Yummy McDonald's??
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Strong copy pasta...
...and by that I mean plagiarism. Attribution to the actual author would have been nice. This appears to be the original source: http://politicalblindspot.com/hamburger-chef-jamie-oliver-proves-mcdonalds-burgers-unfit-for-human-consumption/ but honestly, citing *any* source would have been better than nothing.
Also, how did you avoid hearing about this when it first happened?
I did quote original article after...forgot to do so in the first place. Mi Scusi to all plagiarism Hitlers in this world!
I didn't think you were claiming all that as your own so don't worry about it....lol.0 -
Jamie Oliver's done some excellent programmes! I remember the one showing how chicken nuggets were made. Yuck. It makes me incredibly glad that I've been to McDonald's about 5 times total in my entire life! And I've never had a beef burger, just chicken. Although I'm sure that's not much better! I'm very glad I have parents who wouldn't let us go there! My 4 and 2 year old don't even know it exists!0
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I had a McDonald's burger in France once and it tasted like a burger you'd get at a fine steakhouse in the States.
Sad.
While we're giving anecdotal evidence, I've eaten McDonalds in :
England
France
Germany
Finland
Denmark
Argentina
USA
Netherlands
Italy
I don't recall any of them tasting particularly better than any others. They were all reasonably priced, ok tasting burgers.
I can back up your anecdotal evidence with a +1 for England and France, anyway.
When I visited Paris, I quickly came to the conclusion that they had no idea what a burger is supposed to taste like - at least the cafes that weren't crazy expensive didn't. McDonalds there wasn't any better than home, but it was better than the non-fast food hamburgers over there that were just dripping with grease. The oily fried egg on top did not help. Paris has awesome street sandwiches and crepes, bread, french cooking (duh). Not hamburgers. At least, they didn't 20-some-odd years ago.0 -
I had a McDonald's burger in France once and it tasted like a burger you'd get at a fine steakhouse in the States.
Sad.
I ate hamburgers in the Netherlands from McDonald's and now can't give blood thanks to mad cow disease...
I would rather have the pink slime thanks.
Still doesn't mean ny particular burger wasn't tasty on that particular day in a completely different country. Cool out with the snark and enjoy your pink slime.0 -
Wow, this is OLD news.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/health/2012/02/01/mcdonalds-announces-end-to-pink-slime-in-burgers/
That's dated Feb 2012. Almost two years ago.
I wonder why the site the OP quoted waited 18 months (dated Aug 2013) to publish this. Maybe so that it would be a bit easier to claim that mainstream media ignored it. Although any sensible adult could do a quick google check and find it wasn't the case (it took me all of 10 seconds). In case you didn't notice, that link is for abc, one of the large national networks in the U.S. Not exactly a case for it being ignored in mainstream media.
Alarmism?
ETA: I hate McDonald's and don't eat there if there is any other option at all (usually there is!) so I'm not defending a beloved food stop.0 -
I am certainly not going to defend mc Donald's and their mass produced industrial, processed food products. I prefer real food, and cooking things myself. But, a few things mentioned in OP's post bugs me.
1) what's wrong with eating the whole part of animals, like snout to tail eating? Are we supposed to eat only the chicken breast, and throw the remaining carcass in the garbage bin? Snout to tail eating is healthier I think, different nutrients in different parts of the animal. And reduces waste.
2) the use of alkaline ingredients is used in other cooking techniques. For example, the Mayans have used lime for centuries to make corn tortillas, which breaks down the corn, releasing nutrients and making the food more digestible.0 -
I need to quit eating fast food all together and eat at home. Thanks for the extra "push"0
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Still doesn't mean ny particular burger wasn't tasty on that particular day in a completely different country. Cool out with the snark and enjoy your pink slime.
LOL.
"Cool out with the snark and [here's some snark]."
Oh, MFP. Don't ever change.
Don't. Ever. Change.0 -
If I were to have seen this last year, I probably would have quit going to McDonalds completely. Or tried, anyways...
Unfortunately, my time of freaking out about what companies do to our foods has ended. What's that word some people use, desensitization?
Yes, what they do to their food is terrible, I'll admit. But when you look at it, honestly, so is everything else most companies do to our foods. They put in so many harmful substances, it's almost impossible to tell what you should eat versus what you shouldn't anymore, especially with all the ways companies have become skilled at getting around food labeling to make their poison sound relatively healthy and "natural."
The only way you can be 100% safe is if you grow everything yourself, basically. Even then, with pollution, it may still have its downsides.
I don't really know why I'm still ranting, what I hope to gain through this, I just... I hate the food industry. Gah. They're so corrupt, it's all about money and nothing else.0 -
No one is forcing anyone to eat it.
We go there maybe once a month. My boys have a nugget happy meal with chocolate milk, yogurt, apple slices and french fries, and then they go play for half an hour to an hour. Perhaps other places should up their game and provide an indoor playground, but until then a maybe once a month handful of nuggets won't kill them.
I grew up helping with butchering various animals, one being the pig. Part of that process was cleaning and rinsing out the intestines to use as sausage casing. And guess what, we purposefully put fat into the sausage mix, otherwise they are too dry. While I always peel the casing off, many people happily eat it along with the sausage. People also eat chicken skin all the time, KFC, anyone? And did you know that Health Canada's advice for international travel includes not eating lettuce or other raw vegetables that havent been cleaned in bleach water.
The only problem with McDonald's is people weren't specifically told.0 -
Haggis anyone? Scrapple anyone? Skin, organs, leftovers? Sounds good to me.
Side note: Don't make fun of Scrapple. I grew up on that loaf of leftover parts. I LOVE It.
YES, scrapple is DELISH!!0 -
Us asians eat the pink slime and throw away the bland breast meat.0
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Strong copy pasta...
...and by that I mean plagiarism. Attribution to the actual author would have been nice. This appears to be the original source: http://politicalblindspot.com/hamburger-chef-jamie-oliver-proves-mcdonalds-burgers-unfit-for-human-consumption/ but honestly, citing *any* source would have been better than nothing.
Also, how did you avoid hearing about this when it first happened?
I did quote original article after...forgot to do so in the first place. Mi Scusi to all plagiarism Hitlers in this world!
Plagarism Hitler? So you think theft is cool?
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I only eat mcdonalds a couple times a year ..so whatevs...0
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Pretty insidious really.....especially considering how they market to children with all the clown stuff.0
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Pretty insidious really.....especially considering how they market to children with all the clown stuff.
inorite?
That creepy clown keeps breaking into my house at night and force-feeding Happy Meals to my children...
...and during the day, my 9- and 12-year olds keep taking the family car and buying that "food".
Evil...pure evil...how this company is compelling children against the will of and without knowledge of their parents.0 -
Pretty insidious really.....especially considering how they market to children with all the clown stuff.
inorite?
That creepy clown keeps breaking into my house at night and force-feeding Happy Meals to my children...
...and during the day, my 9- and 12-year olds keep taking the family car and buying that "food".
Evil...pure evil...how this company is compelling children against the will of and without knowledge of their parents.
No...the clown programs the children who in turn beg you to take them to McDonald's....which you do apparently. So in reality you are being controlled by a make believe clown.0 -
Pretty insidious really.....especially considering how they market to children with all the clown stuff.
inorite?
That creepy clown keeps breaking into my house at night and force-feeding Happy Meals to my children...
...and during the day, my 9- and 12-year olds keep taking the family car and buying that "food".
Evil...pure evil...how this company is compelling children against the will of and without knowledge of their parents.
No...the clown programs the children who in turn beg you to take them to McDonald's....which you do apparently. So in reality you are being controlled by a make believe clown.
Do they even use the clown anymore? I see WAY more marketing to adults. What's the point of marketing to kids when it's the adults you need to get in the door.
I'm pretty sure the kids "beg" me to go because they like burgers and especially fries, so do I so every once in a while we'll go.0 -
No one is forcing anyone to eat it.
We go there maybe once a month. My boys have a nugget happy meal with chocolate milk, yogurt, apple slices and french fries, and then they go play for half an hour to an hour. Perhaps other places should up their game and provide an indoor playground, but until then a maybe once a month handful of nuggets won't kill them.
I grew up helping with butchering various animals, one being the pig. Part of that process was cleaning and rinsing out the intestines to use as sausage casing. And guess what, we purposefully put fat into the sausage mix, otherwise they are too dry. While I always peel the casing off, many people happily eat it along with the sausage. People also eat chicken skin all the time, KFC, anyone? And did you know that Health Canada's advice for international travel includes not eating lettuce or other raw vegetables that havent been cleaned in bleach water.
The only problem with McDonald's is people weren't specifically told.
I have no problem eating sausages with the casing on it. As Ive always ate it almost my whole life, every sunday my Italian grandma would make meatballs and sausage sauce. Which I might add Im having sausages tonight for dinner with the casing on it.....I guess just like with McD's food ppl get used to it, it really no longer would bother ppl so much. But would I eat McD's pr sausages every day no. I like a variety of foods especially food made at home0 -
Pretty insidious really.....especially considering how they market to children with all the clown stuff.
inorite?
That creepy clown keeps breaking into my house at night and force-feeding Happy Meals to my children...
...and during the day, my 9- and 12-year olds keep taking the family car and buying that "food".
Evil...pure evil...how this company is compelling children against the will of and without knowledge of their parents.
No...the clown programs the children who in turn beg you to take them to McDonald's....which you do apparently. So in reality you are being controlled by a make believe clown.
My kids dont beg me to take them. Theyll ask but guess what I put my foot down and tell them no...its called being a parent and having the upper hand0 -
Pretty insidious really.....especially considering how they market to children with all the clown stuff.
inorite?
That creepy clown keeps breaking into my house at night and force-feeding Happy Meals to my children...
...and during the day, my 9- and 12-year olds keep taking the family car and buying that "food".
Evil...pure evil...how this company is compelling children against the will of and without knowledge of their parents.
No...the clown programs the children who in turn beg you to take them to McDonald's....which you do apparently. So in reality you are being controlled by a make believe clown.
My kids dont beg me to take them. Theyll ask but guess what I put my foot down and tell them no...its called being a parent and having the upper hand
LOL, I just caught this.... The clown programs the children..0 -
Pretty insidious really.....especially considering how they market to children with all the clown stuff.
inorite?
That creepy clown keeps breaking into my house at night and force-feeding Happy Meals to my children...
...and during the day, my 9- and 12-year olds keep taking the family car and buying that "food".
Evil...pure evil...how this company is compelling children against the will of and without knowledge of their parents.
No...the clown programs the children who in turn beg you to take them to McDonald's....which you do apparently. So in reality you are being controlled by a make believe clown.
I do apparently? On what logic is that assumption based?
One of us is being strangely affected by this clown. It isn't me.0 -
No one is forcing anyone to eat it.
We go there maybe once a month. My boys have a nugget happy meal with chocolate milk, yogurt, apple slices and french fries, and then they go play for half an hour to an hour. Perhaps other places should up their game and provide an indoor playground, but until then a maybe once a month handful of nuggets won't kill them.
I grew up helping with butchering various animals, one being the pig. Part of that process was cleaning and rinsing out the intestines to use as sausage casing. And guess what, we purposefully put fat into the sausage mix, otherwise they are too dry. While I always peel the casing off, many people happily eat it along with the sausage. People also eat chicken skin all the time, KFC, anyone? And did you know that Health Canada's advice for international travel includes not eating lettuce or other raw vegetables that havent been cleaned in bleach water.
The only problem with McDonald's is people weren't specifically told.
I have no problem eating sausages with the casing on it. As Ive always ate it almost my whole life, every sunday my Italian grandma would make meatballs and sausage sauce. Which I might add Im having sausages tonight for dinner with the casing on it.....I guess just like with McD's food ppl get used to it, it really no longer would bother ppl so much. But would I eat McD's pr sausages every day no. I like a variety of foods especially food made at home
If it has to be fast food, Wendy's and Sonic have much tastier sausage. (And Wendy's biscuits are delicious!)0 -
Pretty insidious really.....especially considering how they market to children with all the clown stuff.
inorite?
That creepy clown keeps breaking into my house at night and force-feeding Happy Meals to my children...
...and during the day, my 9- and 12-year olds keep taking the family car and buying that "food".
Evil...pure evil...how this company is compelling children against the will of and without knowledge of their parents.
No...the clown programs the children who in turn beg you to take them to McDonald's....which you do apparently. So in reality you are being controlled by a make believe clown.
I do apparently? On what logic is that assumption based?
One of us is being strangely affected by this clown. It isn't me.
The logic that I empirically trust my empathic abilities. Logic will only get you so far.0 -
Pretty insidious really.....especially considering how they market to children with all the clown stuff.
inorite?
That creepy clown keeps breaking into my house at night and force-feeding Happy Meals to my children...
...and during the day, my 9- and 12-year olds keep taking the family car and buying that "food".
Evil...pure evil...how this company is compelling children against the will of and without knowledge of their parents.
No...the clown programs the children who in turn beg you to take them to McDonald's....which you do apparently. So in reality you are being controlled by a make believe clown.
Well, when my kids were little, they did beg to go to McDonald's. It was probably as much because that's what grandma and grandpa did as it was the clown. But most of the time, we told them no. We went to other places (there's a regional chain here that is far far better) and the kids figured out that McD isn't all that great. Now they rarely ask.
Guess what … parents have much more influence over their kids than advertising if they are involved with their kids. Openly discussing advertising strategies as we see them also helps kids learn to avoid being influenced .0 -
Strong copy pasta...
...and by that I mean plagiarism. Attribution to the actual author would have been nice. This appears to be the original source: http://politicalblindspot.com/hamburger-chef-jamie-oliver-proves-mcdonalds-burgers-unfit-for-human-consumption/ but honestly, citing *any* source would have been better than nothing.
Also, how did you avoid hearing about this when it first happened?
I did quote original article after...forgot to do so in the first place. Mi Scusi to all plagiarism Hitlers in this world!
I didn't think you were claiming all that as your own so don't worry about it....lol.
Yeah, I'm glad someone else realized how silly that sounded. Exaggeration Fail.0 -
I am certainly not going to defend mc Donald's and their mass produced industrial, processed food products. I prefer real food, and cooking things myself. But, a few things mentioned in OP's post bugs me.
1) what's wrong with eating the whole part of animals, like snout to tail eating? Are we supposed to eat only the chicken breast, and throw the remaining carcass in the garbage bin? Snout to tail eating is healthier I think, different nutrients in different parts of the animal. And reduces waste.
2) the use of alkaline ingredients is used in other cooking techniques. For example, the Mayans have used lime for centuries to make corn tortillas, which breaks down the corn, releasing nutrients and making the food more digestible.
I saw this list of ammonia-containing foods, from link http://grist.org/list/ten-foods-with-more-ammonia-than-pink-slime/
According to the University of Michigan Risk Science Center, a burger patty made with pink slime contains 0.02 grams of ammonia per 100 grams of meat — but bleu cheese contains almost seven times as much.
Here are 10 foods with more ammonia than your slimy, slimy burger:
Cheese. Oh my god, cheese is like an ammonia warehouse. Domestic bleu cheese topped the list with 0.138 grams of ammonia per 100 grams, but cheddar (0.11), beer cheese (0.092), American cheese (0.081), and a couple types I’ve never heard of all ranked.
Salami, 0.11 grams of ammonia per 100 grams.
Peanut butter, 0.049 grams per 100.
Mayonnaise, 0.041 grams per 100.
Ketchup, 0.035.
Gelatin, 0.034.
Onions, 0.027.
Potato chips, 0.024, though I imagine the brand and flavor would matter.
Brewer’s yeast, 0.022.
Margarine, 0.0210 -
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And what about ammonium bicarbonate, isn't that what baking powder is made from? Don't think Jamie Oliver is going to sue Betty Crocker any time soon.
Again...not defending mc Donald's food...but, I think we have to be careful with the type of arguments that are formulated.0 -
And what about ammonium bicarbonate, isn't that what baking powder is made from? Don't think Jamie Oliver is going to sue Betty Crocker any time soon.
Again...not defending mc Donald's food...but, I think we have to be careful with the type of arguments that are formulated.
sodium bicarbonate0
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