Hypothetical questions about ethics in your job field...

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_John_
_John_ Posts: 8,641 Member
If you had to remain competitive in your field by doing something that was technically illegal but the only negative consequence was your own personal integrity, and virtually everyone you were competing against in your field was doing it, would you do it as well to remain competitive or would you accept the competitive disadvantage to maintain your personal integrity?
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  • _crafty_
    _crafty_ Posts: 1,682 Member
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    what is this integrity you speak of?

    seriously, I've already got my ticket for the bus ride to hell . . . what's one more thing?
  • CompressedCarbon
    CompressedCarbon Posts: 357 Member
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    Would you hypothetically be okay with it or would you flay yourself with guilt because of it? What would make this hypothetical person ok with the decision s/he made?
  • _John_
    _John_ Posts: 8,641 Member
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    Would you hypothetically be okay with it or would you flay yourself with guilt because of it? What would make this hypothetical person ok with the decision s/he made?

    Essentially the only negative consequence would be your own personal views of yourself...
  • usmcmp
    usmcmp Posts: 21,220 Member
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    This sounds like bodybuilding and steroids. Everyone at higher levels takes them, noboby admits to it. Illegal.

    Leveling the playing field.

    I have a tough time doing things I wouldn't tell my family or friends about.
  • Rosplosion
    Rosplosion Posts: 739 Member
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    In this life, if it's a choice between more money and my personal integrity I take the thing I'll die with.
  • meshashesha2012
    meshashesha2012 Posts: 8,326 Member
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    depends on whether or not i agreed with it being illegal in the first place
  • DamePiglet
    DamePiglet Posts: 3,730 Member
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    Nope.

    If I have to compromise my values (and the law) to stay competitive in the field, then I'm somewhere I don't belong.
  • devil_in_a_blue_dress
    devil_in_a_blue_dress Posts: 5,214 Member
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    depends on whether or not i agreed with it being illegal in the first place

    Pretty much this. I probably wouldn't do anything I believed was wrong for personal gain, legal or not.
  • Alluminati
    Alluminati Posts: 6,208 Member
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    I'll throw someone under the bus for more money, eff that integrity noize.


    Then again, I'll throw you under the bus for a cupcake.
  • jonnythan
    jonnythan Posts: 10,161 Member
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    No amount of success is worth sacrificing your own integrity. All the money and prestige in the world don't matter when you're laying in bed at night and won't soothe your conscious on your deathbed.
  • Tigg_er
    Tigg_er Posts: 22,001 Member
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    Intergrity Is Doing The Right Thing, Even if Nobody is Watching. (from a picture hanging in my shop so my employees can see it. )
  • mammamaurer
    mammamaurer Posts: 418 Member
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    what is this integrity you speak of?

    seriously, I've already got my ticket for the bus ride to hell . . . what's one more thing?

    ill keep a seat warm for you:wink:
  • trojan_bb
    trojan_bb Posts: 699 Member
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    Ethics and legality are separate things. If it was merely illegal but I agreed with it, I'd do it depending on the risks and rewards. Wouldnt do it if it also compromised my integrity.

    Insider Trading, for example, is mostly only prosecuted in the US and UK. It's now illegal in a number of other developed countries, but not investigated and prosecuted. It's hard to define and many people have always thought it should be legal. Does the legality of insider trading determine if it's ethical or not? Until recently, most people thought it was ethical.

    Or as previously mentioned, bodybuilding and AAS drug use. The laws are non-logical and absurd in the first place. The only question is risk vs reward. No affect on personal integrity as there is not one top competitor that doesn't use...it cannot be considered cheating.
  • Derp_Diggler
    Derp_Diggler Posts: 1,456 Member
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    If it's going to keep me up at night then no. I am cursed with a conscience dammit.
  • Mr_Bad_Example
    Mr_Bad_Example Posts: 2,403 Member
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    This sounds like a post about baseball.
  • tehboxingkitteh
    tehboxingkitteh Posts: 1,574 Member
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    I'll throw someone under the bus for more money, eff that integrity noize.


    Then again, I'll throw you under the bus for a cupcake.
    anybody, or just _john_? and what flavor cupcake are we referring to?

    my moral compass isn't completely broken. missing the pointer? yes. but not broken.
  • handyrunner
    handyrunner Posts: 32,662 Member
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    I work in the government...can't get more UN ethical...I
  • MiaOrange
    MiaOrange Posts: 151 Member
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    I would want to keep my integrity. Would be so tempting with all the competition...but honesty is a good quality that we may need to be patient for the reap the benefits and to keep our values honest.... so that anywhere else we can be trusted and sleep with a healthy conscience.
  • vtmoon
    vtmoon Posts: 3,436 Member
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    If it crosses my ethical line then no, if it crosses some made up illegal line then depends on the consequences.
  • _John_
    _John_ Posts: 8,641 Member
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    This sounds like a post about baseball.

    :wink: