My Starvation Diet

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  • I think the 1st thing you need is a doctor. They will help you start eating properly
  • PJilly
    PJilly Posts: 22,141 Member
    Okay, what I'll tell you is going to go against the grain here. First, calories are not important. Eat as many as you want to. Calories don't make you fat. As any informed diabetic will tell you, it's the carbs that make you fat. The ideal diet for a diabetic, and that carries over to non-diabetics, is to eat a high fat, high protein, low carb diet. It's not unusual for a diabetic to eat eggs and bacon or sausage for breakfast, and wash it down with a glass of heavy cream. The more fat and protein, the better.(it keeps your blood glucose levels stable). For dinner, have a juicy steak and a salad. Use the regular high fat dressing, don't go for the low fat or fat free dressings, they are loaded with carbs.

    As a diabetic, I need to avoid all the "white" foods.....no rice, no pasta, no potatoes, no bread, no flour products of any type, including breaded food like fried chicken. Avoid most fruits, especially bananas and watermelon as they are laced with carbs. Ideally, eating less than 50 carbs a day is what we shoot for. Keep in mind that the more carbs you eat, the more carbs you'll want. When you buy food, read the labels. You'll be surprised at how many carbs it has. Heck, a hot dog has about 5 carbs....if you add the bun, it comes to 30 carbs. A hamburger has no carbs, but add the bun and it comes to 25 carbs. Instead of the bun, wrap it in a large piece of lettuce.

    If you stick to a low carb diet and don't worry about the calories, you will lose weight and never be hungry. This low fat, low calorie stuff never works for anybody in the long run.

    Excess carbs are what's driving the obesity epidemic in this country, and the sooner we realize it and change our diets, the better off we will be.
    I respectfully beg to differ with you. Calories do matter. Excess calories, whether from carbs, protein or fat, will make you fat. I do agree that excessively low-calorie diets don't work in the long run, but my personal success and observations of others who have been successful show me that a moderate balance of carbs, protein and fat as well as a moderate amount of calories is what works. For me, that's currently 1,900 calories at a ratio of 55/25/20. As the daughter of a diabetic, it scares me to see a recommendation for someone with diabetes to eat a high-fat diet. Often diabetes and heart disease go hand in hand, and I believe a high-fat diet is dangerous for someone with diabetes and/or heart disease, not to mention hell on a fat-loss plan.
  • JDMPWR
    JDMPWR Posts: 1,863 Member
    Okay, what I'll tell you is going to go against the grain here. First, calories are not important. Eat as many as you want to. Calories don't make you fat. As any informed diabetic will tell you, it's the carbs that make you fat.

    This statement is DEAD WRONG....anything is technically fat. Your body can convert and store most anything you eat outside of most greens and corn into fat. So carbs are not technically fat.....all things can technically be fat.
  • Calories do matter! It also matters where you get them from! Yes carbs are worse for you and your body will store them, but at the same time if you ate all saturated fat etc you would put on weight too!

    xxx
  • nikkijennings
    nikkijennings Posts: 130 Member
    As a newbie, I would like to thank you for your input..... I have learnt soooooo much on here in a week!!!!
  • KarenBorter
    KarenBorter Posts: 1,157 Member
    nuts

    That wasn't very nice :(

    I had a scale issue a long time ago where I would be terrified to gain any weight. It seems like this person is having this issue as well.

    to the OP...I agree with what everyone is saying; that is, you should gradually increase your caloric intake and begin doing light exercise. Take a walk around the block, do curls with soup cans, just do something. Your metabolism slows down when it goes into starvation mode and this is what it looks like your body is doing.

    Use the Food Diary tool on this site. It's amazing! I just started tracking my food and I am shocked at how much food 1200 calories entails. Since I started doing this (September 1) I have lost 2 lbs (I weighed myself Sunday). That means in 4 days, eating 1200 calories/day (or more on the days I work out) I STILL lost weight.

    I know it's scary to get skinny and think about gaining the weight back, but trust this site and the tools provided. I would suggest before doing anything, get a physical. Talk to a doctor, show him or her this site and the tools and have then help you set a plan. Since you seem to be in a plateau rut you should be as safe as possible

    (and don't listen to people who comment negatively ... they may not understand).

    EDIT: I read your post at the top of the page and am glad that you began to eat normally and went to see a doctor! Keep coming back if you are scared or have questions. This site is great and has a great support system!
  • Okay, from personal experience the starvation diet works, but you loose muscle as well as fat, i know this because i starved myself for 2 months last year and i wound up in hospital with severe anorexia, plus my major depression that lead me to the anorexia...

    long story short, i was 42kg, im 6" tall so i was all skin and bones, i didnt even have the strength in my legs to swing them out of the car on arrival to hospital, i had to pick up each leg with my arms...seriously...

    because of the lack of nutrients my body was slowly shutting down, if you think what im about to tell you is made up thats cool, but i'll be honest because i dont want people to end up where i was, its not fun...

    Ok, so heres the truth about what my starvation diet lead me to...believe it

    My body was shutting down, first my kidneys stopped working, then my liver, i was rushed to hospital for fear of liver failure (even tho i hated going, my psychiatrist had an ambulance pick me up the first time i got put in)

    My liver was terribly inflamed, a normal liver test should read about 25-50 of whatever scale they used, mine was 925 and in danger of failing, i developed a blood clotting problem due to the lack of iron and basically because i was SO malnurished my body was eating the protein in my red blood cells to survive, this stopped my ability to clot blood, so i wasnt able to undergo any operations

    after 4 weeks in hosp with no answers they decided to take a biopsy of my liver, i had to spend the previous day on blood clotting agents so i wouldnt bleed to death internally, they took the sample, no explanation, i developed an illness called D.I.C which stands for 'Disseminated intravascular coagulation" (wiki it here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disseminated_intravascular_coagulation) which is a potentally fatal desease, since the liver biopsy showed them no answers (and when i say them, i mean my liver specialist and all his crew, both national and international, because nothing like my case had ever been seen before, so i became a bit of an interest amongst specialists...which sucked)

    anyway they decided to take a bone marrow sample as well, which isnt pleasant at all by the way, which also gave them no clues...

    in december i was told by a nurse they predicted i had 3 or 4 days to live, my heart rate was 39 bpm, and my whole body just wasnt working anymore...i asked to be discharged for christmas because after now 6 weeks in hosp, i was sick of it and wanted to be home with my family if they werent finding anything new out...so i went home, mind u i wasnt able to climb the stairs...

    then out of nowhere, i started eating small bits of different foods and for some unknown reason (even to the medical profession) i started getting better, they have no idea why, and my gastro oncologist still asks my psych about me because im what he called a medical 'marvel'

    basically, eat! dont starve yourself, or you WILL die, i was just lucky i got out of it when i did

    feel free to message me if you want any support or information that i can help you with

    dave
  • sassiebritches
    sassiebritches Posts: 1,861 Member
    Okay, what I'll tell you is going to go against the grain here. First, calories are not important. Eat as many as you want to. Calories don't make you fat. As any informed diabetic will tell you, it's the carbs that make you fat. The ideal diet for a diabetic, and that carries over to non-diabetics, is to eat a high fat, high protein, low carb diet. It's not unusual for a diabetic to eat eggs and bacon or sausage for breakfast, and wash it down with a glass of heavy cream. The more fat and protein, the better.(it keeps your blood glucose levels stable). For dinner, have a juicy steak and a salad. Use the regular high fat dressing, don't go for the low fat or fat free dressings, they are loaded with carbs.

    As a diabetic, I need to avoid all the "white" foods.....no rice, no pasta, no potatoes, no bread, no flour products of any type, including breaded food like fried chicken. Avoid most fruits, especially bananas and watermelon as they are laced with carbs. Ideally, eating less than 50 carbs a day is what we shoot for. Keep in mind that the more carbs you eat, the more carbs you'll want. When you buy food, read the labels. You'll be surprised at how many carbs it has. Heck, a hot dog has about 5 carbs....if you add the bun, it comes to 30 carbs. A hamburger has no carbs, but add the bun and it comes to 25 carbs. Instead of the bun, wrap it in a large piece of lettuce.

    If you stick to a low carb diet and don't worry about the calories, you will lose weight and never be hungry. This low fat, low calorie stuff never works for anybody in the long run.

    Excess carbs are what's driving the obesity epidemic in this country, and the sooner we realize it and change our diets, the better off we will be.

    Yeee Hawww another Low Carber! I agree with everything you just mentioned. I wish more understood how to eat this way, I have never been more satisfied with my eating and my weight loss.

    Great advice. :drinker:
  • JDMPWR
    JDMPWR Posts: 1,863 Member
    Good carbs=energy. Protein and fat not so much. Protein is a source to help maintain and strengthen muscles, tendons, lingaments, bones, etc.

    What you are talking about is an Atkins type diet and you will AlWAYS bounce back from that type of diet. The body needs carbs for fuel so starving your body of carbs will reach a point where your body will start scavenging muscle for fuel once it can no longer use fat as a resource. Plus it's easier for the human body to break down muscle versus fat as one is a two step process versus a one step process.

    That's why under most any diet you will lose muscle but under a proper diet the muscle loss will be much less.
  • rcatr
    rcatr Posts: 374 Member
    To the OP

    There has already been so pretty good advice given so I don't need to add my two cents. I just wanted to say I hope that you take care of yourself and realize that you're already at a pretty gosh darn healthy weight. Reading your original post made me worry for you. Take one day at a time and remember to have patience and to love yourself. (OK, I'll stop sounding like Oprah)

    Take care
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