My doctor says, "No sugar for a month" (Dec-Jan 17th)

Quieau

didn't read the whole thread but remember that cutting out sugar could account for weight loss EVEN IF THERE IS NO CHANGE in daily net calories. a steady intake of sugar almost always has a good supply of water involved, and so weight lost during a sugar-fast is not necessarily fat, but more likely water, especially at first, and especially with inflammation issues already going on.

let me get this right..

person A eats in 500 calorie deficit and consumes moderate amount of sugar...

Person A then eats in 500 calorie deficit and consumes almost no sugar...

But the 500 calorie deficit with less sugar is superior and will result in more weight loss?

Ummmm ... huh? Where did "superior" come in? And yes, if you eat the same amount of calories with NO sugar, you will retain less water. If you eat the same amount of calories with a lot of sugar, you will retain MORE water. When you lose or gain it has to do with when you eat or don't eat lots of sugar. Not talking about the FAT loss, but the WEIGHT loss (which can include water, poop, muscle, etc.)

Where you found ANY judgement in my assertion is beyond me. I eat plenty of sugar now that I know the extra weight is just water and not fat (where I used to be afraid of sugar before I realized the water connection because I thought all that weight was fat gain from sugar, which is clearly not the case!)

Defensive much? Sheesh.

ndj1979

didn't read the whole thread but remember that cutting out sugar could account for weight loss EVEN IF THERE IS NO CHANGE in daily net calories. a steady intake of sugar almost always has a good supply of water involved, and so weight lost during a sugar-fast is not necessarily fat, but more likely water, especially at first, and especially with inflammation issues already going on.

let me get this right..

person A eats in 500 calorie deficit and consumes moderate amount of sugar...

Person A then eats in 500 calorie deficit and consumes almost no sugar...

But the 500 calorie deficit with less sugar is superior and will result in more weight loss?

Ummmm ... huh? Where did "superior" come in? And yes, if you eat the same amount of calories with NO sugar, you will retain less water. If you eat the same amount of calories with a lot of sugar, you will retain MORE water. When you lose or gain it has to do with when you eat or don't eat lots of sugar. Not talking about the FAT loss, but the WEIGHT loss (which can include water, poop, muscle, etc.)

Where you found ANY judgement in my assertion is beyond me. I eat plenty of sugar now that I know the extra weight is just water and not fat (where I used to be afraid of sugar before I realized the water connection because I thought all that weight was fat gain from sugar, which is clearly not the case!)

Defensive much? Sheesh.

you seem defensive..

I was just trying to understand what your point was…

as for the point about retaining water, the person on a higher sugar diet would just flush it out ..so the "gain" is not fat ..so really they would both lose at the same rate..assuming no medical condition..

Myhaloslipped

didn't read the whole thread but remember that cutting out sugar could account for weight loss EVEN IF THERE IS NO CHANGE in daily net calories. a steady intake of sugar almost always has a good supply of water involved, and so weight lost during a sugar-fast is not necessarily fat, but more likely water, especially at first, and especially with inflammation issues already going on.

let me get this right..

person A eats in 500 calorie deficit and consumes moderate amount of sugar...

Person A then eats in 500 calorie deficit and consumes almost no sugar...

But the 500 calorie deficit with less sugar is superior and will result in more weight loss?

Ummmm ... huh? Where did "superior" come in? And yes, if you eat the same amount of calories with NO sugar, you will retain less water. If you eat the same amount of calories with a lot of sugar, you will retain MORE water. When you lose or gain it has to do with when you eat or don't eat lots of sugar. Not talking about the FAT loss, but the WEIGHT loss (which can include water, poop, muscle, etc.)

Where you found ANY judgement in my assertion is beyond me. I eat plenty of sugar now that I know the extra weight is just water and not fat (where I used to be afraid of sugar before I realized the water connection because I thought all that weight was fat gain from sugar, which is clearly not the case!)

Defensive much? Sheesh.

I don't see anything defensive in what he said. It was merely a clarification statement.

Derf_Smeggle

A few people are exclaiming, "That makes no sense!", "The doctor doesn't know what he's talking about", "It's not about the sugar!"

2 possible reasons for doctor's recommendations:

1. Borderline blood sugar levels indicating a trend towards hyperglycemia/T2DM
2. Reactive Hypoglycemia

Both can create greater difficulties in weight loss.

Mr_Knight

A few people are exclaiming, "That makes no sense!", "The doctor doesn't know what he's talking about", "It's not about the sugar!"

2 possible reasons for doctor's recommendations:

1. Borderline blood sugar levels indicating a trend towards hyperglycemia/T2DM
2. Reactive Hypoglycemia

Both can create greater difficulties in weight loss.

Two good reasons. :drinker:

Here's a third - OP is too damn heavy and eats too damn much sugar, thereby making it impossible to balance her macros inside a sensible calorie target unless the OP....wait for it...greatly reduces sugar intake.

Derf_Smeggle

A few people are exclaiming, "That makes no sense!", "The doctor doesn't know what he's talking about", "It's not about the sugar!"

2 possible reasons for doctor's recommendations:

1. Borderline blood sugar levels indicating a trend towards hyperglycemia/T2DM
2. Reactive Hypoglycemia

Both can create greater difficulties in weight loss.

Two good reasons. :drinker:

Here's a third - OP is too damn heavy and eats too damn much sugar, thereby making it impossible to balance her macros inside a sensible calorie target unless the OP....wait for it...greatly reduces sugar intake.

That is a possibility, though harshly worded, that isn't in dispute. I was addressing the people who exclaim that there are no ties to sugar intake and weight issues, when in fact there are metabolic disorders to the contrary.

MelodyandBarbells

Could it be the doctor knows her patient, and that a simple, "my doctor said I shouldn't eat added sugar" would help her turn down massive quantities of delicious treats during the holiday season? I started working out regularly after my doc said it would be a mental break from working so hard all damn day. What has this to do with the calories in calories out equation? But she knew me, my situation and my lifestyle and what could potentially be a motivator for me. Whether or not we'll be able to tell if the OP's future XX lb loss is from sugar or calories is, well I don't think she would care either way which magic did it, just so long as it happens, right??

OP, I've been using the heck out of the allrecipes.com app. They may have new exciting recipes to calm your cravings or you could use any and all of your MFP tricks to substitute ingredients to lower sugar and calories. Basically I think cooking even more than you do currently may help??

Aim4skinnyjeans

Thanks for all the GREAT responses to my post. I'm so encouraged by everyone's advice and knowledge. Thank-you! Thank-you! Thank-you!