Get rid of that sweet tooth: How to quit sugar

AmenoKaji

Haha, whaaaaaaaat? Where did I "preach" down to you? I stated a FACT. 9 GRAMS OF SUGAR direct from the ingredient label.

I ate 4 total grams of sugar today. That's pretty normal for me. There's days when I may approach 10-15 because of fruit or Greek yogurt, but again, like my other post said above there, I eat them sparingly.

I've tried Shakeology. I wasted a lot of money on two bags of the stuff. And yeah, yeah, I know the ingredient list and all that stuff. But before you jump down my throat for "bashing" your product, hear me out - the stuff is SWEET. Beyond sickening sweet. When some of us have something THAT sweet in flavor, it triggers a chain reaction of sugar cravings for the rest of the day. It basically renders the product useless as it's not very filling and just triggers cravings.

And blah blah blah....

So before you jump on the bash BarneyStinson train, get YOUR post straight.

Hm my post didn't go through. Anyway, majority of my post was meant for the person below you, they just weren't quoted in there although I thought they were. I figured the paragraph spacing was enough to point that out but I guess not. She was the one preaching. You're the one being extreme about sugar intake.

Sweet is subjective to a person's taste buds. 9grams of sugar is not sweet to me. None of the Shakeology drinks are sweet to me, nor do any of them trigger any sugar cravings. I have been told by people that like the Greenberry drink that they find it sweet but I have never found the drink to be sweet in the slightest and the chocolate taste like a hershey syrup/hot chocolate to me, almost close to dark chocolate but not quite. I hate dark chocolate, where as other people love it. As I stated previous, good for you and your low sugar diet. I eat up to 30grams at the bare minimal of my diet. Sugars aren't something I aim low for, only carbs. But since I am mainly a high protein person, its usually low, except for when I am drinking milk. (Which I refuse to give up )

The point is this. You and the other poster are jumping on someone because they said Shakeology helped them. What's your problem? You should be happy that it helped them, even if it didn't help you. Since you said you purchased it twice, which is a shame that it didn't work in your favor. It did have its money back guarantee if it didn't work for you so you must have been hopeful. It fills and curbs others sugar craving. If drinking it triggers a sugar craving for you, that is related purely to the fact of your low sugar diet and likely your mentality towards sugar. In short, you're dieting in a area where youre low in sugar but you taste something that you find sweet (Sweet as in, you're mentally comparing it to say.. a doughtnut or a candy bar, something with a high amount of sugar grams, also your own taste buds playing a role as well) and you're kicked back into that binge habit. That's on you alone, sorry. thats just my opionion. If you don't have the willpower to resist temptation, you're the only one to blame. No one is force feeding you or making you eat the sugar, so you're doing what you need for YOUR diet. Again, Look at your words, SOME OF US. Not all of you. Which is my point. I see your side but you refuse to see anyone elses point but your own. I'll be honest I don't frequent these boards but Im not going to outright bash someone for their opionion.

Edit: I can also add that everyone has some addictive trigger at one point or another. I believe in eating a diet that works for you, that is healthy, but that isn't extreme, unless you're after results of a specific kind. If I was competition prrepping, then my diet would be more strict than it already is at the moment. Throwing yourself into a extremely strict diet, is a dangerous area that will more often than not, lead to yo-yo like results. and I know this through my own trial and error until I found what works for ME. What works for me may not work for you or the next person. That's just how the world turns.

That is also a great Story Paige, I found my biggest weight loss came when I dropped salt and butter for several weeks, they're back in my diet now but in different forms. I like how it takes a little bit of kosher salt to really bring out the flavor in something, where as before it was like I needed a mound of table salt to get any flavor.

gebona

<HUGS> Becca :flowerforyou:

AmenoKaji

I wasn't talking about the protien you eat, I was refering to muscle in your body. I was shocked when I read it too, but I will go back and double check it.

You might have read something about the liver making glucose by breaking down muscle protein/tissue, but I am not 100% on that.

bubbab666

Got rid of my cravings with shakeology nutrition drink. Simple!

There is sugar in those shakes, hun.

You know you can't completely deplete the body of sugars. That and sugar in Shakeology is minimal at best anyway and is natural, Considering its made with mostly fruits and vegetables. Its even been recently certified to have a lower GI score than Apples as well. http://images.beachbody.com/pdf/Shakeology_LowGI.pdf

If you'd like to talk about it more feel free to PM, don't want to hijack this nice thread.

It's 9 grams of added crystalline fructose.

That's not exactly "natural" sugar.

Its 9 grams, if you're really going to cry over that, you must live on a very strict diet. But you sir are very awesome indeed for doing what works for you. But If you/anyone eat yogurts(lord only knows how many items have a sugar in them "natural" or not) of any kind you've likely eaten some form of half natural/half artifical sweetener. As far as I know fructose (noT HFCS), is a perfectly okay form of sugar. Its not my place to nitpick over the type of sugars, as long as its not HFCS or proven to be adversely bad for consumption anyway. needless to say my sugar ranges from 20 to 30grams any given day.

IF you honestly haven't tried one, you can't claim anything against it for your reasons for not using it come out to be the same as someone dismissing, either going to the gym because they do workouts and run at home, or someone that dismisses home fitness dvds because they go to the gym. All while never trying to the options. Whatever works for you, works for you, we get that, but it gives you no right to preach down anyone elses opionion of what worked for them.

Then answer isn't shakeology, its whatever helps you get healthy, it was under MY understanding that anyone is free to post what works for them. Not a single person except you, has dismissed someone elses post. Simple as that, 9 grams of sugar for one meal with healthy benefits. (gasp, one people say have helped them beat other food cravings.)Is and will be far better than eating a twinkie. Its about replacing something horrible with something healthy. But since you haven't tried it and won't, its only your loss for not seeing if there are any benefits of having it in your diet. thats your choice and no one is forcing that on you. Considering its made from GASP OMG REAL FOODs but turned into a powder and brings a caloric value, and is consumed and provides fuel its still a source of energy or AKA food.

Good day to you.


Edit: I also dig your NPH picture, if you haven't already, check out Dr Horrible's blog.

Haha, whaaaaaaaat? Where did I "preach" down to you? I stated a FACT. 9 GRAMS OF SUGAR direct from the ingredient label.

I ate 4 total grams of sugar today. That's pretty normal for me. There's days when I may approach 10-15 because of fruit or Greek yogurt, but again, like my other post said above there, I eat them sparingly.

I've tried Shakeology. I wasted a lot of money on two bags of the stuff. And yeah, yeah, I know the ingredient list and all that stuff. But before you jump down my throat for "bashing" your product, hear me out - the stuff is SWEET. Beyond sickening sweet. When some of us have something THAT sweet in flavor, it triggers a chain reaction of sugar cravings for the rest of the day. It basically renders the product useless as it's not very filling and just triggers cravings.

And blah blah blah....

So before you jump on the bash BarneyStinson train, get YOUR post straight.

Barney's posts are dead-on IMO.
Kudos to the thread starter. INSULIN Management is KEY.
SUgars are sugars, natural or not. They cause larger insulin spikes in many cases than starches. The trend in ingredients these days is fructose... They bank on the fact that people fall for the " natural is good" gimmick. Cocaine is natural, arsenic is natural. If a food has packaging that is trying to "inform" you of anything it is 99% not REAL food.
Sorry, i'm rambling. Need to get to bed.

Barneystinson

Got rid of my cravings with shakeology nutrition drink. Simple!

There is sugar in those shakes, hun.

You know you can't completely deplete the body of sugars. That and sugar in Shakeology is minimal at best anyway and is natural, Considering its made with mostly fruits and vegetables. Its even been recently certified to have a lower GI score than Apples as well. http://images.beachbody.com/pdf/Shakeology_LowGI.pdf

If you'd like to talk about it more feel free to PM, don't want to hijack this nice thread.

It's 9 grams of added crystalline fructose.

That's not exactly "natural" sugar.

Its 9 grams, if you're really going to cry over that, you must live on a very strict diet. But you sir are very awesome indeed for doing what works for you. But If you/anyone eat yogurts(lord only knows how many items have a sugar in them "natural" or not) of any kind you've likely eaten some form of half natural/half artifical sweetener. As far as I know fructose (noT HFCS), is a perfectly okay form of sugar. Its not my place to nitpick over the type of sugars, as long as its not HFCS or proven to be adversely bad for consumption anyway. needless to say my sugar ranges from 20 to 30grams any given day.

IF you honestly haven't tried one, you can't claim anything against it for your reasons for not using it come out to be the same as someone dismissing, either going to the gym because they do workouts and run at home, or someone that dismisses home fitness dvds because they go to the gym. All while never trying to the options. Whatever works for you, works for you, we get that, but it gives you no right to preach down anyone elses opionion of what worked for them.

Then answer isn't shakeology, its whatever helps you get healthy, it was under MY understanding that anyone is free to post what works for them. Not a single person except you, has dismissed someone elses post. Simple as that, 9 grams of sugar for one meal with healthy benefits. (gasp, one people say have helped them beat other food cravings.)Is and will be far better than eating a twinkie. Its about replacing something horrible with something healthy. But since you haven't tried it and won't, its only your loss for not seeing if there are any benefits of having it in your diet. thats your choice and no one is forcing that on you. Considering its made from GASP OMG REAL FOODs but turned into a powder and brings a caloric value, and is consumed and provides fuel its still a source of energy or AKA food.

Good day to you.


Edit: I also dig your NPH picture, if you haven't already, check out Dr Horrible's blog.

Haha, whaaaaaaaat? Where did I "preach" down to you? I stated a FACT. 9 GRAMS OF SUGAR direct from the ingredient label.

I ate 4 total grams of sugar today. That's pretty normal for me. There's days when I may approach 10-15 because of fruit or Greek yogurt, but again, like my other post said above there, I eat them sparingly.

I've tried Shakeology. I wasted a lot of money on two bags of the stuff. And yeah, yeah, I know the ingredient list and all that stuff. But before you jump down my throat for "bashing" your product, hear me out - the stuff is SWEET. Beyond sickening sweet. When some of us have something THAT sweet in flavor, it triggers a chain reaction of sugar cravings for the rest of the day. It basically renders the product useless as it's not very filling and just triggers cravings.

And blah blah blah....

So before you jump on the bash BarneyStinson train, get YOUR post straight.

Barney's posts are dead-on IMO.
Kudos to the thread starter. INSULIN Management is KEY.
SUgars are sugars, natural or not. They cause larger insulin spikes in many cases than starches. The trend in ingredients these days is fructose... They bank on the fact that people fall for the " natural is good" gimmick. Cocaine is natural, arsenic is natural. If a food has packaging that is trying to "inform" you of anything it is 99% not REAL food.
Sorry, i'm rambling. Need to get to bed.

Thank you.

Good point on the insulin spikes - it's often something that's overlooked. I'm not a diabetic but have tested my blood sugar to see the effects of various sweets. My fasting BG level is 60-70. After a piece of cake and ice cream (estimated 40 grams of sugar), it doubled - 145. It maintained near that at 4 hours post, then came back down. Items with 15-20 grams of sugar, let's say a smoothie prepared with yogurt and fruit, will usually take it up to 105. 105 isn't bad, but anything over 100 isn't preferable.

So, even for someone with extremely healthy blood sugar levels, even a "moderate" amount of sweets can spike blood sugar, and usually trigger cravings. Re-reading my rebuttal regarding Shakeology, yeah, the post was a bit immature in tone and wasn't meant as an offense to anyone. I'm still not convinced that it's an ideal solution for most who try it and there are considerably cheaper options out there with far less sugar (see recipe below...)

Most all of us can create energy drinks at home from whole food sources that don't create insulin spikes. Here's my go to post workout shake, a good source of wholesome fat and protein that keeps me good and full for 3-4 hours...I buy the ingredients in bulk and get the eggs locally to keep cost down...

1/3 cup of coconut milk
1 -2 eggs, raw (or, alternatively 1/3 cup eggbeaters - they're pasteurized for safety)
1/2 cup of ice water
3 ice cubes
1 T cocoa powder (100%, unsweetened - Ghiradelli's is really good)
1 T ground flax
1/2 T flax oil (awesome Omega 3 source)
1 packet (or several drops) pure stevia extract
handful of spinach (sounds gross, but hear me out, it blends in with a nice texture)
OPTIONAL - 1 oz raspberries or blueberries, nicer if frozen
OPTIONAL - protein powder

Blend and enjoy.

AmenoKaji

Thank you.

Good point on the insulin spikes - it's often something that's overlooked. I'm not a diabetic but have tested my blood sugar to see the effects of various sweets. My fasting BG level is 60-70. After a piece of cake and ice cream (estimated 40 grams of sugar), it doubled - 145. It maintained near that at 4 hours post, then came back down. Items with 15-20 grams of sugar, let's say a smoothie prepared with yogurt and fruit, will usually take it up to 105. 105 isn't bad, but anything over 100 isn't preferable.

So, even for someone with extremely healthy blood sugar levels, even a "moderate" amount of sweets can spike blood sugar, and usually trigger cravings. Re-reading my rebuttal regarding Shakeology, yeah, the post was a bit immature in tone and wasn't meant as an offense to anyone. I'm still not convinced that it's an ideal solution for most who try it and there are considerably cheaper options out there with far less sugar (see recipe below...)

Most all of us can create energy drinks at home from whole food sources that don't create insulin spikes. Here's my go to post workout shake, a good source of wholesome fat and protein that keeps me good and full for 3-4 hours...I buy the ingredients in bulk and get the eggs locally to keep cost down...

1/3 cup of coconut milk
1 -2 eggs, raw (or, alternatively 1/3 cup eggbeaters - they're pasteurized for safety)
1/2 cup of ice water
3 ice cubes
1 T cocoa powder (100%, unsweetened - Ghiradelli's is really good)
1 T ground flax
1/2 T flax oil (awesome Omega 3 source)
1 packet (or several drops) pure stevia extract
handful of spinach (sounds gross, but hear me out, it blends in with a nice texture)
OPTIONAL - 1 oz raspberries or blueberries, nicer if frozen
OPTIONAL - protein powder

Blend and enjoy.

Its cool, I could have clarified it better. Trust me, by no means do I expect someone to buy/use Shakeology if they have alternate means. But it has worked in my favor, I can only say Im' sorry it didn't work for you. When it comes to health and budget however, its whatever keeps you alive/anyone alive. The main reason I use Shakeology besides all of the benefits you've heard about is because still as a picky eater(only certain fruits, and very few vegetables.), it is the easist/quickest way for me to take in a vegetable/fruit source. i'm a coach, its only 90 bucks for me, so its worth the price for me since it meets things I have been deficient in most of my life.

I will only recommend things that I know have worked for me and I pay/trust to use and think its worth the money. Like I could never recommend the beachbody protein, because I think its formula is horrible and that its overpriced, I will and do point to other protein brands I use and or have used based on taste or price range.

That's a great postworkout right there. For my omega 3/6/9s, i use this in my shakes http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/now/fiber3.html (only one of the fiber/omega sources i take) my post workout is always a single (cardio) or double scoop of whey protein, in a cup of skim milk or Calorie Countdown (if its available). the mentioned powder. the optionals for me comes down to what I feel like at the time, but thats the standard, sometimes its a small banana/half of one, or blueberries.

I use to be 440lbs, I use to be dangerously close to being diabetic too at one point as well. I do know the effects of extremely high sugar levels on my own body, slight insulin spikes here and there from an intake of sugar hasn't been a big deal for me, simply because my diet is still low in sugar (mostly from the skim milk i drink.)overall for the entire day. I workout twice in most days and the milk is in my protein shake directly after a workout. Fructose, isn't a sugar that bothers me unless its HIgh Fructose Corn Syrup (AKA the crap empty sugar source in 95% of all products that are on store shelves)

Crap snackcakes and candybars with HFCS are the only things that I eat that will cause that, craving, to keep eating more sugar, of course thats by their design anyway.

Paige1108

Not all "sugars" are the the same. That's why there is a Glycemic Index. I don't care where you eat on the index, but it's good to be aware that there can be a very big difference in insulin reaction from one "sugar" to another.

HealthyChanges2010

sugar bump

karissastephens

bummpppo

HealthyChanges2010

bummpppo

perfect timing for me Karissa:flowerforyou: , saw the chocolate bar on another thread and wanted to lick the screen:blushing: but stopped myself just in time.:smokin:

Madrow

bump

Acg67

"The second way is to eat a diet that has a low "glycaemic load" (GL). The "glycaemic index" tells us how quickly the sugar from certain foods is released into the blood stream. What it doesn't tell you is how much of that food is sugar. Holford says that it is better to control the amount of sugar we eat. "Atkins limited the amount of carbs, but didn't pay so much attention to the GI," says Holford. "The GI diet limits the fast-releasing GI sugars but doesn't pay enough attention to the quantity eaten."

For example: any food with a GI food of more than 70 is considered bad. Watermelon scores 72, but in a 120g slice there are only six grams of sugar. The sugar is released very quickly into the blood stream but there is not much of it.
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GI has no real world relevance, the GI index was created feeding isocaloric amounts of different foods on fasted subjects, since not many of us consume foods totally fasted or isocalorically it has little relevance

and if you are using GI for instance, watermelon as you pointed out is "bad" yet Snickers bars and Nutella is fine since it has a low GI. (I love me some Nutella and that will never be cut out of my diet)