat smart. I'm human though, as mentioned before, I know what junk tastes like and of course I like it, but I chose wisely (most of the times).
AJ_G how can you be healthy without eating clean? What kind of "non clean" eating keeps you healthy? If the bacteria won't eat it, why would you? Also, you need clean eating to safely lose weight and maintain your goal weight once you've achieved it.
That "miserable" thingie is what people that can't get there say? I don't lower others' goals, but you know how quotes like "I prefer having a pot belly and be happy about it than being miserable eating healthy, being strong and reaching goals at the gym" sound like, right? I mean, everyone could be at a bar instead of being at the gym. Why do some people pick the gym? It's harder and all sweaty and it doesn't taste as good as beer, right? Well...
Phoenix_Warri I do it all the time. I'm not only eating veggies. I'm a food lover, not a hater. This post was all about inspiring people not to quit eating, thinking that they're going to lose weight anyway. Everything is good, in the right portion! Actually homemade pizza is pretty much my favorite part of my nutrition.
To sum up, my first post was about food and how someone could be healthy through nutrition. I didn't say skinny, but healthy. Of course you can be skinny (fat) without any exercise or clean eating, but that doesn't mean you're healthy or fit or whatever.
You're ok with that belly or flabby arms? That's perfect! It's YOUR body and you can make it whatever you want. And it's really good feeling good with your body. Not having any doctors' prescriptions doesn't mean you're healthy though. Adopting healthy eating habits is what will keep you healthy (and maybe some lifting could fill in vodka's gap).
If you're okay with how other people treat their bodies, then why are you deriding our decisions? You don't want to eat donuts or cake or hell, even chocolate a few days a week, then don't. But please don't come off acting superior to me because I do eat those things. That's how your posts read to me, at least.
I don't want to look like Kathy Feldman. I want to lose enough weight that my doctor will treat my health problems rather than fobbing them off on being fat, because, apparently, thin people don't have high BP and glaucoma :huh:. I want to be small enough to buy clothes without spending a butt ton of money. I can achieve weight loss without cutting out the foods I like, so why do so? It didn't work in the past.
exactly. if the OP is happy wih her food choices then why should she care about what other people eat or how they approach their eating?
seriously OP, do you get a $25 gift card to amazon every time someone avoids the cabbage soup diet or something?0 -
About alcohol. It gives you nothing but calories. I'd rather eat smart. I'm human though, as mentioned before, I know what junk tastes like and of course I like it, but I chose wisely (most of the times).
Truth be told, it is not alcohol per say that makes you fat......it is the other foods you consume that do it.
When you take in alcohol, your body does everything it can to get rid of it fast......so it oxidizes that over fat/prot/carbs.....
So if your body is busy with that, it will store the excess calories from the other macros.
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/nutrient-intake-nutrient-storage-and-nutrient-oxidation.htmlAlcohol
And, finally, as noted above, there is absolutely no store of alcohol in the body. None whatsoever. Effectively, alcohol is seen as a sort of metabolic ‘toxin’ or ‘poison’ to the body. And this means that alcohol oxidation is 100% perfect, that is, the body will effectively do everything in its power to get rid of the alcohol increasing alcohol oxidation to maximum (which means decreasing the oxidation of other nutrients consumed with that alcohol) so that the alcohol can be gotten rid of.
I’m going to ask readers not to read anything into the above paragraph, don’t infer or try to draw conclusions about how alcohol might or mightn’t fit into the diet in terms of anything. As it turns out, alcohol is an oddity among nutrients with seemingly contradictory effects on things. I’m going to address that in detail in a forthcoming article and, for now, just take the above as some much needed background information.0 -
Kinda milk toast and not really saying much.0
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exactly. if the OP is happy wih her food choices then why should she care about what other people eat or how they approach their eating?
seriously OP, do you get a $25 gift card to amazon every time someone avoids the cabbage soup diet or something?
Because we're in a Food and Nutrition forum. That's what people do here. Talk about it.0 -
Do you really think that being healthy and having a beautiful, strong body could ever be achieved by Atkins
Yes0 -
I've just run over MyFitnessPal's topics and I have a serious question for you all. Do you really think that being healthy and having a beautiful, strong body could ever be achieved by some Atkins?
Yup, I've lost body fat percentage, gained muscle, and have amazing blood tests, all by eating almost exclusively bacon cheeseburgers fried in butter with no bun or vegetables, and a spoonful of coconut oil as dessert.So, if you really want to drop those extra pounds (and stay that way), start eating and choose wisely!
Thanks, I did! KETO FO LYFE MAFUKA!0 -
you should have been a brain surgeon.0
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I can eat what I want and still loose weight. If my wife wants pizza I will eat one too. No need to make her suffer cause I want to loose weight. If I eat a little less the rest of the day I will still be within my calories. Same with chocolate, ice-cream, cake, sweets and what ever. Just do a little more sports or eat less and you are still fine. And by the way it helps me stay motivated. 0
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I've just run over MyFitnessPal's topics and I have a serious question for you all. Do you really think that being healthy and having a beautiful, strong body could ever be achieved by some Atkins or Soup or 2-days detox diet? Are you even serious? Maintaining a healthy body is all about turning your life healthy. You have to read, learn and practice everything that helps you. Of course you can eat olive oil. Yes, I know there are so many kcals in it but it's healthy. You're not going to gulp down 100 avocados a day, because you're going to be super fat, but yes! they're healthy food! You have to eat everything, just smaller portions of some. Okay, McDonalds aren't in my list, but it won't kill you if you taste them every now and then. Eat everything, but eat responsibly. Quit your junk eating habits. Don't drink that much alcohol. It's empty kcals. Eat fruits, vegetables, meat, healthy fatty acids and add some exercise up. Give your body some serious workouts 3 to 4 times per week and fuel it up so that it can recover.
If you turn your life into this plan, then you'll have the sexiest body ever. You'll be strong and healthy and it's going to be safe! Don't destroy your metabolism by eating soups for a week or by only eating fruits for a month. I guess you know that this kind of "diet" is not a real one. I think you know that you are only losing muscle tone and have to work twice as hard when you'll gain these pounds back.
Do not be afraid to eat! Eat fully. I've only started losing weight when I actually started eating. You know what does it take to fill a 1200 calories day? I'm actually eating the whole day and dropping pounds! I could eat a 1200 kcals pizza. That's true... You know what? That's only 6 slices of my favorite pizza! I could eat that in like 15 mins. Instead, I choose to eat clean and I actually feel full all day long, rather than eating junk and starve throughout the rest of the day!
So, if you really want to drop those extra pounds (and stay that way), start eating and choose wisely!
Yawn........so old and tiresome.
I know several people in particular that are on the ATKINS LIFESTYLE..........its not a diet and have maintained their weightloss for years.
One in particular is Sheila. There is no way you can tell me she looks or is remotely unhealthy and she has lived the Atkins Lifestyle for over 10 years.
http://www.sugarfreesheila.com/faq/0 -
I think, not to be redundant to get a beautiful body, just because you want a beautiful body until you make miserable. eat what you want will not make you fat as long as it regularly and do not eat to excess0
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I'm with you! Unless it's a lifestyle change, diets like the ones you mentioned are just setting people up to fail.0
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Nothing worse than a born again healthy person. Want this obsession with what other people do? Do what works for you and get over yourself0
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Do you really think that being healthy and having a beautiful, strong body could ever be achieved by Atkins
Yes
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If someone is getting in their correct macro/micros to support their TDEE and physical activities along with staying in control of their calories, then eating "clean" isn't a prerequisite.
For 30 years now, I've eaten an 80/20 diet along with skipping breakfast and having fast food a couple of times a week. Impact on my health during this time.....................none. I'm no different in my health than I was in my 20's (with the exception of recovery time due to aging).
I do agree that nutrition matters. But I do disagree that "clean" eating is the only approach that one needs to do to achieve it.
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