420?? legal?

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  • elusive_design
    elusive_design Posts: 1,095 Member
    Khat is a mild stimulant, produces similiar effects to meth but more.. random. Some people it hits like coffee, others it's like the just dumped a teaspoon of crystal in their coffee. Iboga is a mild hallucinogen that also has uses in treating opiate addiction. Both grow in africa
  • letobot
    letobot Posts: 205
    Doesn't get my vote.

    Personally I think pot is a highly addictive substance that is often times a gateway to harder drugs. Legalizing it sends a message to kids that society condones the usage of drugs for recreational purposes. I also believe that legalizing marijuana will just create a new base of consumers in addition to the ones already using it.

    I don't want to live in a society of people unable to make informed, rational and logical decisions as a result of being under the influence.


    But alcohol and tobacco are ok? These two take the cake for "highly addictive substances." Alcohol is the biggest culprit for producing a society of people unable to make informed, rational and logical decisions as a result of being under the influence. How many deaths have occurred due to marijuana usage, as opposed to alcohol and tobacco?


    As for me? Yes, legalize it.
  • lookin4gains
    lookin4gains Posts: 1,761 Member
    The effects are much less harmful to the body and mind than alcohol. So in that perspective who cares if people smoke when they are enjoying their time off. It's enjoyable, but requires balance just like anything else. I have met some fully functional potheads that go to work and are high all day. I've also met people who can't do anything when they are high. All depends on the person. With that being said, I think it should be regulated just like alcohol. There is a time and place. If I go to a business and require assistance I don't want a dear in the headlights look, waiting a couple minutes while the wheels turn for a simple question. Also, many people may disagree with me, but your decision making is much slower when you are high. So I don't think driving stoned should be legal. Now obviously there is no way to test this legally. But people need to use their judgment. And after seeing the prices here in Denver the government is obviously making a fortune taxing pot. I'm talking almost a 30% increase over street value. Pretty absurd to me but hey, to each their own.
  • No_Finish_Line
    No_Finish_Line Posts: 3,661 Member
    i wonder if anyone makes use of those drop boxes at the airport.

    i mean come on, just roll a really fat one before you go lol.

    also wonder what happens with the pot in the drop box
  • DSTMT
    DSTMT Posts: 417 Member

    Exactly, it can be psychologically addictive, as can chocolate, or masturbating, or anything lol but it doesn't produce a chemical addiction the way other things do, like say cigarettes and alcohol. You may kick the sheets a bit after stopping if you're psychologically addicted, but you won't have actual physical withdrawal.

    i don't think people get bed sweats when they stop eating chocolate.

    although i've only heard one other person say that its happend to them.

    i honestly thought i had pissed myself the first time it happend, till i realized my hair was soaking wet too.

    Well then maybe you're the special snowflake that can get physically addicted to it lol...j/k, I'm not trying to be argumentative, but really there's a lot of explanations for bed sweats that might not be directly related to a physical withdrawal from weed. Indirectly even maybe, but one would have to really look at all the variables and science and studies say that pot is not physically addictive.
  • No_Finish_Line
    No_Finish_Line Posts: 3,661 Member

    Exactly, it can be psychologically addictive, as can chocolate, or masturbating, or anything lol but it doesn't produce a chemical addiction the way other things do, like say cigarettes and alcohol. You may kick the sheets a bit after stopping if you're psychologically addicted, but you won't have actual physical withdrawal.

    i don't think people get bed sweats when they stop eating chocolate.

    although i've only heard one other person say that its happend to them.

    i honestly thought i had pissed myself the first time it happend, till i realized my hair was soaking wet too.

    Well then maybe you're the special snowflake that can get physically addicted to it lol...j/k, I'm not trying to be argumentative, but really there's a lot of explanations for bed sweats that might not be directly related to a physical withdrawal from weed. Indirectly even maybe, but one would have to really look at all the variables and science and studies say that pot is not physically addictive.

    so i've been told since college.

    i think the truth is that any psychoactive drug could result in a physical 'dependancy' given the right circumstances.

    when it first happend i had probably gone about 15 years stright smoking multiple times every day, and then one day off lol. (not something i'm proud of, but not something i'm altogether ashamed of either).

    perhaps its not technically a physical addiction, but once a phsycological addiction begins manifesting itself in physical withdrawal symptoms, the line between the seems very fine to me.
  • DSTMT
    DSTMT Posts: 417 Member

    Exactly, it can be psychologically addictive, as can chocolate, or masturbating, or anything lol but it doesn't produce a chemical addiction the way other things do, like say cigarettes and alcohol. You may kick the sheets a bit after stopping if you're psychologically addicted, but you won't have actual physical withdrawal.

    i don't think people get bed sweats when they stop eating chocolate.

    although i've only heard one other person say that its happend to them.

    i honestly thought i had pissed myself the first time it happend, till i realized my hair was soaking wet too.

    Well then maybe you're the special snowflake that can get physically addicted to it lol...j/k, I'm not trying to be argumentative, but really there's a lot of explanations for bed sweats that might not be directly related to a physical withdrawal from weed. Indirectly even maybe, but one would have to really look at all the variables and science and studies say that pot is not physically addictive.

    so i've been told since college.

    i think the truth is that any psychoactive drug could result in a physical 'dependancy' given the right circumstances.

    when it first happend i had probably gone about 15 years stright smoking multiple times every day, and then one day off lol. (not something i'm proud of, but not something i'm altogether ashamed of either).

    perhaps its not technically a physical addiction, but once a phsycological addiction begins manifesting itself in physical withdrawal symptoms, the line between the seems very fine to me.

    Fair enough, I can see what you're saying!
  • TheRoadDog
    TheRoadDog Posts: 11,788 Member
    Doesn't get my vote.

    Personally I think pot is a highly addictive substance that is often times a gateway to harder drugs. Legalizing it sends a message to kids that society condones the usage of drugs for recreational purposes. I also believe that legalizing marijuana will just create a new base of consumers in addition to the ones already using it.

    I don't want to live in a society of people unable to make informed, rational and logical decisions as a result of being under the influence.

    It's not addictive. My cousin has been smoking pot every day since he graduated HS in 1975. Can't get a decent job now because he can't pass the drug screening. But he can quit anytime he wants to. Ask his wife. He told her he quit 15 years ago. Still fires up a joint every day. Just doesn't tell her. If you don't get caught, you're not cheating.

    I don't think pot is any worse than alcohol. But it is against company policy. So I doubt I wlill ever smoke again, but, if I do, it won;t be wwhen it might be able to jeopardize the financial security of my family. Until then, I'll have another drink.
  • No_Finish_Line
    No_Finish_Line Posts: 3,661 Member
    It's not addictive...

    Can't get a decent job now because he can't pass the drug screening. But he can quit anytime he wants to.

    L

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    I'm sorry, obviously i'm not anti pot, but if you value drug use above your lively hood, then you're and addict.

    or am in missing the sarcasm?
  • FJcntdwn2sknyluv
    FJcntdwn2sknyluv Posts: 651 Member
    should be nationwide

    THIS!
  • buffermarie
    buffermarie Posts: 54 Member
    As a resident of Colorado I must say.... it's flippin' awesome! The tax is the only bad thing about it.
    #puffpuffpass
  • PennyM140
    PennyM140 Posts: 423 Member
    It should be legal, shouldn't be taxed. Law enforcement should be put to better use.
  • salembambi
    salembambi Posts: 5,585 Member
    dope is for trailer park losers


    im from a trailer park & a loser so give me all your dope please

    no seriously

    i need it right now :ohwell:
  • MCarbary
    MCarbary Posts: 48 Member
    It damn sure should be! I smoke everyday and I am a healthy,educated and successful at what I do for a living. The media demonizes us as lazy,unproductive and un educated. Well I have new for you I'M MIGHT BE STONED BUT I'M NOT STUPID!
  • No_Finish_Line
    No_Finish_Line Posts: 3,661 Member
    the most unhealthy thing about it is that its typically smoked
  • JnK619
    JnK619 Posts: 320
    It's not addictive. My cousin has been smoking pot every day since he graduated HS in 1975. Can't get a decent job now because he can't pass the drug screening. But he can quit anytime he wants to. Ask his wife. He told her he quit 15 years ago. Still fires up a joint every day. Just doesn't tell her. If you don't get caught, you're not cheating.

    I don't think pot is any worse than alcohol. But it is against company policy. So I doubt I wlill ever smoke again, but, if I do, it won;t be wwhen it might be able to jeopardize the financial security of my family. Until then, I'll have another drink.
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    Nicely done! I know some people that wont try and work for places that test, its a choice. They are usually ready to accept lower paying jobs so they can conitnue to smoke. Not to say that all jobs that don't test are lower paying (before I get killed on here) I'm just speaking of some friends of mine. If my job tested for alcohol, my liver would be very happy!
  • DSTMT
    DSTMT Posts: 417 Member
    the most unhealthy thing about it is that its typically smoked

    Actually this is interesting....http://pulmccm.org/main/2012/asthma-review/infrequent-pot-smokers-have-better-lung-function-than-non-tokers-jama/

    I know that article is from 2012, I read a more recent one a while ago basically saying the same thing, but I can't find it right now for some reason.
  • DSTMT
    DSTMT Posts: 417 Member
    Very sad, but probably literally the only documented death directly linked to marijuana consumption, and even then he fell, he didn't OD or anything. I wonder how many people have fallen to their deaths after drinking too much over the years, especially at colleges/universities.
  • Timshel_
    Timshel_ Posts: 22,834 Member
    I don't care really.
  • dwm2112
    dwm2112 Posts: 77 Member
    I have a libertarian ideology, so I think it should be legal everywhere in the U.S. That being said, I think it can function as a gateway drug, and don't want to be on the road with a bunch of stoned people. Weed impairs judgment and reaction time, and inhibits motivation; those are scientifically proven facts. So many people like to smoke weed and will do so whether it is legal or not. I choose not to smoke it (anymore :bigsmile: ), so I will just find a way to make lots of money from all the stoners!

    But alcohol is legal and it impairs your judgement and reaction time far worse than MJ!! I think stoned drivers are far more cautious than drunk drivers!!

    Alcohol is legal, but driving under its influence is not. I didn't say marijuana should not be legal. I expressed concern for driving safety. Drivers under the influence of marijuana may think they're being cautious, but that's subjective and irrelevant. They have impaired judgment (that's a scientific fact), meaning they are not necessarily capable of correctly assessing the ever-changing conditions of driving. In addition, their reaction times are increased (another scientific fact), meaning they are less capable of navigating hazardous situations brought about by their impaired judgment. Result: increased motor vehicle accidents, injuries, and fatalities.
  • dwm2112
    dwm2112 Posts: 77 Member
    I have a libertarian ideology, so I think it should be legal everywhere in the U.S. That being said, I think it can function as a gateway drug, and don't want to be on the road with a bunch of stoned people. Weed impairs judgment and reaction time, and inhibits motivation; those are scientifically proven facts. So many people like to smoke weed and will do so whether it is legal or not. I choose not to smoke it (anymore :bigsmile: ), so I will just find a way to make lots of money from all the stoners!

    But alcohol is legal and it impairs your judgement and reaction time far worse than MJ!! I think stoned drivers are far more cautious than drunk drivers!!

    I've always thought it was so odd that drinking and driving is more accepted. I've never been so stoned that I couldn't drive. wee...maybe once or twice, but not normally. Typically, you can get a bit stoned, and drive awesome. I'm not saying your driving isn't impaired. It is. Driving under the influence of any drug is impaired driving and I do not condone it. However, when comparing pot and alcohol, I would rather be driving in traffic with a stoner than with a drunk. Any day, any time.

    I'd rather be driving in traffic where the drivers aren't impaired.
  • _NAUTILUS_
    _NAUTILUS_ Posts: 239 Member
    Ev'y lil thing..... gonna be alright!


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  • MagnumBurrito
    MagnumBurrito Posts: 1,070 Member
    You ever seen anyone on the show intervention because of weed....
  • _Calypso_
    _Calypso_ Posts: 1,074 Member
    I have a libertarian ideology, so I think it should be legal everywhere in the U.S. That being said, I think it can function as a gateway drug, and don't want to be on the road with a bunch of stoned people. Weed impairs judgment and reaction time, and inhibits motivation; those are scientifically proven facts. So many people like to smoke weed and will do so whether it is legal or not. I choose not to smoke it (anymore :bigsmile: ), so I will just find a way to make lots of money from all the stoners!

    But alcohol is legal and it impairs your judgement and reaction time far worse than MJ!! I think stoned drivers are far more cautious than drunk drivers!!

    Alcohol is legal, but driving under its influence is not. I didn't say marijuana should not be legal. I expressed concern for driving safety. Drivers under the influence of marijuana may think they're being cautious, but that's subjective and irrelevant. They have impaired judgment (that's a scientific fact), meaning they are not necessarily capable of correctly assessing the ever-changing conditions of driving. In addition, their reaction times are increased (another scientific fact), meaning they are less capable of navigating hazardous situations brought about by their impaired judgment. Result: increased motor vehicle accidents, injuries, and fatalities.

    I understand that and I already replied... but I will say it again. I would assume that if/when MJ is legalized it too will be illegal to do so and drive. However there are many other things out there that impair judgement and reaction time. OTC cold meds, Rx drugs, sleep deprivation, etc. None of which are illegal to do whilst driving.

    So again I state that even though drinking and driving and toking and driving are illegal... it is done on daily basis. And if I need to be in a car or on the road with someone who is impaired... I'd choose the stoner road over the drunk road.
  • Cali_Chica
    Cali_Chica Posts: 895 Member
    Doesn't get my vote.

    Personally I think pot is a highly addictive substance that is often times a gateway to harder drugs. Legalizing it sends a message to kids that society condones the usage of drugs for recreational purposes. I also believe that legalizing marijuana will just create a new base of consumers in addition to the ones already using it.

    I don't want to live in a society of people unable to make informed, rational and logical decisions as a result of being under the influence.

    But we currently live in a society where people don't make informed, rational, logical decisions.. as evidenced by this poorly thought out post of outdated myths you're trying to pass off as something intelligent.

    Exactly, you make an excellent point. This country is full of ignorant and illogical decision makers. They already exercise their right to be dumb. Do we want to give them rights to be dumb AND high? Scary recipe...
  • _Lovely77_
    _Lovely77_ Posts: 993 Member
    Just moved to colorado, best believe I will be smoking or baking or making tea at some point when it's my time to relax. As I would have done before I moved by sitting down with a glass of wine at dinner on the weekends. It's not a gateway drug, you know what a gateway drug really is? People, people are gateway drugs. Those who offer you real drugs and those who say yes to those offers
  • Xxoxo
    Xxoxo Posts: 233
    Ev'y lil thing..... gonna be alright!


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    Lol! Oh lawd have mercy....:sick:
  • _Calypso_
    _Calypso_ Posts: 1,074 Member
    Ev'y lil thing..... gonna be alright!


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    :drinker:
    Have to use the little drinker - there is no "puff puff pass" emoticon. LOL
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