No kind of fat is healthy?

More and more research shows that "benign obesity" does not exist, overweight and obesity itself increases the risk of various diseases and death, without which obesity is healthy, no longer has to optimism, "I'm fat but I'm healthy, "to deceive ourselves, and action now to control weight bar.

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  • RoyBeck
    RoyBeck Posts: 947 Member
    I don't understand your post but to answer the thread title there are some essential fats so I'd disagree.
  • arrseegee
    arrseegee Posts: 575 Member
    I have no idea what you are trying to imply but humans need an essential percentage of body fat to store vitamins A D E and K, make hormones, and keep you alive. And as RoyBeck said there are essential fatty acids we need in our diets. So I totally disagree with you.

    Also, people who are overweight and fit are less likely to develop things like CVD than someone with low body fat who isn't active.
  • Fuzzipeg
    Fuzzipeg Posts: 2,303 Member
    Are you talking about fat, or degree of fat. There is a world of difference between being normal range, over weight and being obese. The starting point for normal range and obesity are set low. I do not have the reference to hand but it is find able, this was a political decision made years ago, possibly soon after WW2 when dietary standards were very different to the level the majority of us are able to enjoy today.

    Information from the early insurance industry which hardly ever gets mentioned either, the health of those slightly above the start of normal range had greater longevity than the similar number who were below.
  • patrickfish7
    patrickfish7 Posts: 190 Member
    How are you measuring obesity? BMI? Then Usain Bolt is overweight :laugh:
  • _Zardoz_
    _Zardoz_ Posts: 3,987 Member
    The original poster I believe is talking about this

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-25118857
  • Is this the study your talking about?
    http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=1784291

    Most of the conclusions from the study can be said about thin people as well, they have pretty much the same dangers.
  • I'm assuming like others have that this is the study you are referring to. http://annals.org/article.aspx?articleid=1784291

    "Overweight
    In a pooled analysis of 7 studies, metabolically healthy overweight individuals had a similar risk for all-cause mortality or CV events compared with metabolically healthy normal-weight persons (RR, 1.10; CI, 0.90 to 1.24) (Figure 1, A), although significance was almost reached. The heterogeneity was not significant in the individual estimates when the magnitude of association was evaluated (I2 = 0%; P = 0.065), and there was no evidence of publication bias on the Peter regression test (P = 0.59). Recognizing the long-term course generally required for manifestation of CV risk, we repeated this analysis with restriction to studies that had at least 10 years of follow-up. This analysis demonstrated a similar occurrence of events in metabolically healthy overweight individuals compared with metabolically healthy normal-weight persons in studies with long-term follow-up (RR, 1.21; 95% CI, 0.91 to 1.61; I2 = 70%) (Figure 1, B)."


    TLDR: There is no difference between metabolically healthy overweight individuals and metabolically healthy normal weight individuals when it comes to the risk for all-cause mortality (dying of any cause) and CV events (heart attacks).


    "Obesity
    In a pooled analysis of 8 studies, metabolically healthy obese persons had a similar risk for all-cause mortality or CV events compared with the metabolically healthy normal-weight individuals (RR, 1.19; CI, 0.98 to 1.38) (Figure 1, C). Heterogeneity was not significant in the individual estimates when the magnitude of association was evaluated (I2 = 15.1%; P = 0.148), and there was no evidence of publication bias on the Peter regression test (P = 0.79). However, after we restricted analysis only to studies with at least 10 years of follow-up, the metabolically healthy obese group indeed had increased mortality and CV risk compared with the metabolically healthy normal-weight group (RR, 1.24; CI, 1.02 to 1.55; I2 = 33.6%) (Figure 1, D). These data indicate that, with long-term follow-up, metabolically healthy obesity is associated with increased mortality and CV risk."


    TLDR: When it comes to the short term, metabolically healthy obese individuals and metabolically healthy normal weight individuals do not differ in all-cause mortality or CV events risk. However when looking at long term studies over the span of 10 years, the metabolically healthy obese individuals had a greater rate of mortality and CV risk.



    Conclusion:
    There are no extra health risks related to being overweight if you are metabolically healthy but there are health risks related to being obese even if you are metabolically healthy. It is also noted that regardless of your weight, being metabolically unhealthy puts you at a greater risk for everything.
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