No substantial weight loss!

So I have been dieting and exercising rigidly for a few weeks now, doing at least 3 hours worth of exercise per day, whether it be at the gym, horse riding or running- resulting in my calorie intake being approx 900 calories 4 days a week, and under 1200 everyday. I have put on a lot of muscle (I'm 37.5% muscle at the moment) but do not appear to have lost weight at all!

I currently weigh 61.8kg, at 164cm, Female, but it simply isn't coming off as I would like! My aim is to be 56kg.

Does anybody have any tips, like types of food I can eat, or exercises?

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  • TavistockToad
    TavistockToad Posts: 35,719 Member
    You eat 900 calories a day and do 3 hours of exercise? You must really hate yourself?
  • Francl27
    Francl27 Posts: 26,371 Member
    Sorry to break it to you, but there's no way you've put on any muscle with so few calories.
  • Ninkyou
    Ninkyou Posts: 6,666 Member
    You eat 900 calories a day and do 3 hours of exercise? You must really hate yourself?

    Yeah, really. If I was eating 900 calories, I'd be ready to gnaw of an arm... and not necessarily my own.


    How long have you been torturing yourself like this?
  • 900 with exercise taken into account!! I wouldn't be ABLE to do 3 hours exercise if I was eating so few!
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
    Sorry to break it to you, but there's no way you've put on any muscle with so few calories.

    Seconded.

    You're doing it wrong Eat some food. At the rate you're going you will eventually lose significant weight- but it will be impossible to keep it off, and you'll end up with wasted muscles and a slow metabolism. You'll regain the weight and your body composition will be a higher percentage of fat than when you started. It's the first step in a classic yo-yo that leaves people fatter and makes weight management more difficult long term.
  • Sorry to break it to you, but there's no way you've put on any muscle with so few calories.

    Well clearly not!
  • MoreBean13
    MoreBean13 Posts: 8,701 Member
    Sorry to break it to you, but there's no way you've put on any muscle with so few calories.

    Well clearly not!

    It's not physically possible to put on muscle under the conditions you've described. Either
    1) You didn't put on muscle, or
    2) You have actually been consuming a lot more calories than you think

    #2 is a real possibility you should consider if you haven't been measuring every bite that goes in your mouth. It would also explain your weight stall.
  • Cranquistador
    Cranquistador Posts: 39,744 Member
    LOL
  • Ninkyou
    Ninkyou Posts: 6,666 Member
    Okay, so what you meant is that you are NETTING 900 calories.

    How many calories are you eating? How many are you burning?

    I agree with the previous poster, you could be eating more than you think, which will result in no weight loss.
  • Springfield1970
    Springfield1970 Posts: 1,945 Member
    Hi running buff

    How are you working out your body fat? It really helps if you open your diary too. We can have a look and try and suggest.

    I'm afraid you can't really build muscle on a calorie deficit. There's a phenomenon called newbie gains where you can gain a little if you've never lifted before, but I don't know much about that.

    It would be lovely if we could use our body fat to build muscle but we have to treat them as separate entities! At the moment you are at risk of not having enough fat to make up your deficit and eating into lean body tissue, muscle and organs. If you are doing a lot of sport you are at risk of injuring yourself.

    Sit back and let the advice sink in, slow down and do some research and listen to the ones who are seen to be doing well with their body health, and that voice of reason.

    You could be holding on to a few pounds of water to aid repair if you're doing that much sport. Take a few days off and see what happens.
    Then again, I'm assuming you're weighing and logging everything that passes your lips, and have worked out your burns using a heart rate monitor to get your exact numbers for your maths.

    Lots of luck!
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,224 Member
    Well, how much weight have you lost in that 4 weeks?
  • It depends how much I exercise, I try to work off as much as I need to in order to be 900, or sub 1200.
    So some days I may consume 1800-1900, and then burn off what I need to. But like today, as I haven't exercised, I've consumed just under 900.
    I am more interested if the types of food I am eating are hindering my weight loss, I am most definitely not trying to starve myself, or put on muscle particularly (I ran a half marathon 3 days ago so I am not too fussed about muscle gain).
  • devil_in_a_blue_dress
    devil_in_a_blue_dress Posts: 5,214 Member
    LOL WUT
  • Hi running buff

    How are you working out your body fat? It really helps if you open your diary too. We can have a look and try and suggest.

    I'm afraid you can't really build muscle on a calorie deficit. There's a phenomenon called newbie gains where you can gain a little if you've never lifted before, but I don't know much about that.

    It would be lovely if we could use our body fat to build muscle but we have to treat them as separate entities! At the moment you are at risk of not having enough fat to make up your deficit and eating into lean body tissue, muscle and organs. If you are doing a lot of sport you are at risk of injuring yourself.

    Sit back and let the advice sink in, slow down and do some research and listen to the ones who are seen to be doing well with their body health, and that voice of reason.

    You could be holding on to a few pounds of water to aid repair if you're doing that much sport. Take a few days off and see what happens.
    Then again, I'm assuming you're weighing and logging everything that passes your lips, and have worked out your burns using a heart rate monitor to get your exact numbers for your maths.

    Lots of luck!

    Thank you for the positive comment!
    I have scales which calculate body fat, and muscle fat etc. So my body fat according to these scales is 24%, which it says is in the normal range, but I am not sure?
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    If you have put on muscle, you are not eating at a deficit.

    How are you tracking your calories? Do you weigh and measure all of your food?
  • Mr_Bad_Example
    Mr_Bad_Example Posts: 2,403 Member
    So I have been dieting and exercising rigidly for a few weeks now, doing at least 3 hours worth of exercise per day, whether it be at the gym, horse riding or running- resulting in my calorie intake being approx 900 calories 4 days a week, and under 1200 everyday. I have put on a lot of muscle (I'm 37.5% muscle at the moment) but do not appear to have lost weight at all!

    I currently weigh 61.8kg, at 164cm, Female, but it simply isn't coming off as I would like! My aim is to be 56kg.

    Does anybody have any tips, like types of food I can eat, or exercises?

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  • So I have been dieting and exercising rigidly for a few weeks now, doing at least 3 hours worth of exercise per day, whether it be at the gym, horse riding or running- resulting in my calorie intake being approx 900 calories 4 days a week, and under 1200 everyday. I have put on a lot of muscle (I'm 37.5% muscle at the moment) but do not appear to have lost weight at all!

    I currently weigh 61.8kg, at 164cm, Female, but it simply isn't coming off as I would like! My aim is to be 56kg.

    Does anybody have any tips, like types of food I can eat, or exercises?

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    Is that supposed to be helpful? If so, thanks so much! There really is no need to ridicule
  • nomeejerome
    nomeejerome Posts: 2,616 Member
    :huh:
  • kgeyser
    kgeyser Posts: 22,505 Member
    It depends how much I exercise, I try to work off as much as I need to in order to be 900, or sub 1200.
    So some days I may consume 1800-1900, and then burn off what I need to. But like today, as I haven't exercised, I've consumed just under 900.
    I am more interested if the types of food I am eating are hindering my weight loss, I am most definitely not trying to starve myself, or put on muscle particularly (I ran a half marathon 3 days ago so I am not too fussed about muscle gain).

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  • ajcmoran2005
    ajcmoran2005 Posts: 173 Member
    Unless you're an Olympic athlete or you train for a living I have no idea why you are treating your body the way you are. It makes no sense eating so little on days you don't workout and working out for three hours to burn "what you need to burn" sounds insane. If I may be honest it sounds like you have an eating disorder. While you are eating you are also trying to burn it all off, which is a form of anorexia. Forgive me if I am out of line saying that but this behavior is concerning.
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    Unless you're an Olympic athlete or you train for a living I have no idea why you are treating your body the way you are. It makes no sense eating so little on days you don't workout and working out for three hours to burn "what you need to burn" sounds insane. If I may be honest it sounds like you have an eating disorder. While you are eating you are also trying to burn it all off, which is a form of anorexia. Forgive me if I am out of line saying that but this behavior is concerning.

    OP has stated that she has not lost any weight. So I seriously doubt she is in danger of being anorexic. It is far more likely that she is eating more than she thinks.

    Wouldn't you agree?
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    Sorry to break it to you, but there's no way you've put on any muscle with so few calories.

    Well clearly not!

    It's not physically possible to put on muscle under the conditions you've described. Either
    1) You didn't put on muscle, or
    2) You have actually been consuming a lot more calories than you think

    #2 is a real possibility you should consider if you haven't been measuring every bite that goes in your mouth. It would also explain your weight stall.
    Add in that she actually has the energy to run a half marathon and exercise for 3 hours a day and I'm going to go with #2.
  • devil_in_a_blue_dress
    devil_in_a_blue_dress Posts: 5,214 Member

    Is that supposed to be helpful? If so, thanks so much! There really is no need to ridicule

    I think it's supposed to point out how absurd this post is, just in case you missed it -- which you seems to be missing it/. You cannot build muscle on 900 calories a day. Your body is barely able (if able) to do basic bodily functions with that amount. How you are running half marathons is a head scratcher unless...

    You are eating way more than you think you are, you aren't burning nearly the calories you think you are.

    Or you actually are slowly starving your body of the nutrients it needs to properly function. You might not see a loss right now -- but you will soon. But it's not just going to be the fat that goes, but also your lean body mass, your hair, your nails. You won't be running either.

    What you are writing here is just straight up non-sense.
  • ajcmoran2005
    ajcmoran2005 Posts: 173 Member
    Unless you're an Olympic athlete or you train for a living I have no idea why you are treating your body the way you are. It makes no sense eating so little on days you don't workout and working out for three hours to burn "what you need to burn" sounds insane. If I may be honest it sounds like you have an eating disorder. While you are eating you are also trying to burn it all off, which is a form of anorexia. Forgive me if I am out of line saying that but this behavior is concerning.

    OP has stated that she has not lost any weight. So I seriously doubt she is in danger of being anorexic. It is far more likely that she is eating more than she thinks.

    Wouldn't you agree?

    No, I would not agree. I am recovering from an ED and several of the girls I attended rehab with suffered from exercise bulimia (I said anorexia but it's bulimia.). Instead of purging they would exercise whatever they consuming. Many bulimics don't lose weight because rarely can you purge everything you eat and you also can't burn off everything you eat. So yes, regardless of how much she is eating if she is truly working out that much it could be signs of an ED. Of course it is just my opinion based on my experience.
  • Springfield1970
    Springfield1970 Posts: 1,945 Member
    Running buff

    If you can see through all the sarcasm and face palms, you may see that we are all concerned that you are at risk of seriously damaging your health, and your fitness certainly won't be going anywhere.

    I made mistakes going just 500 below what I needed after exercise. It's taken me countless months and effort to build my muscle and health back.

    You should be working out your total daily energy expenditure and subtracting no more than about 15% off.

    I do it a slightly different way where I have a maintenance number 1750 cals (TDEE minus exercise) and I work out my exact burns.

    My training suffers greatly and I get injured if I go more than 2/300 under that. I don't do fast cardio on a deficit anymore. It ate my lean body mass. Who knows what's included in that, heart, bone calcium, etc.

    To lose fat, do it slowly, especially if you're training.

    Ps those scale monitors are absolutely useless. They don't reflect the truth. At all.
  • Mr_Bad_Example
    Mr_Bad_Example Posts: 2,403 Member
    So I have been dieting and exercising rigidly for a few weeks now, doing at least 3 hours worth of exercise per day, whether it be at the gym, horse riding or running- resulting in my calorie intake being approx 900 calories 4 days a week, and under 1200 everyday. I have put on a lot of muscle (I'm 37.5% muscle at the moment) but do not appear to have lost weight at all!

    I currently weigh 61.8kg, at 164cm, Female, but it simply isn't coming off as I would like! My aim is to be 56kg.

    Does anybody have any tips, like types of food I can eat, or exercises?

    2chp8j8.gif

    Is that supposed to be helpful? If so, thanks so much! There really is no need to ridicule

    Maybe this will be more helpful - do your research. Gain some knowledge. Then you will succeed.
  • debbied3494
    debbied3494 Posts: 1 Member
    Maybe your body is trying to conserve its energy (going into startvation mode) with all the exercise and little intake.... Just a thought!:smile:
  • Springfield1970
    Springfield1970 Posts: 1,945 Member
    Maybe your body is trying to conserve its energy (going into startvation mode) with all the exercise and little intake.... Just a thought!:smile:

    Nope. That doesn't exist.

    It's either

    Special Snowflakitis

    Bad maths

    Massive water retention from muscle trauma.

    A waste of time.

    Probably a little of all three. We've all been here, it's part of learning, making mistakes!
  • 00NL
    00NL Posts: 171 Member
    HI running buff
    see you are already at a healthy weight ( depends on what your real muscle and fat are)
    but why are in you such a hurry to lose weight.
    it will damage your health
    even if you dont want to look into strenght training it is fine --although highly recommended
    do cardio ( a bit higher intensity then moderate level) eat at a deficit and dont be harsh
    within weeks you will be there
    check for medical conditions aswell.
    be patient
    weight loss takes time.

    Gaining muscle is very different area of fitness and needs even more effort-- if you are interested in that well then learn about it first.