New food style? is it good or bad?

sloth3toes

my counter suggests that I eat 1200 calories, and I already eat around 800 so it is kinda close.

Ummmm, no..... 800 calories is NOT kinda close to 1200. And I fooled around with a calorie needs calculator, and even inputting your height at 4 ft tall, it said you need more than 1200 calories per day. I'd be VERY interested to know what settings you entered to get MFP to tell you you eat 1200 calories per day.

For someone 4 feet tall the base amount is almost always under 1200. Not much ( the average is 1147 ) and for a person like me ( 5 feet tall) it is usually 50-70 calories a day more, which means it's right around 1200 calories, based on light activity. Even exercising every day does not give hundreds and hundreds of calories more on a daily basis unless the person exercises several hours. And I am talking about the average weight loss beginner now, not about those people who live in the gym and can eat 12 doughnuts a day and brag about it. The bad thing with MFP is that if someone choses to lose 2 pounds a week they are told to eat 1200 calories, which is foolish, because a very heavy person can lose 2 pounds a week by eating more than 1200 calories. It seems that the starting weight of a person, be it 400 pounds or 149 really does not seem to matter for the MFP calculator.....that is wrong. I would not blame a newcomer if they follow what MFP tells them to do.

OK, so I should hold my judgement, until the OP explains what he inputted, so that MFP told him to eat 1200 calories per day.

7L551

my counter suggests that I eat 1200 calories, and I already eat around 800 so it is kinda close.

Ummmm, no..... 800 calories is NOT kinda close to 1200. And I fooled around with a calorie needs calculator, and even inputting your height at 4 ft tall, it said you need more than 1200 calories per day. I'd be VERY interested to know what settings you entered to get MFP to tell you you eat 1200 calories per day.

For someone 4 feet tall the base amount is almost always under 1200. Not much ( the average is 1147 ) and for a person like me ( 5 feet tall) it is usually 50-70 calories a day more, which means it's right around 1200 calories, based on light activity. Even exercising every day does not give hundreds and hundreds of calories more on a daily basis unless the person exercises several hours. And I am talking about the average weight loss beginner now, not about those people who live in the gym and can eat 12 doughnuts a day and brag about it. The bad thing with MFP is that if someone choses to lose 2 pounds a week they are told to eat 1200 calories, which is foolish, because a very heavy person can lose 2 pounds a week by eating more than 1200 calories. It seems that the starting weight of a person, be it 400 pounds or 149 really does not seem to matter for the MFP calculator.....that is wrong. I would not blame a newcomer if they follow what MFP tells them to do.

OK, so I should hold my judgement, until the OP explains what he inputted, so that MFP told him to eat 1200 calories per day.

Sorry I was outside of my house for a long day.
So I did change to my current weight and settings, some stuff were like almost a year and half old about my situation and my old weight goal was 75 kg I changed it to 65 and adjusted the hours at the gym for 3hrs 3 days per week to 2 hrs (Yeah I know WTF 3 hours?) That was the old system and I did not like spending 2 hours on the elliptical :P
Currently lightly active and changed it from Not active.
hieght is the same as before: 178 cm
Anyways, It used to be around 1200 but now it went up to 1410 per day, that is an increase
Also I asked the system to lose 1 KG per week, so that might be the reason.

Thanks for your suggestions though, I really appreciate it
P.S I love your name and pictures XD

7L551

Well I tried multiple ideas, the easiest one was that I'd stop fast food for 2-4 weeks straight (I used to eat once every week consisting of 1 medium pizza or so) so then I tried home made food, thats the hard thing about home made food though, you can't really calculate it, but again I was only eating 1 meal for the day (just like now) and it mostly consisted of half a plate of rice and the other half was mostly vegetables (leafs or beans or you know anything veggie) with a very small bit of raw cooked meet. and that would be my meal for the day as well.
when I tried the routine I did not drink but diet coke as well so it is not something that I drink or eat beside this food.

How can you not really calculate home made food? Homemade food is what I make and imo it's the easiest to calculate. Weigh the ingredients, build the recipe on MFP and divide by number of servings. Easy peasy.

well I tried to explain this before, but I live with a family, so I don't cook my personal food and the food that is made is made in a big pan for 6-9 people and might even stay for the next day, so the ingredients are not accurate BUT anyways, I'll give you an example of what I am right now going to eat at around 5:30 PM
Half a plate of rice (round it up to 2 cups of white cooked rice) and the other half (so 2 other cups) of string beans with fresh cut tomatoes, garlic and small cuts of meet (small amount really less than a hand full of cut meet)
So that is mostly my daily food for the whole day. so you tell me, is this more than 1400 calories?

Mokey41

hieght is the same as before: 178 cm
Anyways, It used to be around 1200 but now it went up to 1410 per day, that is an increase
Also I asked the system to lose 1 KG per week, so that might be the reason.

Still no. An adult male needs to be taking in at least 1800 calories a day. 1 kg is 2.2 lbs, not cool.

You still aren't getting how this all works. Your activity level as far as exercise is not included when you input it into your goals. That's just an incentive to have you do the workouts you say you will if you go into the exercise tab. It doesn't add any calories to the budget MFP gives you no matter what you put there.

Choosing lightly active gives you a few more calories because it's based on your job and assumes you do work that has you moving around most of the day but not doing heavy lifting or strenuous work.

You use the Food tab to input your food. If you think you ate 2 cups of cooked rice then log that, log the number of grams of meat you think you ate, log the vegetables that went with it. What you described is nowhere near 1400 calories.

You can do whatever you want but what you're describing isn't healthy.

KANGOOJUMPS

well, you are a CANUCK
so I must be kind.

PikaKnight

my counter suggests that I eat 1200 calories, and I already eat around 800 so it is kinda close.

Ummmm, no..... 800 calories is NOT kinda close to 1200. And I fooled around with a calorie needs calculator, and even inputting your height at 4 ft tall, it said you need more than 1200 calories per day. I'd be VERY interested to know what settings you entered to get MFP to tell you you eat 1200 calories per day.

For someone 4 feet tall the base amount is almost always under 1200. Not much ( the average is 1147 ) and for a person like me ( 5 feet tall) it is usually 50-70 calories a day more, which means it's right around 1200 calories, based on light activity. Even exercising every day does not give hundreds and hundreds of calories more on a daily basis unless the person exercises several hours. And I am talking about the average weight loss beginner now, not about those people who live in the gym and can eat 12 doughnuts a day and brag about it. The bad thing with MFP is that if someone choses to lose 2 pounds a week they are told to eat 1200 calories, which is foolish, because a very heavy person can lose 2 pounds a week by eating more than 1200 calories. It seems that the starting weight of a person, be it 400 pounds or 149 really does not seem to matter for the MFP calculator.....that is wrong. I would not blame a newcomer if they follow what MFP tells them to do.

OK, so I should hold my judgement, until the OP explains what he inputted, so that MFP told him to eat 1200 calories per day.

Sorry I was outside of my house for a long day.
So I did change to my current weight and settings, some stuff were like almost a year and half old about my situation and my old weight goal was 75 kg I changed it to 65 and adjusted the hours at the gym for 3hrs 3 days per week to 2 hrs (Yeah I know WTF 3 hours?) That was the old system and I did not like spending 2 hours on the elliptical :P
Currently lightly active and changed it from Not active.
hieght is the same as before: 178 cm
Anyways, It used to be around 1200 but now it went up to 1410 per day, that is an increase
Also I asked the system to lose 1 KG per week, so that might be the reason.

Thanks for your suggestions though, I really appreciate it
P.S I love your name and pictures XD

You are 5'8....eating 800 cals a day.

Please eat more and perhaps see a doctor just in case.

7L551

hieght is the same as before: 178 cm
Anyways, It used to be around 1200 but now it went up to 1410 per day, that is an increase
Also I asked the system to lose 1 KG per week, so that might be the reason.

Still no. An adult male needs to be taking in at least 1800 calories a day. 1 kg is 2.2 lbs, not cool.

You still aren't getting how this all works. Your activity level as far as exercise is not included when you input it into your goals. That's just an incentive to have you do the workouts you say you will if you go into the exercise tab. It doesn't add any calories to the budget MFP gives you no matter what you put there.

Choosing lightly active gives you a few more calories because it's based on your job and assumes you do work that has you moving around most of the day but not doing heavy lifting or strenuous work.

You use the Food tab to input your food. If you think you ate 2 cups of cooked rice then log that, log the number of grams of meat you think you ate, log the vegetables that went with it. What you described is nowhere near 1400 calories.

You can do whatever you want but what you're describing isn't healthy.

Ok I just did input the food I ate, now it appears that I barely got any sugars for my day, so should I like buy a candy bar and eat it to increase both calories and sugars?. I mean you hear people telling you to avoid sugars and stuff like that, but should I be looking at the information given and try to eat everything that I am messing to reach the at least 1400 calories?
Thanks

7L551

well, you are a CANUCK
so I must be kind.

Much appreciated, Thanks

7L551

my counter suggests that I eat 1200 calories, and I already eat around 800 so it is kinda close.

Ummmm, no..... 800 calories is NOT kinda close to 1200. And I fooled around with a calorie needs calculator, and even inputting your height at 4 ft tall, it said you need more than 1200 calories per day. I'd be VERY interested to know what settings you entered to get MFP to tell you you eat 1200 calories per day.

For someone 4 feet tall the base amount is almost always under 1200. Not much ( the average is 1147 ) and for a person like me ( 5 feet tall) it is usually 50-70 calories a day more, which means it's right around 1200 calories, based on light activity. Even exercising every day does not give hundreds and hundreds of calories more on a daily basis unless the person exercises several hours. And I am talking about the average weight loss beginner now, not about those people who live in the gym and can eat 12 doughnuts a day and brag about it. The bad thing with MFP is that if someone choses to lose 2 pounds a week they are told to eat 1200 calories, which is foolish, because a very heavy person can lose 2 pounds a week by eating more than 1200 calories. It seems that the starting weight of a person, be it 400 pounds or 149 really does not seem to matter for the MFP calculator.....that is wrong. I would not blame a newcomer if they follow what MFP tells them to do.

OK, so I should hold my judgement, until the OP explains what he inputted, so that MFP told him to eat 1200 calories per day.

Sorry I was outside of my house for a long day.
So I did change to my current weight and settings, some stuff were like almost a year and half old about my situation and my old weight goal was 75 kg I changed it to 65 and adjusted the hours at the gym for 3hrs 3 days per week to 2 hrs (Yeah I know WTF 3 hours?) That was the old system and I did not like spending 2 hours on the elliptical :P
Currently lightly active and changed it from Not active.
hieght is the same as before: 178 cm
Anyways, It used to be around 1200 but now it went up to 1410 per day, that is an increase
Also I asked the system to lose 1 KG per week, so that might be the reason.

Thanks for your suggestions though, I really appreciate it
P.S I love your name and pictures XD

You are 5'8....eating 800 cals a day.

Please eat more and perhaps see a doctor just in case.

will try my best to eat much more atleast to 1400. I'll follow your advice guys.
Family doctor will probably just send me back home and tell me not to worry XD, I think it is time to check the walk in clinic doctor :O

Mokey41

The sugar number is a number to stay under not a number to try to reach. Forget the candy bar and find some real food to eat. I'm right across the lake from you, don't make me have to come kick you *kitten*!

3foldchord

You both are right, but I am not cooking my own food :S And you know when I ask the person who cooks it kinda gets mad :P
Anyways, even if I knew the food that was being cooked, I can't change it I live with my family so asking to change the food style is kinda rude and she won't do it.
That is why I decided to make grilled chicken and a salad BUT, now that you guys said it I'll start making my own food I guess or atleast eat more from outside?
But I really wanna try this new method for atleast a week XD

Are you going to be making your own food now?Good Idea! My son is 20 and I would not find it rude at all if he just made his own food . (Though that is different than asking me to change what I cook! but I am fine with that occasionally! too) He does actually cook his own foods half the time, he has evening classes 2-3 nights a week.... But it usually consists of heating up left overs...LOL..

fruttibiscotti

Here's how to lose weight - eat REAL food, minimize the processed junk. Also, a strategy that works for me is adjusting the macronutrients to represent approx 10% carbs, 20% protein and 70% fat.

Here's a before and after depiction of what that would look like.

BEFORE:

Breakfast:
Nestle Canada - Nesquik Cereal With 125ml 2% Milk, 1 cup

AFTER:

Fried egg and slices of bacon

BEFORE:

Salad- Greek (No Pita) - Tomatoes, Black Olives, Red Pepper, Cucumbers, Onions, Feta, 343 g

Renee's - Half-Fat Caesar Dressing, 86 ml pouch

Grilled Chicken breast

Pepsi - Max 355ml Can, 355 ml

AFTER:

Salad- Greek (No Pita) - Tomatoes, Black Olives, Red Pepper, Cucumbers, Onions, Feta, 343 g

Extra virgin olive oil and your favorite vinegar (apple cider, red wine, balsamic, etc) or lemon juice

Chicken thigh with skin

Water or tea or coffee

3foldchord

Here's how to lose weight -

-eat less calories than you burn.

_EndGame_

If you're maintaining weight with your food choices, then try eating less, as opposed to changing up your entire food choices.

sloth3toes

So I did change to my current weight and settings, 65 kg gym for 3 days per week 2 hrs
Currently lightly active and changed it from Not active.
hieght is the same as before: 178 cm
1410 per day, t
Also I asked the system to lose 1 KG per week

Sorry, I think in lbs... even though I am Canadian.

65 KG is 143 lbs according to Google. If you're 5'8" as another poster did the math.... and your ticker indicates you want to lose about another 40 lbs.... I have to assume that you're currently around 185 ( lbs ) 'ish?'

The 1 kg per week thing, seems way too aggressive. What I'd like to see you do, is plug in 1 lb or 1/2 kg per week, weight loss, and see what number that gives you.

ETA.... I'm 5'8 too... and I can't imagine being 143 lbs. I'm still skinny-fat, but, dieting off another 20 lbs, I just can't imagine.....

7L551

So I did change to my current weight and settings, 65 kg gym for 3 days per week 2 hrs
Currently lightly active and changed it from Not active.
hieght is the same as before: 178 cm
1410 per day, t
Also I asked the system to lose 1 KG per week

Sorry, I think in lbs... even though I am Canadian.

65 KG is 143 lbs according to Google. If you're 5'8" as another poster did the math.... and your ticker indicates you want to lose about another 40 lbs.... I have to assume that you're currently around 185 ( lbs ) 'ish?'

The 1 kg per week thing, seems way too aggressive. What I'd like to see you do, is plug in 1 lb or 1/2 kg per week, weight loss, and see what number that gives you.

ETA.... I'm 5'8 too... and I can't imagine being 143 lbs. I'm still skinny-fat, but, dieting off another 20 lbs, I just can't imagine.....

Thanks, you are exactly right, I am currently around 185 lbs, but to be completely honest, I don't want to just lose the fat and then stop. I want to build muscles and have six abs (lol) but I am not sure when I should stop with my weight loss journey (or reduce it a lot).
I was around 216 lbs when I started and managed to reduce it to 185 but now as you said it seems way much harder.
So am not sure if I should keep on going for an hour on the Elliptical or double that or instead reduce it to 30 min and spend the rest of the time with weights and dumbells OR a third new option is to replace Elliptical with Cardio circuit training like Insanity (Shaun T) or maybe you have something else in mind.

Also I just changed the weekly goal to 0.5 kg and my counter jumped up to 1960 :O :O. I now feel like I can eat anything and still lose weight!. I can almost eat a whole pizza and still lose weight!
That just does not sound right to me :P

Thanks again

sloth3toes

Thanks, you are exactly right, I am currently around 185 lbs, but to be completely honest, I don't want to just lose the fat and then stop. I want to build muscles and have six abs (lol) but I am not sure when I should stop with my weight loss journey (or reduce it a lot).
I was around 216 lbs when I started and managed to reduce it to 185 but now as you said it seems way much harder.
So am not sure if I should keep on going for an hour on the Elliptical or double that or instead reduce it to 30 min and spend the rest of the time with weights and dumbells OR a third new option is to replace Elliptical with Cardio circuit training like Insanity (Shaun T) or maybe you have something else in mind.

Also I just changed the weekly goal to 0.5 kg and my counter jumped up to 1960 :O :O. I now feel like I can eat anything and still lose weight!. I can almost eat a whole pizza and still lose weight!
That just does not sound right to me :P

Thanks again

Ok, well now maybe you have some idea of the 'range' you can eat in. I think you had yourself convinced that you had to 'starve' yourself to lose weight. And 2 hrs on an elliptical, that just freaks me out. Let me give you some advice from someone who did it 'wrong.' I came to MFP after losing about 30 lbs, and had already gotten into the cardio.... ( not that there's anything wrong with that.... ) But, after reading tons of posts, I realized that waiting to start lifting weights is a mistake. So, I'm just getting started with that. But, I can assure you, if you read enough posts here, you'll realize that the sooner you start lifting, the better your body will like you, and the better you will like your body.

ndj1979

sigh..it does not matter what ou eat..it is the calorie deficit that you create that leads to weight loss..so just eat in a deficit and don't worry about "good" or "bad" foods...

7L551

Thanks, you are exactly right, I am currently around 185 lbs, but to be completely honest, I don't want to just lose the fat and then stop. I want to build muscles and have six abs (lol) but I am not sure when I should stop with my weight loss journey (or reduce it a lot).
I was around 216 lbs when I started and managed to reduce it to 185 but now as you said it seems way much harder.
So am not sure if I should keep on going for an hour on the Elliptical or double that or instead reduce it to 30 min and spend the rest of the time with weights and dumbells OR a third new option is to replace Elliptical with Cardio circuit training like Insanity (Shaun T) or maybe you have something else in mind.

Also I just changed the weekly goal to 0.5 kg and my counter jumped up to 1960 :O :O. I now feel like I can eat anything and still lose weight!. I can almost eat a whole pizza and still lose weight!
That just does not sound right to me :P

Thanks again

Ok, well now maybe you have some idea of the 'range' you can eat in. I think you had yourself convinced that you had to 'starve' yourself to lose weight. And 2 hrs on an elliptical, that just freaks me out. Let me give you some advice from someone who did it 'wrong.' I came to MFP after losing about 30 lbs, and had already gotten into the cardio.... ( not that there's anything wrong with that.... ) But, after reading tons of posts, I realized that waiting to start lifting weights is a mistake. So, I'm just getting started with that. But, I can assure you, if you read enough posts here, you'll realize that the sooner you start lifting, the better your body will like you, and the better you will like your body.

Thanks man will keep all of these info in mind