Clean eating; what is it really?
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Clean eating = eat all the food on the plate = no waste = think of the little children starving around the world = clean your plate ?!
Unless you also lick the plate, you're doing it wrong.
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Nothing wrong with giving it a try, but I'd highly recommend keeping your fat intake higher-a lot of the clean eating advocates push foods that are low fat and I think that was a big reason why I got so messed up.
I believe it is the opposite. The focus is on eating a good amount of fats but not trans or sat fats that are found in pre-packaged foods with long shelf lives.
The consumption of olive oil, avocados, nuts, seeds, coconut oil for baking and cooking, are highly encouraged. All this as well as fatty fish like salmon and having a good level of Omega 3.
Fats are not bad; it is the type of fats we consume that could be a problem health-wise.
What focus? There is no clean eating focus. It might be the focus of the plan that you are following but certainly not all that tout "clean eating". That is the point a ton of us have been making.
That poster was talking about the Dr. Furhman et al type "clean eating" which does not focus on fats but does focus on grains and veggies, no animal products.
Nor did the "clean eating" al la Tosca Reno. It focused on animal products, certain grains and fruits and veggies. But the emphasis was not on fats.
Paleo/primal style "clean eating" does focus on a lot of fats but avoids grains.
I believe this is a perfect example of the problem of the label of "clean eating".
Exactly this-I was following a 'clean' eating style that was very low fat, as advocated by several doctors-authors. This is the opposite of primal 'clean'. Both camps of course claim that their version of 'clean' is the correct/only way.0 -
Restriction. For me, at least
Tried "clean eating", mostly raw fruit and veggies, lost my period (TMI?) and become borderline anemic/vitamin deficient despite taking vitamins every day. Now, like a lot of people here, I just try to do IIFYM. Still haven't gotten my period back, but at least my sanity is now intact.0 -
Good info. Sounds like the takeaway is if you restrict your diet to just one food group, you end up with nutritional deficiencies. It's as if those balanced meals people have been eating for decades were on the right track or something...Restriction. For me, at least
Tried "clean eating", mostly raw fruit and veggies, lost my period (TMI?) and become borderline anemic/vitamin deficient despite taking vitamins every day. Now, like a lot of people here, I just try to do IIFYM. Still haven't gotten my period back, but at least my sanity is now intact.
That's why I'm on the taco diet. You got your grains, your meat, your cheese, and your veggies. Nature's perfect food. Also... tacos.
edit because my intention and my grammar conflicted.0 -
clean eating is basically eating whole natural foods. no processed junk, added sugars or artificial ingredients0
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Food you've washed.
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Pretty much this.It means you freely admit you know next to nothing about nutrition, science is too hard and you'd rather just make stuff up as you go along.
Obviously, limiting processed food is a good idea for both health and weight management, but don't pretend it's something it's not. Demonising food often leads to an 'all or nothing' approach to diet.0 -
Short simple answer: Shop the outside walls of your grocery store and cook it.0
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Short simple answer: Shop the outside walls of your grocery store and cook it.
That's fantastic! The ice cream, bread and baked goods are all on the outside walls of my supermarket. Plus the frozen pizzas and frozen dinners. And bacon. And hotdogs.0 -
Short simple answer: Shop the outside walls of your grocery store and cook it.
That's fantastic! The ice cream, bread and baked goods are all on the outside walls of my supermarket. Plus the frozen pizzas and frozen dinners. And bacon. And hotdogs.
So is the beer in mine. But beer built civilization so it can't be all that bad.0 -
Short simple answer: Shop the outside walls of your grocery store and cook it.
That's fantastic! The ice cream, bread and baked goods are all on the outside walls of my supermarket. Plus the frozen pizzas and frozen dinners. And bacon. And hotdogs.
So is the beer in mine. But beer built civilization so it can't be all that bad.
:grumble:
You can't sell liquor in grocery stores here, you have to go to a government run liquor store. Although, it is attached to my favorite grocery store so technically if I followed the wall I would go through the door and I could shop the wall of the liquor store too.0 -
Short simple answer: Shop the outside walls of your grocery store and cook it.
That's fantastic! The ice cream, bread and baked goods are all on the outside walls of my supermarket. Plus the frozen pizzas and frozen dinners. And bacon. And hotdogs.
So is the beer in mine. But beer built civilization so it can't be all that bad.
:grumble:
You can't sell liquor in grocery stores here, you have to go to a government run liquor store. Although, it is attached to my favorite grocery store so technically if I followed the wall I would go through the door and I could shop the wall of the liquor store too.
Is it the whiskey wall or the vodka wall? These things matter!0 -
Short simple answer: Shop the outside walls of your grocery store and cook it.
That's fantastic! The ice cream, bread and baked goods are all on the outside walls of my supermarket. Plus the frozen pizzas and frozen dinners. And bacon. And hotdogs.
So is the beer in mine. But beer built civilization so it can't be all that bad.
:grumble:
You can't sell liquor in grocery stores here, you have to go to a government run liquor store. Although, it is attached to my favorite grocery store so technically if I followed the wall I would go through the door and I could shop the wall of the liquor store too.
Is it the whiskey wall or the vodka wall? These things matter!
It is! The inner aisles are mostly wine. I'll miss that but with beer and hard liquids I think I can manage.
Ya know, sacrifices and all.0 -
Short simple answer: Shop the outside walls of your grocery store and cook it.
That's fantastic! The ice cream, bread and baked goods are all on the outside walls of my supermarket. Plus the frozen pizzas and frozen dinners. And bacon. And hotdogs.
So is the beer in mine. But beer built civilization so it can't be all that bad.
:grumble:
You can't sell liquor in grocery stores here, you have to go to a government run liquor store. Although, it is attached to my favorite grocery store so technically if I followed the wall I would go through the door and I could shop the wall of the liquor store too.
Is it the whiskey wall or the vodka wall? These things matter!
It is! The inner aisles are mostly wine. I'll miss that but with beer and hard liquids I think I can manage.
Ya know, sacrifices and all.
Good luck to you! I'm sure you can tough it out0 -
Short simple answer: Shop the outside walls of your grocery store and cook it.
That's fantastic! The ice cream, bread and baked goods are all on the outside walls of my supermarket. Plus the frozen pizzas and frozen dinners. And bacon. And hotdogs.
So is the beer in mine. But beer built civilization so it can't be all that bad.
:grumble:
You can't sell liquor in grocery stores here, you have to go to a government run liquor store. Although, it is attached to my favorite grocery store so technically if I followed the wall I would go through the door and I could shop the wall of the liquor store too.
Is it the whiskey wall or the vodka wall? These things matter!
It is! The inner aisles are mostly wine. I'll miss that but with beer and hard liquids I think I can manage.
You guys are derailing this thread. Please stay on the original topic, which is.....
hey.. just a random question.. does anyone know if canned tuna alone is good weight loss? i do have a snack or two here n there.. and have alot of veges along with it and fruits yahh... alot ...but i survive... on just two can of tuna a day.. is that good?
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Short simple answer: Shop the outside walls of your grocery store and cook it.
Omg I started something... :laugh: :laugh: If it's in a box and has ingredients with words you have to goggle unless you're a biochemist, skip it. Yeah nothing wrong with Beer, everything in moderation, especially the MFP forums!
That's fantastic! The ice cream, bread and baked goods are all on the outside walls of my supermarket. Plus the frozen pizzas and frozen dinners. And bacon. And hotdogs.
So is the beer in mine. But beer built civilization so it can't be all that bad.
:grumble:
You can't sell liquor in grocery stores here, you have to go to a government run liquor store. Although, it is attached to my favorite grocery store so technically if I followed the wall I would go through the door and I could shop the wall of the liquor store too.
Is it the whiskey wall or the vodka wall? These things matter!
It is! The inner aisles are mostly wine. I'll miss that but with beer and hard liquids I think I can manage.
You guys are derailing this thread. Please stay on the original topic, which is.....
hey.. just a random question.. does anyone know if canned tuna alone is good weight loss? i do have a snack or two here n there.. and have alot of veges along with it and fruits yahh... alot ...but i survive... on just two can of tuna a day.. is that good?0 -
Good info. Sounds like the takeaway is if you restrict your diet to just one food group, you end up with nutritional deficiencies. It's as if those balanced meals people have been eating for decades were on the right track or something...Restriction. For me, at least
Tried "clean eating", mostly raw fruit and veggies, lost my period (TMI?) and become borderline anemic/vitamin deficient despite taking vitamins every day. Now, like a lot of people here, I just try to do IIFYM. Still haven't gotten my period back, but at least my sanity is now intact.
That's why I'm on the taco diet. You got your grains, your meat, your cheese, and your veggies. Nature's perfect food. Also... tacos.
edit because my intention and my grammar conflicted.
Oh, did I say I ate ONLY fruits and vegetables? No, I said mostly, like most people who advocate "clean eating" say is the right way to eat. What I didn't say (but implied) was that I also ate complex carbs, lean protein, healthy fats, etc.
Taco diet :drinker: Now I'm on the seafood diet.... see food, eat it :bigsmile:0 -
clean eating = eatin all the foods that I think are healthy and avoiding all the foods that I think are bad. What I think must be correct whether I know anything about nutrition or not and includes all my irrational phobias about foods.
Not everyone who is into clean eating has a stupid definition of it though. For some it just means eating more fresh foods and less processed foods (and they're not phobic about processed foods either). But for others it includes all kinds of irrational beliefs about food. And when it comes to your question, the answer is unfortunately "whatever the person who's using the term happens to define as clean eating".
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This is what I believe as well.0 -
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what does being wealthy mean?
Wealthy, and a clean eater.
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When I hear the term "clean" I think of minimally processed foods and items that don't have a ton of ingredients, added sugar, added garbage, added anything really.0
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what does being wealthy mean?
Wealthy, and a clean eater.
Hawt!!!!0 -
The problem with this question is that the question is flawed. It's like asking, what does being wealthy mean? Everyone has a different definition. Some don't equate wealth with money. Others only consider money to be the main measure. Still others, may think of wealth more as their potential; meaning, if they needed money, they could get it. But, they are content with what they have and where they are. So, that's my take on this question.
That's a good way to explain it. People don't expect that words such as wealthy, beautiful, handsome, fit, ugly shouldn't be used because it's different to everyone. What's beautiful to me is not beautiful to all.
I try to "eat clean" as a guideline to follow-whole foods with as little processing as possible, foods that satisfy and nourish me but don't tend to trigger cravings. I wouldn't tell someone else to "eat clean" because that means something different to each person. I tend to find fitting grains into my diet to be difficult for various reasons, so when I eat most grains, it's "off plan," but I certainly wouldn't consider quinoa to be a "bad" food.
I don't consider myself a clean eater because I do still buy food that offers little benefit other than taste, I do still buy convenience foods. I don't "need" to buy a vegan cookie for the fat, carbs, and calories-I get those from plenty of other sources. I buy them for the taste. I do like to try to follow the guideline as it just clicks for me, in the same way that thinking 80/20 clicks for others, or "eat in moderation" works for others.
People can become food phobic, but clean eating as a guideline is not food phobic. It's eating in moderation. It's following 80/20. I'm sure there are some who truly do eat a pretty perfectly clean diet, but my guess is that most are not that committed or don't have the means to make it realistic (finances, social interactions, whatever the case may be.) As long as others are not telling me what to do, I don't really care what they call their approach to eating.0 -
Short simple answer: Shop the outside walls of your grocery store and cook it.
That's fantastic! The ice cream, bread and baked goods are all on the outside walls of my supermarket. Plus the frozen pizzas and frozen dinners. And bacon. And hotdogs.
So is the beer in mine. But beer built civilization so it can't be all that bad.
:grumble:
You can't sell liquor in grocery stores here, you have to go to a government run liquor store. Although, it is attached to my favorite grocery store so technically if I followed the wall I would go through the door and I could shop the wall of the liquor store too.
Is it the whiskey wall or the vodka wall? These things matter!
It is! The inner aisles are mostly wine. I'll miss that but with beer and hard liquids I think I can manage.
You guys are derailing this thread. Please stay on the original topic, which is.....
hey.. just a random question.. does anyone know if canned tuna alone is good weight loss? i do have a snack or two here n there.. and have alot of veges along with it and fruits yahh... alot ...but i survive... on just two can of tuna a day.. is that good?
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Nothing, with the exception of low carb diets, create such controversy.
I consider myself a fairly clean eater. But, Ive been known to open a bag of chili cheese Fritos once in a while, or have a hotdog.
For each individual, it kinda has a different meaning, which is why it can't be defined.
I will say this, I eat clean compared to almost everyone I know, who eat like absolute crap, IMO. Like, they have a Pepsi in the morning for breakfast, and follow that with a jelly donut. I would not consider that a clean eater. And, that's not where it ends for them. Their whole day is kinda like that. OTOH, I will have two eggs with spinach and cheese for breakfast. I may have 2 cans if tuna, a banana and a yogurt for lunch. When comparing diets with people that don't care about what they eat and mine, I am a clean eater. When comparing my diet with many of you on this forum that track their food and watch their macros and workout, it's hard to say one persons diet is better than the others if they are getting the results they want.
The problem with this question is that the question is flawed. It's like asking, what does being wealthy mean? Everyone has a different definition. Some don't equate wealth with money. Others only consider money to be the main measure. Still others, may think of wealth more as their potential; meaning, if they needed money, they could get it. But, they are content with what they have and where they are. So, that's my take on this question.
If you ask me, I eat clean. But, that includes ice cream, occasionally some chips, sometimes even a cheeseburger and beer. And, I love pizza. Is pizza dirty or clean? It depends on your definition.
I view nutrition as an overall thing, and not what I eat in one meal, but what I ate over the past month. From a macro point of view, I am a very clean eater. But, at any given point in time, you may find me in a Mexican restaurant downing chips and salsa, cervezas, and a chimichanga. It's not against the law. And, I refuse to be labeled for my food choices. Overall, I am healthy and I am hitting all my goals. That's what is important here. Defining something that is not definable is stupid.
I have a can of diet coke first thing every morning, wonder of wonders I haven't dropped dead yet. :drinker:0 -
Nothing, with the exception of low carb diets, create such controversy.
I consider myself a fairly clean eater. But, Ive been known to open a bag of chili cheese Fritos once in a while, or have a hotdog.
For each individual, it kinda has a different meaning, which is why it can't be defined.
I will say this, I eat clean compared to almost everyone I know, who eat like absolute crap, IMO. Like, they have a Pepsi in the morning for breakfast, and follow that with a jelly donut. I would not consider that a clean eater. And, that's not where it ends for them. Their whole day is kinda like that. OTOH, I will have two eggs with spinach and cheese for breakfast. I may have 2 cans if tuna, a banana and a yogurt for lunch. When comparing diets with people that don't care about what they eat and mine, I am a clean eater. When comparing my diet with many of you on this forum that track their food and watch their macros and workout, it's hard to say one persons diet is better than the others if they are getting the results they want.
The problem with this question is that the question is flawed. It's like asking, what does being wealthy mean? Everyone has a different definition. Some don't equate wealth with money. Others only consider money to be the main measure. Still others, may think of wealth more as their potential; meaning, if they needed money, they could get it. But, they are content with what they have and where they are. So, that's my take on this question.
If you ask me, I eat clean. But, that includes ice cream, occasionally some chips, sometimes even a cheeseburger and beer. And, I love pizza. Is pizza dirty or clean? It depends on your definition.
I view nutrition as an overall thing, and not what I eat in one meal, but what I ate over the past month. From a macro point of view, I am a very clean eater. But, at any given point in time, you may find me in a Mexican restaurant downing chips and salsa, cervezas, and a chimichanga. It's not against the law. And, I refuse to be labeled for my food choices. Overall, I am healthy and I am hitting all my goals. That's what is important here. Defining something that is not definable is stupid.
I have a can of diet coke first thing every morning, wonder of wonders I haven't dropped dead yet. :drinker:
Oh I promise you some day you will drop dead and then who will be laughing? It probably won't be from the diet coke, but I have it on good authority that those of us who don't drink diet coke are almost certainly going to live forever on account of our purity!0 -
Studies have shown that 100% of humans that inhale oxygen die. We're all doomed.0
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Nothing, with the exception of low carb diets, create such controversy.
I consider myself a fairly clean eater. But, Ive been known to open a bag of chili cheese Fritos once in a while, or have a hotdog.
For each individual, it kinda has a different meaning, which is why it can't be defined.
I will say this, I eat clean compared to almost everyone I know, who eat like absolute crap, IMO. Like, they have a Pepsi in the morning for breakfast, and follow that with a jelly donut. I would not consider that a clean eater. And, that's not where it ends for them. Their whole day is kinda like that. OTOH, I will have two eggs with spinach and cheese for breakfast. I may have 2 cans if tuna, a banana and a yogurt for lunch. When comparing diets with people that don't care about what they eat and mine, I am a clean eater. When comparing my diet with many of you on this forum that track their food and watch their macros and workout, it's hard to say one persons diet is better than the others if they are getting the results they want.
The problem with this question is that the question is flawed. It's like asking, what does being wealthy mean? Everyone has a different definition. Some don't equate wealth with money. Others only consider money to be the main measure. Still others, may think of wealth more as their potential; meaning, if they needed money, they could get it. But, they are content with what they have and where they are. So, that's my take on this question.
If you ask me, I eat clean. But, that includes ice cream, occasionally some chips, sometimes even a cheeseburger and beer. And, I love pizza. Is pizza dirty or clean? It depends on your definition.
I view nutrition as an overall thing, and not what I eat in one meal, but what I ate over the past month. From a macro point of view, I am a very clean eater. But, at any given point in time, you may find me in a Mexican restaurant downing chips and salsa, cervezas, and a chimichanga. It's not against the law. And, I refuse to be labeled for my food choices. Overall, I am healthy and I am hitting all my goals. That's what is important here. Defining something that is not definable is stupid.
One of the best ways I've seen this written!0 -
it's a word i use to describe healthy eating. a lot of ppl hate that word and i think they should get over themselves because it means different things for diff people. :indifferent:0
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Nothing, with the exception of low carb diets, create such controversy.
I consider myself a fairly clean eater. But, Ive been known to open a bag of chili cheese Fritos once in a while, or have a hotdog.
For each individual, it kinda has a different meaning, which is why it can't be defined.
I will say this, I eat clean compared to almost everyone I know, who eat like absolute crap, IMO. Like, they have a Pepsi in the morning for breakfast, and follow that with a jelly donut. I would not consider that a clean eater. And, that's not where it ends for them. Their whole day is kinda like that. OTOH, I will have two eggs with spinach and cheese for breakfast. I may have 2 cans if tuna, a banana and a yogurt for lunch. When comparing diets with people that don't care about what they eat and mine, I am a clean eater. When comparing my diet with many of you on this forum that track their food and watch their macros and workout, it's hard to say one persons diet is better than the others if they are getting the results they want.
The problem with this question is that the question is flawed. It's like asking, what does being wealthy mean? Everyone has a different definition. Some don't equate wealth with money. Others only consider money to be the main measure. Still others, may think of wealth more as their potential; meaning, if they needed money, they could get it. But, they are content with what they have and where they are. So, that's my take on this question.
If you ask me, I eat clean. But, that includes ice cream, occasionally some chips, sometimes even a cheeseburger and beer. And, I love pizza. Is pizza dirty or clean? It depends on your definition.
I view nutrition as an overall thing, and not what I eat in one meal, but what I ate over the past month. From a macro point of view, I am a very clean eater. But, at any given point in time, you may find me in a Mexican restaurant downing chips and salsa, cervezas, and a chimichanga. It's not against the law. And, I refuse to be labeled for my food choices. Overall, I am healthy and I am hitting all my goals. That's what is important here. Defining something that is not definable is stupid.
Nice post.
It is simply a different tool to achieve a calorie deficit. Much like any other tool if you understand the reasons why you are using it and how to use it then it will be beneficial. If not, you might end up hurting yourself...0
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