HOW TO TURN YOUR BODY INTO A FAT BURNING FURNACE!
JJMaritz
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Hi Guys
2 things:
Firstly....Happy new year to everyone. Secondly, yesterday I made a stupid comment to a lady that Elliptical trainers are for lazy people. It was a dumb attempt at a stupid joke and for that I do apologize.
I'd like to give you guys some feedback on how I lost 22 pounds in 7 weeks. Nope...it wasn't Winstrol ;-)
I have tried many different diets and many different training regimes, but I came across something that really peaked my interest a while back. I have always thought that spending a lot of time on a daily basis in the gym is a waste of time. I cant imagine what guys are doing in the gym for 2-3 hours daily....maybe it sounds cool when they tell you that.....looking all jacked up like over-grown Spungebobs on Test and D-Bol with all that water retention.
My idea was to be a minimalist. I didn't want to spend more than 40 minutes in the gym and I didn't want to over-think dieting. So here's what I did:
I record my weight, also my caloric intake for that day....I did it every day for a month. By that time I was able to see how my caloric intake effects my weight management....give or take some water weight. If my calories were too high and I started to gain weight...I reduced calories (if you loose weight too fast and you want to just maintain weight....add a tb spoon of peanut butter to your snacking). I then started doing Intermittent Fasting. Here's how I did "IF": Eat 2 to 3 meals in an 8 hour window (feeding window - - 700 calories x 3 meals = 2100 calories/day). I eat from 12pm - 8pm, but you can eat whatever time suits you. At 8pm stop eating until next day 12pm. I drank a lot of water and some Pepsi Max and some black coffee, nothing over 35 calories. Please don't think you are going to die because of not eating for 16 hours...in fact, I have never had so much energy in my life. I really do feel amazing when training in a fasted state and there are so many other health benefits it's not even funny. For you guys that want to make lean gains, studies have shown that IF raises your HGH with between 1800% to 3000% - TAKE THAT DECA!
I exercised in the morning (6am) when my blood sugar levels were at their lowest, this will allow for the glucagen to use body fat as a fuel source for your body and not nutrients from food or supplements.
For exercise....I did my normal weight training program (35 minutes - 2 body parts a day) and some Tabata afterwards (4 minutes) - IT'S CRAZY!!! You can Google Tabata, but basically you pick any 8 exercises and do them for 20 seconds per exercise then rest 10 seconds after every exercise. I do recommend doing only 2 exercises....Burpees and Mountain-climbers, but if you want to see the fat melt away add some Kettlebell swings and jerks/presses. That will sort out the thighs, backside, shoulders and core. To get that sexy thin mid section, do Abdominal Vacuum Exercises or Stomach Vacuums. Here's a link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9msEniBkbU or here's another link: 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCbf2wqE4Gw
This was what I did, it works for me.
If you do decide to maybe go this route, I would love to get some feedback on your results and experiences.
You guys are welcome to add me as well.
JJ
Ps: for some good Tabata music that includes coaching during the song, send me your email address then I can share one a track through dropbox. Godspeed.
2 things:
Firstly....Happy new year to everyone. Secondly, yesterday I made a stupid comment to a lady that Elliptical trainers are for lazy people. It was a dumb attempt at a stupid joke and for that I do apologize.
I'd like to give you guys some feedback on how I lost 22 pounds in 7 weeks. Nope...it wasn't Winstrol ;-)
I have tried many different diets and many different training regimes, but I came across something that really peaked my interest a while back. I have always thought that spending a lot of time on a daily basis in the gym is a waste of time. I cant imagine what guys are doing in the gym for 2-3 hours daily....maybe it sounds cool when they tell you that.....looking all jacked up like over-grown Spungebobs on Test and D-Bol with all that water retention.
My idea was to be a minimalist. I didn't want to spend more than 40 minutes in the gym and I didn't want to over-think dieting. So here's what I did:
I record my weight, also my caloric intake for that day....I did it every day for a month. By that time I was able to see how my caloric intake effects my weight management....give or take some water weight. If my calories were too high and I started to gain weight...I reduced calories (if you loose weight too fast and you want to just maintain weight....add a tb spoon of peanut butter to your snacking). I then started doing Intermittent Fasting. Here's how I did "IF": Eat 2 to 3 meals in an 8 hour window (feeding window - - 700 calories x 3 meals = 2100 calories/day). I eat from 12pm - 8pm, but you can eat whatever time suits you. At 8pm stop eating until next day 12pm. I drank a lot of water and some Pepsi Max and some black coffee, nothing over 35 calories. Please don't think you are going to die because of not eating for 16 hours...in fact, I have never had so much energy in my life. I really do feel amazing when training in a fasted state and there are so many other health benefits it's not even funny. For you guys that want to make lean gains, studies have shown that IF raises your HGH with between 1800% to 3000% - TAKE THAT DECA!
I exercised in the morning (6am) when my blood sugar levels were at their lowest, this will allow for the glucagen to use body fat as a fuel source for your body and not nutrients from food or supplements.
For exercise....I did my normal weight training program (35 minutes - 2 body parts a day) and some Tabata afterwards (4 minutes) - IT'S CRAZY!!! You can Google Tabata, but basically you pick any 8 exercises and do them for 20 seconds per exercise then rest 10 seconds after every exercise. I do recommend doing only 2 exercises....Burpees and Mountain-climbers, but if you want to see the fat melt away add some Kettlebell swings and jerks/presses. That will sort out the thighs, backside, shoulders and core. To get that sexy thin mid section, do Abdominal Vacuum Exercises or Stomach Vacuums. Here's a link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9msEniBkbU or here's another link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iCbf2wqE4GwThis was what I did, it works for me.
If you do decide to maybe go this route, I would love to get some feedback on your results and experiences.
You guys are welcome to add me as well.
JJ
Ps: for some good Tabata music that includes coaching during the song, send me your email address then I can share one a track through dropbox. Godspeed.
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Doesn't matter if you train fasted or not, makes absolutely no difference. I've hear the argument "if you train fasted then burn fat and not the food you ate" but that's complete bull. If you're eating at a deficit, you will net the same amount of fat loss at the end of the day whether you trained fasted or not. Just count calories, eat at a deficit, eat plenty of protein and fat, lift heavy weights, and you will cut fat0
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you found what works for you, thats great!0
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I personally would feel like I was gonna pass out if I attempted to work out with nothing on my stomach! But if it's worked for you - great stuff!
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I personally would feel like I was gonna pass out if I attempted to work out with nothing on my stomach! But if it's worked for you - great stuff!
Same, I simply cannot achieve as much if I don't have any food in me. It's quite a marked difference.0 -
Do you do the intermittent fasting daily? I've started the 5:2 where you only eat 500 calories for 2 days in the week but if only eating between 12pm and 8pm works the same I think Id prefer to do that. Do you have to eat high calorie meals when you do eat? You suggested 700 for each meal but I think Id struggle to hit that. I don't want to screw up my metabolism by only eating 1000 calories in the feasting period.0
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This.Doesn't matter if you train fasted or not, makes absolutely no difference. I've hear the argument "if you train fasted then burn fat and not the food you ate" but that's complete bull. If you're eating at a deficit, you will net the same amount of fat loss at the end of the day whether you trained fasted or not. Just count calories, eat at a deficit, eat plenty of protein and fat, lift heavy weights, and you will cut fat
You probably had a huge deficit because you were fasting and exercising at the same time.
Let's assume you ate 2100 calories one day and almost 0 the next day.
And then you did 40 minutes of weight training, which I'll estimate to be around 250 calories gone, to be on the safe side counting low.
2100 + 250 = 2350
2350 / 2 = 1175.
So, between the two days, you had a calorie deficit of 2350 calories, which turns out to be 1175 calories per day, a massive deficit which would make you lose roughly 2.5 pounds per week.
Then when you add the water weight you lost because you fasted, exercised and drank coffee, it's no wonder you were able to lose the weight so quickly.
I also lost 22 pounds in roughly 7.5 weeks, but I just didn't eat that much.
It's good that you found something that works for you, but understand it works on the same mechanism as regular calorie counting. This doesn't turn your body into a "fat building furnace" any differently from how normally watching your calories does it. Good on you, though.0 -
I basically just wanted to give some information on how it has worked for me. Intermittent Fasting and HIIT is definitely not a new way of thinking or dieting. This is something that has actually been practiced since the dawn of mankind.....I'm pretty sure that the Croods didn't sit in their cave preparing their 6 meals for the following day. The body is designed in such a manner to not crumble when it does not get food for long periods of time. Just go and ask Duanne "The Rock" Johnson or Hugh Jackman or Henry Cavill...these guys all use IF to get their bodies into shape in the shortest amount of time. Some of these guys fast for up to 36 hours.....and yes, they train in a fasted state.
All of this is just my opinion. It won't work for you if you don't want it to work.0 -
Well.... Technically, everyone is naturally a fat burning furnace.
We all function by burning energy.0 -
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Lol, this is exactly my experience. The first week I started on MFP I lost 7 pounds.Interesting thoughts. You sound like you're following Tom Venuto's advice. Now otoh, you said 22 lbs in 7 weeks, I imagine the first week you lost 7 lbs or so right?0 -
@Touji....to be honest, that's just plain dangerous not eating. Even the people in the Bible that fasted long periods for religious purposes did some form of eating.
If you read my post you will see that I eat 2000 calories DAILY. It's called a "lean-gain fast". I fast for 16 hours then I eat my meals in the 8 hour "Feeding window".0 -
Guys, I'm getting crucified here just for writing about my experience, so thanks for that.
Please note that I have an extremely busy schedule, I literally do not have the time to plan for 6 daily meals. I have to get up at 4am in the morning and work very long hours. This Intermittent Fasting is not a diet for me.....it is a "way of eating". I have to consume my macros in some form or manner and I am not a breakfast person. That is why I have my "BREAK----FAST" at 12pm. It has become a way of living for me....If I need to bulk up, then I add calories and lift heavy...if I want to get super lean, I cut some calories and do more Cardio.
Again...it's just my experience....and it works for me.0 -
I'll have to say that I follow some of what you do. I train fasted every morning and don't eat till after 12pm each day. However I do eat up till 11:30pm each night. I just stick to meeting my calories for the day.
As for training, I train one body part a day 5 days a week with a mix of moderate cardio and HIIT depending on days.
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**** so you are ment to eat 2100 calories a day. What happens if you eat less then that?0
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I need a plan where I lose body fat, but not lose anymore weight. My body fat % is still at around 20%, and visceral fats are at 6.0
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I have just never understood why eating say 2100 calories a day within 8 hours is any different to eating them within 12 hours, but I'll admit I am ignorant on the subject.
I don't agree with some of what you've posted (I for one cannot exercise on an empty stomach), but if it works for you, then great.0 -
Guys, I'm getting crucified here just for writing about my experience, so thanks for that.
If your title wasn't "HOW TO TURN YOUR BODY INTO A FAT BURNING FURNACE!" then people wouldn't be reacting to the hyperbole.
Your post actually states very clearly how you have found your personal key to being successful but you know people skim any blocks of text!
(BTW - I do a different form of IF and sometimes train fasted so I'm not against your methods in any way.)0 -
I have just never understood why eating say 2100 calories a day within 8 hours is any different to eating them within 12 hours, but I'll admit I am ignorant on the subject.
i dont think it is any better it is just different... IF is said to have other health benefits (blood pressure and what not), it's just a different style of eating more than a way of losing weight. the 5:2 diet has made it into a 'diet plan' in recent times.0 -
you found what works for you, thats great!
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I basically just wanted to give some information on how it has worked for me. Intermittent Fasting and HIIT is definitely not a new way of thinking or dieting. This is something that has actually been practiced since the dawn of mankind.....I'm pretty sure that the Croods didn't sit in their cave preparing their 6 meals for the following day. The body is designed in such a manner to not crumble when it does not get food for long periods of time. Just go and ask Duanne "The Rock" Johnson or Hugh Jackman or Henry Cavill...these guys all use IF to get their bodies into shape in the shortest amount of time. Some of these guys fast for up to 36 hours.....and yes, they train in a fasted state.
All of this is just my opinion. It won't work for you if you don't want it to work.
Thanks for sharing your experiences. I mostly eat between around midday and 8 and prefer to go to the gym in the morning and train fasted. I seem to have more energy in the mornings compared to after work and I don't miss not eating beforehand. I prefer to have an 8-9 hour eating window because it helps me control my calories. I'm usually not hungry in the morning anyway, so it's not hard for me to stick to.
It's not for everyone though.
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Wow, lot of hate here. What he is doing not only works for him but will work for anyone. He is just using the natural biomechanics of the body, let me explain...
First and foremost caloric deficit is key as we all know for "weight loss".
Basically by working out in a fasted state you force you body to use a different fuel, stored fat. If you have eaten with in 4 gours of working out your body has stored glycogen that it uses for fuel. Also working out fasted means your Human Growth Hormones are elevated (good) youe Leptin levels are balanced (good) and you insulin resistance is heightened (good).
If all you want is weight loss you can use either method. If you want to keep all lean muscle andonly lose fat you may want to give lean gains a try.0 -
Erm, I think you meant "insulin resistance lowered (good)". Insulin resistance (where the cells resist the normal actions of insulin causing the pancreas to spew out more and more) is bad.
Fasting (allegedly. I'm in no mood to post links for the thousandth time) lowers/improves insulin resistance.0 -
Thank you for this post! It's what my body has told me to do NATURALLY and I've been resisting it all these years just because we're trained to eat BREAK-FAST 1st thing in the morning. I have NEVER wanted to eat anything before noon and have gotten nothing but grief about it my whole life. It's the same for wanting to eating the bulk of my calories in the late afternoon/evening.
It's good to know this cycle of sleeping, exercising and THEN eating isn't going to kill me!
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Thank you for this! I work 12 hour night shifts and do something very similar. I eat from about 2 pm to 10-11pm. I eat my first meal when I get up in the afternoon, eat dinner with my family, and then eat again at work. I work out at 7:30 am before I go to bed. I've tried the whole 6 small meals thing and it's just not for me...I get frustrated trying to plan them out. Not saying there aren't other ways but if you get aggravated and give up on them then they certainly won't work. Stick to what works for YOU! Congrats on the weightloss!0
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Guys, I'm getting crucified here just for writing about my experience, so thanks for that.
If your title wasn't "HOW TO TURN YOUR BODY INTO A FAT BURNING FURNACE!" then people wouldn't be reacting to the hyperbole.
Your post actually states very clearly how you have found your personal key to being successful but you know people skim any blocks of text!
(BTW - I do a different form of IF and sometimes train fasted so I'm not against your methods in any way.)
^I have to agree with this. The title is very sales pitchy and doesn't really set the tone for just sharing a success story with your methods. It puts out "DO THIS IF YOU WANT TO SUCCEED" rather than, "Things I've done that have worked for me and might work for you too"0 -
I workout first thing in the morning, sometimes as early as 5a.m, before I get ready for work etc so I can't eat that early. I workout fasted 0
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I think maybe we're being a bit hard on the OP. What he describes can work absolutely great - it's pretty solid advice. It's not the ONLY way to do it - and I don't think he claimed it was - but it certainly is one of the effective ways.
Personally, I do my runs/rides first thing in the morning, either in a fasted state (if I ate a proper dinner the day before) or with a very light pre-run/ride load (if last big intake was lunch). This works very well for me, and I know from my other active buddies it works well for many of them, too.0
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