MACRO RESET DISASTER....
joan23_us
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As I am writing this post i am finishing a bowl of ice cream and honey.... and its disgusting, lol. As you have read on my subject title, this meal 4 is actually an extra meal for me to balance out my carbs intake, it was all sweet in MFP, all numbers are picture perfect but to my surprise, eating weis sorbet frozen yogurt top with honey is not the best in the world.... Anyone had the same disaster like this... ALL IN THE NAME OF HITTING YOUR MACROS... lol
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I think trying to get all the macros perfect is an unnecessary complication. I find that aiming for the recommended calorie deficit, exercise taken into account, and concentrating on eating healthily (lean protein, healthy fats, watch the added salt and added sugar, lots of fruit and vegies) does it for me. The macros can look after themselves. But I notice in your food diary you are taking all sorts of supplements, so perhaps you are doing serious weight training or something? Does that make it more important to focus on the macros?0
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I don't think it's worth eating something that's not very healthy and that you don't enjoy much just to meet your macros. I try to get as close to my protein target as possible, but I try not to stress too much about fats (except that high-fat days end with stomach aches for me) and carbs (since I'm usually under or over a bit, it all balances out).0
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Don't eat food you don't like. And I think the idea is to meet or exceed your protein and fat macros, and let the carbs fall where they fall. So as long as you've met or exceeded your protein and fat, it's OK if your carbs are under. My ratios are a bit different for different reasons, but if you're following the standard iifym, carbs are the "leftovers" (meaning whatever you have after you get your protein and fat). And don't eat food you don't like.0
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Off topic, but how do you get that bar you have that says how many pounds left until your goal?0
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Haaaa... that evil macro reset and trying to hit all them macros before it's too late!!
Fat wise i am done with pre-work out and tend to go lean after my work out / dinner.
Protein, a scoop of casein before bed or whilst sleeping is my last 30 grams needed to hit target.
For carbs. I tend to go for pop corns (air popped) or if i stay up late pop tarts in my casein shake before hitting the sack.
Agreed - lemon sorbet and honey does not sound that appealing.0 -
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forget that silly %fats/%carbs/%protein method for determining your macros. it's wrong.
set your macros based on your body weight and LBM and not on your daily calories.
fats = 0.35g/lb of bodyweight. this is a daily minimum.
protein = 1.0g/lb of LBM. this is a daily minimum.
your LBM (lean body mass) is equal to (100% - BF%) x (bodyweight), where BF is your body fat %.
this way you have FIXED macro goals to meet or exceed every day for your fats and protein regardless of your calorie goal or exercise calories. once you meet those daily minimums, you can fill up the rest of your calories with whatever mix of fats/protein/carbs you want.0 -
I can't think of anything worse than honey on icecream. Not sure why. Maple syrup I could do with chopped peanuts and malted milk powder
Actually I did that every night when pregnant with first child and no wonder I got fat but damn was it ever good! 0 -
Haaaa... that evil macro reset and trying to hit all them macros before it's too late!!
Fat wise i am done with pre-work out and tend to go lean after my work out / dinner.
Protein, a scoop of casein before bed or whilst sleeping is my last 30 grams needed to hit target.
For carbs. I tend to go for pop corns (air popped) or if i stay up late pop tarts in my casein shake before hitting the sack.
Agreed - lemon sorbet and honey does not sound that appealing.
I planned tomorrow's better than today, no more frozen yogurt and honey together and I was able to squeeze in some BONDI BURGER from oporto and choc fudge.... my goodness, last minute changes, working long day tom. no time for cooking hence the burger, lol0 -
forget that silly %fats/%carbs/%protein method for determining your macros. it's wrong.
set your macros based on your body weight and LBM and not on your daily calories.
fats = 0.35g/lb of bodyweight. this is a daily minimum.
protein = 1.0g/lb of LBM. this is a daily minimum.
your LBM (lean body mass) is equal to (100% - BF%) x (bodyweight), where BF is your body fat %.
Actually did, LBM X 1.25 PROTEIN, LBM X 4 FATS and the rest for carbs whatever is left from my 2200 calories calculations.
this way you have FIXED macro goals to meet or exceed every day for your fats and protein regardless of your calorie goal or exercise calories. once you meet those daily minimums, you can fill up the rest of your calories with whatever mix of fats/protein/carbs you want.0 -
I think trying to get all the macros perfect is an unnecessary complication. I find that aiming for the recommended calorie deficit, exercise taken into account, and concentrating on eating healthily (lean protein, healthy fats, watch the added salt and added sugar, lots of fruit and vegies) does it for me. The macros can look after themselves. But I notice in your food diary you are taking all sorts of supplements, so perhaps you are doing serious weight training or something? Does that make it more important to focus on the macros?
YES, for better body composition track your macronutrients instead of calories, by default tracking macros you are tracking calories on the other hand if you are tracking calories only that doesnt mean you are getting enough protein or maybe going overboard with your fats.0 -
I've got a similar problem, I can't seem to get enough proteins, everytime I try to eat something that contains proteins my protein intake increases a little, but fats also keep increasing dangerously and carbs appear out of nowhere. It doesn't make much sense to me, I'll try not to care about it as long as I'm still losing weight.0
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Ummmm i dont think the macro target indicates you have to eat crap
Carbs can be good carbs, not a bunch of sugar that you dont even like. Why not have some brown rice instead? Wont give you the sugar rush too
My suggestion is to plan out your meals for the day and then this wont happen
Also, if you arent measuring your intake properly or overestimating your exercise levels then you may be eating more than you need anyway0 -
I've got a similar problem, I can't seem to get enough proteins, everytime I try to eat something that contains proteins my protein intake increases a little, but fats also keep increasing dangerously and carbs appear out of nowhere. It doesn't make much sense to me, I'll try not to care about it as long as I'm still losing weight.
Fail!
If the above is correct it seems like you need to look into and plan a bit better what you eat.
Fat and carbs don't appear out of no where - a good variety of food will have protein, carbs and fat into it.
It is essential to know what you are eating.0 -
You're not going to get ill or have negative side effects if you don't mit your macros perfectly on a single day. MFP is a platform for guidelines, not a perfect science. Aim to be near your macros over the course of a week but don't stress out and eat silly meals just to meet them on a daily basis. That's not what having a healthy balanced diet is all about.
On the other hand if you want to eat icecream with honey every now and then because you feel like it then go ahead, but don't do it in the name of MFP's macros.0 -
Haaaa... that evil macro reset and trying to hit all them macros before it's too late!!
Fat wise i am done with pre-work out and tend to go lean after my work out / dinner.
Protein, a scoop of casein before bed or whilst sleeping is my last 30 grams needed to hit target.
For carbs. I tend to go for pop corns (air popped) or if i stay up late pop tarts in my casein shake before hitting the sack.
Agreed - lemon sorbet and honey does not sound that appealing.
I planned tomorrow's better than today, no more frozen yogurt and honey together and I was able to squeeze in some BONDI BURGER from oporto and choc fudge.... my goodness, last minute changes, working long day tom. no time for cooking hence the burger, lol
I know the feeling fella - I was short on protein a nd fat last night... i was forced to throw down my salivating mouth some bacon!!
8% BF - IIFYM and live happily ever after 0 -
forget that silly %fats/%carbs/%protein method for determining your macros. it's wrong.
set your macros based on your body weight and LBM and not on your daily calories.
fats = 0.35g/lb of bodyweight. this is a daily minimum.
protein = 1.0g/lb of LBM. this is a daily minimum.
your LBM (lean body mass) is equal to (100% - BF%) x (bodyweight), where BF is your body fat %.
this way you have FIXED macro goals to meet or exceed every day for your fats and protein regardless of your calorie goal or exercise calories. once you meet those daily minimums, you can fill up the rest of your calories with whatever mix of fats/protein/carbs you want.
No sure about the above seems a bit off to me.
I have my Macros set by percentages but that is because I use TDEE. They never change.
I know I want Min 120g or 30% of protien based on my LBM of 121lbs and my TDEE (BF% of 26% weight 165)
Min fat is 25% based on my TDEE and the rest are carbs.
I hit protien and Fat Min and sometimes go over very rarely hitting my carb one...
That way when I do hit my protien and I have 200 calories left I eat ice cream...no honey tho ick. oh or cheesecake pops...0 -
forget that silly %fats/%carbs/%protein method for determining your macros. it's wrong.
set your macros based on your body weight and LBM and not on your daily calories.
fats = 0.35g/lb of bodyweight. this is a daily minimum.
protein = 1.0g/lb of LBM. this is a daily minimum.
your LBM (lean body mass) is equal to (100% - BF%) x (bodyweight), where BF is your body fat %.
this way you have FIXED macro goals to meet or exceed every day for your fats and protein regardless of your calorie goal or exercise calories. once you meet those daily minimums, you can fill up the rest of your calories with whatever mix of fats/protein/carbs you want.
No sure about the above seems a bit off to me.
I have my Macros set by percentages but that is because I use TDEE. They never change.
I know I want Min 120g or 30% of protien based on my LBM of 121lbs and my TDEE (BF% of 26% weight 165)
Min fat is 25% based on my TDEE and the rest are carbs.
I hit protien and Fat Min and sometimes go over very rarely hitting my carb one...
That way when I do hit my protien and I have 200 calories left I eat ice cream...no honey tho ick. oh or cheesecake pops...
what i wrote is correct.0 -
I've got a similar problem, I can't seem to get enough proteins, everytime I try to eat something that contains proteins my protein intake increases a little, but fats also keep increasing dangerously and carbs appear out of nowhere. It doesn't make much sense to me, I'll try not to care about it as long as I'm still losing weight.
Fail!
If the above is correct it seems like you need to look into and plan a bit better what you eat.
Fat and carbs don't appear out of no where - a good variety of food will have protein, carbs and fat into it.
It is essential to know what you are eating.
Obviously carbs and fat don't get out of nowhere, they come from the food I eat...
I meant that everything I eat seems to have always more carbs or fat than proteins, at least proportionally. I've tried to plan better what to eat, and I do know what I eat, but since I'm a vegetarian I can only get proteins from seitan, eggs, dairy or legumes. Unfortunately, dairy and eggs also carry too many fats (even "fat free" products... if I have a couple of spoons of extravirgin olive oil in my salads or just to cook throughout the day I'm already over!), and legumes also carry carbs, which are usually too much if added to my other meals. Vegetarian products usually have lots of proteins but I can't have them twice a day, because of the price.
I'll make a couple of examples: yesterday I had a good day, because I stayed under my carbs intake (155 gr out of 183), but also stayed under my proteins (only 59 out of 73) and reached my fats allowed intake, which has been pre-settled by MFP to 49 gr (which already seems a LOT to me). It was a good day overall, considering that the day before I exceeded my carbs, and only had 41 gr of proteins out of 63.
The point is that I don't know enough about macros to set them by myself. If I could, I'd probably increase my protein intake and lower my fats intake, but I didn't choose those settings. Also, even though carbs take the biggest percentage in every diet, I would never like to reach my allowed intake or even exceed it, because I think that's going to make the weightloss process slower, but still, I don't know enough about it.0 -
I'd rather have something like cereal than ice cream and honey, I like chewing food lol0
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forget that silly %fats/%carbs/%protein method for determining your macros. it's wrong.
set your macros based on your body weight and LBM and not on your daily calories.
fats = 0.35g/lb of bodyweight. this is a daily minimum.
protein = 1.0g/lb of LBM. this is a daily minimum.
your LBM (lean body mass) is equal to (100% - BF%) x (bodyweight), where BF is your body fat %.
this way you have FIXED macro goals to meet or exceed every day for your fats and protein regardless of your calorie goal or exercise calories. once you meet those daily minimums, you can fill up the rest of your calories with whatever mix of fats/protein/carbs you want.
No sure about the above seems a bit off to me.
I have my Macros set by percentages but that is because I use TDEE. They never change.
I know I want Min 120g or 30% of protien based on my LBM of 121lbs and my TDEE (BF% of 26% weight 165)
Min fat is 25% based on my TDEE and the rest are carbs.
I hit protien and Fat Min and sometimes go over very rarely hitting my carb one...
That way when I do hit my protien and I have 200 calories left I eat ice cream...no honey tho ick. oh or cheesecake pops...
what i wrote is correct.
The calculations I was given by folks who have shown they know what they are talking about are not what you are giving.
My Fat Calculation is 121(LBM)x9(calories in fat)x.35/1600(TDEE)=23.82% or rounded up 25%. Your calculation is missing the LBM and the calories from fat....the percentage allows the use in MFP but it works out to 381 calories from Fat.
Protien calculation is 121*4/1600=30.25% or 484 calories from Protien the rest are carbs.
Of course this is using TDEE calories to figure out percentages...
Hence the reason I said your looked a bit off....mainly due to the fact you use bodyweight not LBM for fats and you use 1g of protien per LBM instead of .8g which is what I was told.
Small difference but can result in different calculations and MFP allows for %'s only on the goals and they do change with exercise calories added in that is why using TDEE with set macros while using MFP is done in %.
As for it being wrong to use %...how can that be wrong numbers are numbers, it all depends on how we get those percentages that defines if it is wrong or right not using percentages themselves.0 -
To the OP, I hear you...I try to make sure I get my protien in as I lift and need it.
As for the ice cream with honey being gross Yah I tried greek yogurt with protien powder....I didn't finish it bleck.
What I do is hit my protien first which guarantees almost all the time I am going over on fat but that's okay they are minimums.
Carbs come last as they are easy to get in. My diary is open feel free to take a peek if you wish..(weekends are icky but weekdays I am usually spot on)0 -
forget that silly %fats/%carbs/%protein method for determining your macros. it's wrong.
set your macros based on your body weight and LBM and not on your daily calories.
fats = 0.35g/lb of bodyweight. this is a daily minimum.
protein = 1.0g/lb of LBM. this is a daily minimum.
your LBM (lean body mass) is equal to (100% - BF%) x (bodyweight), where BF is your body fat %.
this way you have FIXED macro goals to meet or exceed every day for your fats and protein regardless of your calorie goal or exercise calories. once you meet those daily minimums, you can fill up the rest of your calories with whatever mix of fats/protein/carbs you want.
No sure about the above seems a bit off to me.
I have my Macros set by percentages but that is because I use TDEE. They never change.
I know I want Min 120g or 30% of protien based on my LBM of 121lbs and my TDEE (BF% of 26% weight 165)
Min fat is 25% based on my TDEE and the rest are carbs.
I hit protien and Fat Min and sometimes go over very rarely hitting my carb one...
That way when I do hit my protien and I have 200 calories left I eat ice cream...no honey tho ick. oh or cheesecake pops...
what i wrote is correct.
The calculations I was given by folks who have shown they know what they are talking about are not what you are giving.
My Fat Calculation is 121(LBM)x9(calories in fat)x.35/1600(TDEE)=23.82% or rounded up 25%. Your calculation is missing the LBM and the calories from fat....the percentage allows the use in MFP but it works out to 381 calories from Fat.
Protien calculation is 121*4/1600=30.25% or 484 calories from Protien the rest are carbs.
Of course this is using TDEE calories to figure out percentages...
Hence the reason I said your looked a bit off....mainly due to the fact you use bodyweight not LBM for fats and you use 1g of protien per LBM instead of .8g which is what I was told.
Small difference but can result in different calculations and MFP allows for %'s only on the goals and they do change with exercise calories added in that is why using TDEE with set macros while using MFP is done in %.
As for it being wrong to use %...how can that be wrong numbers are numbers, it all depends on how we get those percentages that defines if it is wrong or right not using percentages themselves.
it's wrong for this reason (and you have to understand that what you are doing with a TDEE-XX% strategy sidesteps this issue):
MFP sets your macros by ratio. let's pretend for illustrative purposes that the ratios are 30%/35%/35%
it then assigns your macros according to your calorie goal. MISTAKE #1.
if you are clever, you can adjust the MFP ratios so that at your default calorie goal, your macros are roughly equal to what they should be were you to calculate them using formulas based on your bodyweight and BF%.
however, once you log exercise calories with MFP, it recalculates your macro goals and assumes that all of the exercise calories will be eaten back following the same macro ratio. MISTAKE #2.
even if you've already met your macro goals for the day, MFP thinks that if you then go out and burn 1000 calories with a long 3 hour hike, that those 1000 calories have to be eaten back following the 30%/35%/35% macro ratio. this is what confuses a lot of noobs.
if you're logging all of your exercise as 1 calorie because you're following a TDEE-XX% strategy, you won't see this problem. however, people following MFP exactly as it is set up to be followed will.
my equations for fat and protein come straight from Sara's updated article on setting macros in the ETP group. they have recently updated their recommendation from 0.85g/lb to 1.0g/lb of LBM for protein. for the fats calculation, it's not the LBM you use, it's the total bodyweight.
using your bodyweight (165) and BF% (26%), your macro intake should be as follows:
fats = 57.75 = ~58g or more per day REGARDLESS OF YOUR TDEE OR CALORIE INTAKE. it's not a function of how much exercise you do or how many calories you eat.
protein = 122.1g = ~122g or more per day REGARDLESS OF YOUR TDEE OR CALORIE INTAKE. it's not a function of how much exercise you do or how many calories you eat.
then you can fill up your remaining calories with whatever amount of fats, carbs, and protein you want.0 -
forget that silly %fats/%carbs/%protein method for determining your macros. it's wrong.
set your macros based on your body weight and LBM and not on your daily calories.
fats = 0.35g/lb of bodyweight. this is a daily minimum.
protein = 1.0g/lb of LBM. this is a daily minimum.
your LBM (lean body mass) is equal to (100% - BF%) x (bodyweight), where BF is your body fat %.
this way you have FIXED macro goals to meet or exceed every day for your fats and protein regardless of your calorie goal or exercise calories. once you meet those daily minimums, you can fill up the rest of your calories with whatever mix of fats/protein/carbs you want.
No sure about the above seems a bit off to me.
I have my Macros set by percentages but that is because I use TDEE. They never change.
I know I want Min 120g or 30% of protien based on my LBM of 121lbs and my TDEE (BF% of 26% weight 165)
Min fat is 25% based on my TDEE and the rest are carbs.
I hit protien and Fat Min and sometimes go over very rarely hitting my carb one...
That way when I do hit my protien and I have 200 calories left I eat ice cream...no honey tho ick. oh or cheesecake pops...
what i wrote is correct.
The calculations I was given by folks who have shown they know what they are talking about are not what you are giving.
My Fat Calculation is 121(LBM)x9(calories in fat)x.35/1600(TDEE)=23.82% or rounded up 25%. Your calculation is missing the LBM and the calories from fat....the percentage allows the use in MFP but it works out to 381 calories from Fat.
Protien calculation is 121*4/1600=30.25% or 484 calories from Protien the rest are carbs.
Of course this is using TDEE calories to figure out percentages...
Hence the reason I said your looked a bit off....mainly due to the fact you use bodyweight not LBM for fats and you use 1g of protien per LBM instead of .8g which is what I was told.
Small difference but can result in different calculations and MFP allows for %'s only on the goals and they do change with exercise calories added in that is why using TDEE with set macros while using MFP is done in %.
As for it being wrong to use %...how can that be wrong numbers are numbers, it all depends on how we get those percentages that defines if it is wrong or right not using percentages themselves.
You are both right. BrainyBurro is setting macros according to body comp and you are setting macros to a fixed TDEE. It's the same thing...0 -
forget that silly %fats/%carbs/%protein method for determining your macros. it's wrong.
set your macros based on your body weight and LBM and not on your daily calories.
fats = 0.35g/lb of bodyweight. this is a daily minimum.
protein = 1.0g/lb of LBM. this is a daily minimum.
your LBM (lean body mass) is equal to (100% - BF%) x (bodyweight), where BF is your body fat %.
this way you have FIXED macro goals to meet or exceed every day for your fats and protein regardless of your calorie goal or exercise calories. once you meet those daily minimums, you can fill up the rest of your calories with whatever mix of fats/protein/carbs you want.
No sure about the above seems a bit off to me.
I have my Macros set by percentages but that is because I use TDEE. They never change.
I know I want Min 120g or 30% of protien based on my LBM of 121lbs and my TDEE (BF% of 26% weight 165)
Min fat is 25% based on my TDEE and the rest are carbs.
I hit protien and Fat Min and sometimes go over very rarely hitting my carb one...
That way when I do hit my protien and I have 200 calories left I eat ice cream...no honey tho ick. oh or cheesecake pops...
what i wrote is correct.
The calculations I was given by folks who have shown they know what they are talking about are not what you are giving.
My Fat Calculation is 121(LBM)x9(calories in fat)x.35/1600(TDEE)=23.82% or rounded up 25%. Your calculation is missing the LBM and the calories from fat....the percentage allows the use in MFP but it works out to 381 calories from Fat.
Protien calculation is 121*4/1600=30.25% or 484 calories from Protien the rest are carbs.
Of course this is using TDEE calories to figure out percentages...
Hence the reason I said your looked a bit off....mainly due to the fact you use bodyweight not LBM for fats and you use 1g of protien per LBM instead of .8g which is what I was told.
Small difference but can result in different calculations and MFP allows for %'s only on the goals and they do change with exercise calories added in that is why using TDEE with set macros while using MFP is done in %.
As for it being wrong to use %...how can that be wrong numbers are numbers, it all depends on how we get those percentages that defines if it is wrong or right not using percentages themselves.
You are both right. BrainyBurro is setting macros according to body comp and you are setting macros to a fixed TDEE. It's the same thing...
true, but her equation for fats is using the LBM instead of the bodyweight.0 -
forget that silly %fats/%carbs/%protein method for determining your macros. it's wrong.
set your macros based on your body weight and LBM and not on your daily calories.
fats = 0.35g/lb of bodyweight. this is a daily minimum.
protein = 1.0g/lb of LBM. this is a daily minimum.
your LBM (lean body mass) is equal to (100% - BF%) x (bodyweight), where BF is your body fat %.
this way you have FIXED macro goals to meet or exceed every day for your fats and protein regardless of your calorie goal or exercise calories. once you meet those daily minimums, you can fill up the rest of your calories with whatever mix of fats/protein/carbs you want.
No sure about the above seems a bit off to me.
I have my Macros set by percentages but that is because I use TDEE. They never change.
I know I want Min 120g or 30% of protien based on my LBM of 121lbs and my TDEE (BF% of 26% weight 165)
Min fat is 25% based on my TDEE and the rest are carbs.
I hit protien and Fat Min and sometimes go over very rarely hitting my carb one...
That way when I do hit my protien and I have 200 calories left I eat ice cream...no honey tho ick. oh or cheesecake pops...
what i wrote is correct.
The calculations I was given by folks who have shown they know what they are talking about are not what you are giving.
My Fat Calculation is 121(LBM)x9(calories in fat)x.35/1600(TDEE)=23.82% or rounded up 25%. Your calculation is missing the LBM and the calories from fat....the percentage allows the use in MFP but it works out to 381 calories from Fat.
Protien calculation is 121*4/1600=30.25% or 484 calories from Protien the rest are carbs.
Of course this is using TDEE calories to figure out percentages...
Hence the reason I said your looked a bit off....mainly due to the fact you use bodyweight not LBM for fats and you use 1g of protien per LBM instead of .8g which is what I was told.
Small difference but can result in different calculations and MFP allows for %'s only on the goals and they do change with exercise calories added in that is why using TDEE with set macros while using MFP is done in %.
As for it being wrong to use %...how can that be wrong numbers are numbers, it all depends on how we get those percentages that defines if it is wrong or right not using percentages themselves.
You are both right. BrainyBurro is setting macros according to body comp and you are setting macros to a fixed TDEE. It's the same thing...
true, but her equation for fats is using the LBM instead of the bodyweight.
Ah good catch... so aside from that it's all the same. I would imagine that if you get lean enough (10% and lower) you could just go with total body weight. Kinda cool if you think about it...0 -
The calculations I was given by folks who have shown they know what they are talking about are not what you are giving.
My Fat Calculation is 121(LBM)x9(calories in fat)x.35/1600(TDEE)=23.82% or rounded up 25%. Your calculation is missing the LBM and the calories from fat....the percentage allows the use in MFP but it works out to 381 calories from Fat.
Protien calculation is 121*4/1600=30.25% or 484 calories from Protien the rest are carbs.
Of course this is using TDEE calories to figure out percentages...
Hence the reason I said your looked a bit off....mainly due to the fact you use bodyweight not LBM for fats and you use 1g of protien per LBM instead of .8g which is what I was told.
Small difference but can result in different calculations and MFP allows for %'s only on the goals and they do change with exercise calories added in that is why using TDEE with set macros while using MFP is done in %.
As for it being wrong to use %...how can that be wrong numbers are numbers, it all depends on how we get those percentages that defines if it is wrong or right not using percentages themselves.
You are both right. BrainyBurro is setting macros according to body comp and you are setting macros to a fixed TDEE. It's the same thing...
true, but her equation for fats is using the LBM instead of the bodyweight.
Ah good catch... so aside from that it's all the same. I would imagine that if you get lean enough (10% and lower) you could just go with total body weight. Kinda cool if you think about it...
And I don't have as much protien either, mine is ..8g per lb of LBM not it maks a huge difference. My % are set using my TDEE but my actual grams are set using BF% which is body comp...
My issue is setting macros as a % is not wrong..it's fine and works well and you have Fixed goals such as TDEE.0 -
The calculations I was given by folks who have shown they know what they are talking about are not what you are giving.
My Fat Calculation is 121(LBM)x9(calories in fat)x.35/1600(TDEE)=23.82% or rounded up 25%. Your calculation is missing the LBM and the calories from fat....the percentage allows the use in MFP but it works out to 381 calories from Fat.
Protien calculation is 121*4/1600=30.25% or 484 calories from Protien the rest are carbs.
Of course this is using TDEE calories to figure out percentages...
Hence the reason I said your looked a bit off....mainly due to the fact you use bodyweight not LBM for fats and you use 1g of protien per LBM instead of .8g which is what I was told.
Small difference but can result in different calculations and MFP allows for %'s only on the goals and they do change with exercise calories added in that is why using TDEE with set macros while using MFP is done in %.
As for it being wrong to use %...how can that be wrong numbers are numbers, it all depends on how we get those percentages that defines if it is wrong or right not using percentages themselves.
You are both right. BrainyBurro is setting macros according to body comp and you are setting macros to a fixed TDEE. It's the same thing...
true, but her equation for fats is using the LBM instead of the bodyweight.
Ah good catch... so aside from that it's all the same. I would imagine that if you get lean enough (10% and lower) you could just go with total body weight. Kinda cool if you think about it...
And I don't have as much protien either, mine is ..8g per lb of LBM not it maks a huge difference. My % are set using my TDEE but my actual grams are set using BF% which is body comp...
My issue is setting macros as a % is not wrong..it's fine and works well and you have Fixed goals such as TDEE.
it is wrong if you think that your body's macronutrient needs are a function of how many calories you burn. there is no physiological relationship between the two things. an ultramarathon runner can have a TDEE 6000-7000 calories per day when training and 2500 calories per day when not training. the amount of protein and fat needed on each of those days is essentially the same (neglecting any special issues that might arise for such a demanding amount of cardio if any such issues exist) even though the TDEE for those days is vastly different.
because you are using a strategy that factors all of your weekly cardio into an average daily TDEE and then deriving your macros as a percentage based in this simplification, you're not really seeing how the ratio/percentage method fails for the typical MFP'er who doesn't know from day to day what or how much exercise they'll be doing.
that person can have a protein goal on a day without exercise of 100g and end up close to what their body actually needs. then the next day they can do a lot of cardio and end up with a 200g goal simply because MFP forces the exercise calories to meet the macro ratios too. this is not necessary and for the noob who doesn't know better, might force them to eat more protein than they need at the end of the day because they think they have to hit that 200g goal. this is why i prefer to tell people to treat their macros as fixed numbers (which they should be) instead of a % of their calorie intake.0 -
it is wrong if you think that your body's macronutrient needs are a function of how many calories you burn. there is no physiological relationship between the two things.
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because you are using a strategy that factors all of your weekly cardio into an average daily TDEE and then deriving your macros as a percentage based in this simplification, you're not really seeing how the ratio/percentage method fails for the typical MFP'er who doesn't know from day to day what or how much exercise they'll be doing.
that person can have a protein goal on a day without exercise of 100g and end up close to what their body actually needs. then the next day they can do a lot of cardio and end up with a 200g goal simply because MFP forces the exercise calories to meet the macro ratios too. this is not necessary and for the noob who doesn't know better, might force them to eat more protein than they need at the end of the day because they think they have to hit that 200g goal. this is why i prefer to tell people to treat their macros as fixed numbers (which they should be) instead of a % of their calorie intake.
I will not belabour this point after this post. Macros as a % are not wrong, perhaps not appropriate for those who are using the NEAT method. re typical MFP'ers.
Oh and BTW I don't do cadio....I lift, recently added in HIIT after 18weeks and my TDEE is based on my actuals not an estimate so it's not really "over simplified". It's appropriate for me as it is hard to estimate calories burned from lifting heavy.
But telling "noobs" it is wrong in itself is not appropriate either. Education is required for "noobs" to understand what is going on and the best way to meet their goals. Explaining it to them as you did in this last paragraph without the "noob who doesn't know any better" would be more appropriate than flat out saying %'s are wrong.
But as I said I wont belabour the point again.0 -
Haaaa... that evil macro reset and trying to hit all them macros before it's too late!!
Fat wise i am done with pre-work out and tend to go lean after my work out / dinner.
Protein, a scoop of casein before bed or whilst sleeping is my last 30 grams needed to hit target.
For carbs. I tend to go for pop corns (air popped) or if i stay up late pop tarts in my casein shake before hitting the sack.
Agreed - lemon sorbet and honey does not sound that appealing.
I planned tomorrow's better than today, no more frozen yogurt and honey together and I was able to squeeze in some BONDI BURGER from oporto and choc fudge.... my goodness, last minute changes, working long day tom. no time for cooking hence the burger, lol
I know the feeling fella - I was short on protein a nd fat last night... i was forced to throw down my salivating mouth some bacon!!
8% BF - IIFYM and live happily ever after
AHAHAHAHA...... love it man, anyways thanx people for your thoughts, all i wanted to know is if people have out of this world food combo somehow topic got out of topic, nevermind... lol0
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