4.5mph is WALKING? Really?

ladyraven68

I run at between 8kph and 9kph , which is 5 - 5.6mph.
I am only 4ft 11, and there is no way I could walk at 4,5mph

People who think us shorties are *jogging* need to realise our legs are much shorter so have to work twice as hard.

When I used to run regularly my husband used to finish the 10k race before I'd even got to 5k, but I was trying just as hard as he was!!



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Erinslove

That is TOTALLY running for me too! I have always had a slow pace and I have been a runner for years. Road races and a marathon to boot! I get all the great results I need going at my very own pace. Keep feeling great regardless of what it says when you log it! You are doing awesome.

britexmom

add your own exercise to the databae. for me the fastest i care to walk at is 4mph, then i have a gap because the slowest i run at is 5pmph....so everything inbetween is no mans land for me, its just not comfortable. i created my own exercise of intervals of walking/running and input my own calorie burn instead of someone elses.

muddyventures

Funny that you post this, I can barely walk at 4.5 and it looks like I should be breaking into a run (not comfortable). I run between 5 adn 5.6 right now. My husban went 'running' with me this last weekend and I slugged him in the should when he started walking next to me running. He's 6.0

amc2509

I normally walk between 4 and 4.5mph... I'm 5'4 and have a 29" leg. I have always been a fast walker. This is walking outside tho, not on a TM. I couldn't jog at 4.5mph on a TM, I'd be really awkward, min jog speed would have to be greater than 5mph to be comfortable. So I guess it does depend on the person... I did read a thread on here before that you burn more cals generally running over the same distance than walking, but this rule is overturned at speeds over 4mph, i.e. walking 1 mile at 4.5mph burns more cals than running 1 mile at 4.5mph... there was a medical article or something about it. I'll try and dig it out.

Interesting topic...

butterflyliz32

Well then I'm doing something wrong because it's running for me.

I bring this up because I have to put in "very, very brisk walking" as my cardio on my run days, but I AM running at 4.5. Actually I am running at 4.7mph for most of my run, but that isn't an option. It's 4.5 or 5.

Any chance the "middle mileages" can be added in?? And maybe just have it "moving" at the mph? I feel so accomplished when I'm at the gym, then I get home, enter it in here, and feel so bad because this site doesn't think I'm running at 4.5mph.

I am 5'3 and anything over 4.5 is running for me as well. I think it has to do with short legs. I would definitely go with the HRM results and logging it yourself. I know that the time/activity level on here is not always acurate, as I have found with trying to add in DVD workouts.

stormieweather

Everyone is different. There is no pace that determines if you're walking or running. It's the effort involved.

Also, jogging = running. And it's more exercise than a couch potato gets.


A quote from runner's world:

If you've ever felt bad because you missed a run... you might be a runner.

If you know what a Pace is... you might be a runner.

If you've ever made someone feel bad for trying... you might be a jerk.

rainunrefined

I would suggest getting a heart rate monitor- one with a strap not just a watch you will get a more accurate calories burned, and be able to enter in your own work outs.

I agree.

ladybg81

I'm tall so 4.5 is very, very brisk walking for me. But I jog at anything over 4.0 for the extra work.

Chairless

im 5" 7, anything over 2.5 mph is a run for me.

timjai

I can average a tiny amount of 4mph.... can't imagine walking any faster without breaking out in a jog!

LishieFruit89

You can totally add it to the database.
That's what I did for some of the intermediate speeds.

JenniLisette

That sounds like a jog rather than a run. I would say 6 mph is running?

yes....my trainer says the same 1-4 is walking, 4.5-6 jogging, and thing more is running..altho wen im at 4.5 i am heavey jogging so i put it in as 5 mph! :flowerforyou:

chevy88grl

That sounds like a jog rather than a run. I would say 6 mph is running?

For someone like me with extremely short legs, 4.5 is a fast jog. I'm outright running by the time I get to 5.0. My poor stubby legs struggle at 6.0.

amc2509

OK, so this is the article I was referring to... It's at 5mph that the burn for walking is more than jogging... Imagine walking at 5mph OMG!!!

http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/247593-calories-running-versus-walking?hl=Energy+Expenditure+of+Walking+and+Running#posts-3270299

lindawayne11

Sounds like its geared more for men then women. I slow jog (warm-up) at 4.5 and jog my max at 5.0. My hubby jogs at about 6 and is at a fast, comfortable walk at 4.5.

slay0r

I can walk at about 4.5 when I'm hurrying,definitely not jogging or I'd go about it a different way. Anything above that though and I'd have to break into a really light jog. Can get up to about 8 when I'm running comfortably so that's about right I think. 4 walk, 6 jog, 8 run for me (7 feels like it's a bit in the middle, don't like it!)

maddiedog22

Im 5'2 and I walk 4.5 but when I run it's at a 6.5. It is possible to walk 4.5

ladyraven68

Im 5'2 and I walk 4.5 but when I run it's at a 6.5. It is possible to walk 4.5

4.5 miles per hour, or km per hour?

galegetsthin

I think it has so much to do with leg length and stride distance. I am 5'9" with REALLY long legs, so for me, I can "walk" up to 5.2 mph before I have to classify it as a jog. If it feels like a jog, treat it like a jog. I would get a HRM and use that. It is WAAAAY more accurate anyway. MFP tends to overestimate calories burned in my case.

maddiedog22

Yes mph!

RoosterB

I'm 6 foot with 33inch inside leg. Went for what I would call a fast walk yesterday. Ok some was uphill, but averaged 3.8mph.

BerryH

That sounds like a jog rather than a run. I would say 6 mph is running?

Everything faster than a walk is running, and whatever speed that is is relative to the runner. Both feet leave the ground? You're running

MrsSWW

I always thought that when speed walkers have both feet off the ground it is classed as running and they are disqualified?

Don't let words get you down. YOU know you're running and that's all that matters.

BrianSharpe

That sounds like a jog rather than a run. I would say 6 mph is running?

Everything faster than a walk is running, and whatever speed that is is relative to the runner. Both feet leave the ground? You're running

^^^^ Exactly!

If one foot is always in contact with the ground you're walking, if both feet leave the ground you're running. Personally, I think the term "jogging" should be banished as it creates confusion.

FWIW I was walking on my treadmill yesterday and my stubby little legs were quite happy starting at 4.0 MPH and finishing at 4.4 MPH. On my running days my pace is dependent on what my training goal is that day, for example today I'll be going 5km and my planned pace is 5:36 min / km (or just under 9 min/mile) for my long slow distance runs I'll target 6:30 to 6:45 min/km (getting closer to 11 min miles).

amansunder

I fair at an average speed of 4.5mph for a 6mile run with max speeds at 7mph. It's definitely not walking.

herblackwings39

I've got fairly short legs and a longer torso. I can walk at a fairly steady pace at 2.5 or a 24 minute mile. I wouldn't call it a leisurely stroll, but that's how I track it when I go for a walk since I know the time. 3 is quite brisk on the tread mill and getting close to 4 requires jogging/ running. Actually....over 3.5 is a light "jog". So I think it's really a personal thing. It may not be a fast run, but it's definitely not walking for me.

shadow2soul

Well, I would have agreed with you a month ago. A month ago, the fastest I could walk was 3mph and even that was hard.

I went on a walk the other day and was averaging 4 mph. I'm 5'4.5", so not particularly tall, but my fitness is defiantly improving.

mattdsoares

Walking vs running is largely semantics and everyone you ask will have a different definition as there really is little standard idea of what jogging is. Some will say it is a pace between walking and running. Others look more to the intent of what you are doing.

For example, many people say jogging is running at a slow or leisurely pace. Well slow or leisurely is very subjective. For me in week 5 of c25k weighing close to 300 lbs, running at 7.5kph or 4.6mph is my normal speed. There is not much leisurely about it, I assure you. So is that jogging? For Mo Farrah 4.5mph would indeed be leisurely. For some people on this forum that's their brisk walk. But for me, it is not. This is the biggest problem with trying to apply limits or milestones to determine between jogging and running. One person's jog is another's run. Mo Farrah running 4.5 mph would be worthless. He's hardly burn any calories or work up a sweat. He'd be lucky if his heart rate went up at all. But for me that is a damn good workout.

Another interesting definition is based on your intentions.. If you're running to win a race, set a specific time, have a certain speed, then you're running. It's more technical and focused more of the sport or competitive aspects. Jogging is more recreational. You're doing it to stay in shape, keep your heart pumping etc. You're not as concerned with times or speed, though you may work on those things for your own betterment, but not to win anything. You enter a 5K as a personal goal or because you find it fun. Not to win. Jogging is more casual in it's approach this definition. It's like playing a pickup game of basketball a few times a week with friends as opposed to playing in an organized men's league. In both cases you're still playing basketball, but your intentions and focus are different.

Either way, jogging IS running. That much cannot be disputed. Whether it is running at an easy pace, or running for exercise and personal enjoyment, it is still running. Thus, personally I have little use for the word jog. I think it devalues what I'm doing. Rightly or wrongly most people associate jog with "easy" or "light". I'm pushing myself to my limits and often past them. There is nothing light, easy, casual, or leisurely about what I'm doing. Thus I don't even use the word jog to talk about my program. "I'm going for a run", or "I've started running".

battyg13

I do an uphill walk at 4.0 mph. i dont ever find myself breaking into a jog but everyone is different.