Eating 4100 calories a day
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You guys are kidding right? Its so easy, typical food off the top of my head:
Breakfast: 3-4 eggs fried in butter or omlette with cheese for more calories and sauteed veggies, 10 slices of bacon or 3 sausages: 1000+++ cals
Lunch: double or triple burger at any joint with cheese, fries, and a juice instead of a soda (you can drink a soda alone for 1,500 cals if you really think you need more cals) and you are at 1,500++ cals for this meal
Dinner: Half a bag of raviolis plus sauce and heavy cheese and thats 1,200-2,400 cals
One single protien shake with greek yogurt for 400 cals and you got all 4,100 cals (or more) plus pretty much all the protein you need, and you only had 3 meals! Start eating like that and just staying at 4100 is a problem if you add any snacks.
I don't get how 4,100 can be hard unless you are eating "clean", I'd love to eat like this continually (I did for a while, thats how I got fat). So many options for variety, replace any meal with half a pizza, or 24oz steak with baked potatos and butter or a whole chicken with salad and blue cheese dressing and avacado, or barbecued pork with lots of sauce or breaded pork loins with cheese topping, heck go to Applebees or similar restaurant and get over 2-3,000 cals in one meal!, Olive garden's never ending pasta bowl goes over 3k cal easy, any buffet...etc etc etc...now I'm hungry
I eat upwards 6 egg omelettes + bacon + veggies- they are no where NEAR 1000 calories.
and again- doing it once or twice a week is one thing.
doing it EVERY DAY for months on end is a completely different story. I can easily eat 3000 calories in one sitting- it's not that hard. It's much much harder to do it for months on end.
seriously.
If you haven't actually tried to function at a surplus for an extended period of time- you do not understand how truly difficult it can be.0 -
You guys are kidding right? Its so easy, typical food off the top of my head:
Breakfast: 3-4 eggs fried in butter or omlette with cheese for more calories and sauteed veggies, 10 slices of bacon or 3 sausages: 1000+++ cals
Lunch: double or triple burger at any joint with cheese, fries, and a juice instead of a soda (you can drink a soda alone for 1,500 cals if you really think you need more cals) and you are at 1,500++ cals for this meal
Dinner: Half a bag of raviolis plus sauce and heavy cheese and thats 1,200-2,400 cals
One single protien shake with greek yogurt for 400 cals and you got all 4,100 cals (or more) plus pretty much all the protein you need, and you only had 3 meals! Start eating like that and just staying at 4100 is a problem if you add any snacks.
I don't get how 4,100 can be hard unless you are eating "clean", I'd love to eat like this continually (I did for a while, thats how I got fat). So many options for variety, replace any meal with half a pizza, or 24oz steak with baked potatos and butter or a whole chicken with salad and blue cheese dressing and avacado, or barbecued pork with lots of sauce or breaded pork loins with cheese topping, heck go to Applebees or similar restaurant and get over 2-3,000 cals in one meal!, Olive garden's never ending pasta bowl goes over 3k cal easy, any buffet...etc etc etc...now I'm hungry
Uhh. Sure. Not everyone has the appetite of an ex obese man.
24oz steak. Lol yeah sure no problem
It's doable of course. Its not enjoyable for those us not used to being fat
Eating at a large surplus destroys appetite in the long term. Completely different from being an obese man who literally eats that way to maintain weight (albeit fat)
Most of you are also severely overestimating calories in this thread.
Ive eaten at 5000 calories every day for 3 years now. It's certainly possible. It will never feel good, it gunks up and slows down your digestive system over time. And its a perpetual state of being bloated.0 -
You guys are kidding right? Its so easy, typical food off the top of my head:
Breakfast: 3-4 eggs fried in butter or omlette with cheese for more calories and sauteed veggies, 10 slices of bacon or 3 sausages: 1000+++ cals
Lunch: double or triple burger at any joint with cheese, fries, and a juice instead of a soda (you can drink a soda alone for 1,500 cals if you really think you need more cals) and you are at 1,500++ cals for this meal
Dinner: Half a bag of raviolis plus sauce and heavy cheese and thats 1,200-2,400 cals
One single protien shake with greek yogurt for 400 cals and you got all 4,100 cals (or more) plus pretty much all the protein you need, and you only had 3 meals! Start eating like that and just staying at 4100 is a problem if you add any snacks.
I don't get how 4,100 can be hard unless you are eating "clean", I'd love to eat like this continually (I did for a while, thats how I got fat). So many options for variety, replace any meal with half a pizza, or 24oz steak with baked potatos and butter or a whole chicken with salad and blue cheese dressing and avacado, or barbecued pork with lots of sauce or breaded pork loins with cheese topping, heck go to Applebees or similar restaurant and get over 2-3,000 cals in one meal!, Olive garden's never ending pasta bowl goes over 3k cal easy, any buffet...etc etc etc...now I'm hungry
Uhh. Sure. Not everyone has the appetite of an ex obese man.
24oz steak. Lol yeah sure no problem
It's doable of course. Its not enjoyable for those us not used to being fat
Eating at a large surplus destroys appetite in the long term. Completely different from being an obese man who literally eats that way to maintain weight (albeit fat)
Most of you are also severely overestimating calories in this thread.
Ive eaten at 5000 calories every day for 3 years now. It's certainly possible. It will never feel good, it gunks up and slows down your digestive system over time. And its a perpetual state of being bloated.
I agree, I think this diet for a sustained period of time would be awful. If I have a really bad cheat day, the last thing I feel like doing the next day is eating a lot of food. Ugh.
Just out of curiosity though - why 5,000 a day for three years? Are you not bulking and cutting? If you burn so much with activity, why would you still feel bloated?
Not judging, just genuinely curious.0 -
Just ate 5505 calories yesterday in a 4 hr window. I had to bring in the chips and ice cream to get me there. Bulking is expensive. Can't wait to start cutting!
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I haven't cut in a few years. My body fat has never been over 11-12% in that time. There will be be days when I'm traveling that i eat at maintenance every week or two and that seems to be enough to cut fat. Its just gotten to the point where just keeping my current mass requires 4500 calories and much more to actually gain muscle
Supra - that is how its done! IF diet? I did that for a while and it does help boost appetite for those 4-6 hour eating windows0 -
I can imagine this is very difficult. I sometimes struggle to eat 2,500 calories of my high burn days. I don't know how I would eat 4,000 for months. Perhaps incorporate more liquid calories,butter, cream, and oils when cooking. Good luck0
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Just ate 5505 calories yesterday in a 4 hr window. I had to bring in the chips and ice cream to get me there. Bulking is expensive. Can't wait to start cutting!
Holy cow! There's no way I'd be able to keep that down.
How long does bulking last!? Is the purpose just to build muscle?0 -
Wow. I'm getting nauseous just reading this. I just finished off a 600 calorie bowl of beef stew and I'm stuffed. I don't know how you manage this volume of food.Just ate 5505 calories yesterday in a 4 hr window. I had to bring in the chips and ice cream to get me there. Bulking is expensive. Can't wait to start cutting!0
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4100?
Time for dessert!
I reckon I could easily do 4100 in not too short a time - and probably have a few too many times. Thus I'm here.
Ie - 3 pack of pastries, 400 calories each, eaten before I get home from the shops. 1200
Large Pizza with extra toppings (including loads of cheese) - +1600=2800
Wedges / Chicken strips + 500=3200
A whole cake or similar I always MEAN to have one slice of, but it's too tasty - +900 = 4100.0 -
I haven't cut in a few years. My body fat has never been over 11-12% in that time. There will be be days when I'm traveling that i eat at maintenance every week or two and that seems to be enough to cut fat. Its just gotten to the point where just keeping my current mass requires 4500 calories and much more to actually gain muscle
Supra - that is how its done! IF diet? I did that for a while and it does help boost appetite for those 4-6 hour eating windows
IF all the way!0 -
Just ate 5505 calories yesterday in a 4 hr window. I had to bring in the chips and ice cream to get me there. Bulking is expensive. Can't wait to start cutting!
Holy cow! There's no way I'd be able to keep that down.
How long does bulking last!? Is the purpose just to build muscle?
different people have different goals.
anywhere from 6-12 weeks to 6 months.
Yes. Physically gaining size (not definition) but actual quantifiable size only happens at a surplus. So if you want to get bigger- you must bulk.
Huge generalization here but yes most people who lift have roughly 2.5 seasons.
bulk
cut
show prep or maintenance (you could call this a 3rd season all together and say it's either half contest prep or half maintenance- but you get the picture)
Even if "maintenance" or the "I don't care I'm eating everything I want" diet happens for a week- or two weeks- or even a few days- or a month or two it usually almost always happens. It's hard to constantly be ALWAYS at a deficit- or ALWAYS on bulk.0 -
Holy cow! There's no way I'd be able to keep that down.
How long does bulking last!? Is the purpose just to build muscle?
I'm going to bulk for about 3-4 months, depending on my progress. And then cut for about a month. I'm not interested in a really long bulk because I was obese less than 5 months ago and I don't want to get too much fat on me. The ultimate purpose is to gain mass in muscle.
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How long does bulking last!? Is the purpose just to build muscle?
Varies. 2 months on the low end, 9+ months on the upper end.0 -
I cannot speak from experience, but I think the first thing would be to go with full fat dairy and higher fat meats. Whole milk as a beverage. It would be hard without adding a lot of processed foods, which probably adds to the bloat. If you drink alcohol, you could add 2-3 beers of a heavy variety, which would get you an extra ~600 cals.
Good luck!0 -
Just ate 5505 calories yesterday in a 4 hr window. I had to bring in the chips and ice cream to get me there. Bulking is expensive. Can't wait to start cutting!
Holy cow! There's no way I'd be able to keep that down.
How long does bulking last!? Is the purpose just to build muscle?
different people have different goals.
anywhere from 6-12 weeks to 6 months.
Yes. Physically gaining size (not definition) but actual quantifiable size only happens at a surplus. So if you want to get bigger- you must bulk.
Huge generalization here but yes most people who lift have roughly 2.5 seasons.
bulk
cut
show prep or maintenance (you could call this a 3rd season all together and say it's either half contest prep or half maintenance- but you get the picture)
Interesting...I hadn't realized there was so much to it until they split out the board categories.
Even if "maintenance" or the "I don't care I'm eating everything I want" diet happens for a week- or two weeks- or even a few days- or a month or two it usually almost always happens. It's hard to constantly be ALWAYS at a deficit- or ALWAYS on bulk.
Very true! I couldn't be at a deficit all the time...sometimes, a girl needs to indulge. I just came back from France and I put a hurt on some cheese and wine. And everything else.0 -
And thank you everyone for answering my curious questions!0
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oh sorry- edit 6 or more months- but 6 is pretty common for the high end.0
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Just ate 5505 calories yesterday in a 4 hr window. I had to bring in the chips and ice cream to get me there. Bulking is expensive. Can't wait to start cutting!
[snipped epic diary pic]
TWO POUNDS of ground beef in a meal???
That's hardcore.0 -
^^^Tell me about it. I lose weight at 4000 Calories a day.
Eating clean....yeah right, not gonna happen. I just eat fried everything. But, the upside is you can look like you diet (abs, shredded cuts, etc) even while eating a completely terrible diet
Counting on this haha.
I like to throw down beer to max my calories.:drinker:0 -
I don't really know the bulk/cut thing..
But I read somewhere that constantly being at a deficit isn't really healthy for you. Those occasional cheat days or binges whether intentional or not keeps you healthy. When I'm really watching my intake those "cheat" days or days I eat too much unintentionally don't make a difference, but I do feel better.
Interestingly.. since I've been forcing myself to eat 1600 calories i'm starting to be hungrier then I was before adn end up closer to 1800-2000 more often. So far today I've eaten just over 1000 calories.. i was hungry for lunch so I ate my mid afternoon snack for lunch. I'm trying to listen to my body, so I might change up my dinner to a chicken, avocado and egg pita with a salad instead of stir fry. Of course i will attack my kitchen as soon as i get home, so I have to watch what I snack on too.
I don't know if that has something to do with me finally getting healthy again or what.. but I like it.. Food is good.. Although that guy who posted his diary at 5500 calories in 4 hours.. I can't even imagine.. I'm always so full when i get to the end of the day. Kudos to you. I mean.. maybe doing that once or twice.(and I usually don't get over 4000 even on a bad bad day). but everyday? no freaking way. lol0 -
Poor you!0
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Cheesecake factory?
The force is yummy and strong with this one.0 -
I think that eating 4100 calories seems like something that would be exciting for the first few days.
Wow, I thought that 2100 was a lot.
That's a lot of food!0 -
You guys are kidding right? Its so easy, typical food off the top of my head:
Breakfast: 3-4 eggs fried in butter or omlette with cheese for more calories and sauteed veggies, 10 slices of bacon or 3 sausages: 1000+++ cals
Lunch: double or triple burger at any joint with cheese, fries, and a juice instead of a soda (you can drink a soda alone for 1,500 cals if you really think you need more cals) and you are at 1,500++ cals for this meal
Dinner: Half a bag of raviolis plus sauce and heavy cheese and thats 1,200-2,400 cals
One single protien shake with greek yogurt for 400 cals and you got all 4,100 cals (or more) plus pretty much all the protein you need, and you only had 3 meals! Start eating like that and just staying at 4100 is a problem if you add any snacks.
I don't get how 4,100 can be hard unless you are eating "clean", I'd love to eat like this continually (I did for a while, thats how I got fat). So many options for variety, replace any meal with half a pizza, or 24oz steak with baked potatos and butter or a whole chicken with salad and blue cheese dressing and avacado, or barbecued pork with lots of sauce or breaded pork loins with cheese topping, heck go to Applebees or similar restaurant and get over 2-3,000 cals in one meal!, Olive garden's never ending pasta bowl goes over 3k cal easy, any buffet...etc etc etc...now I'm hungry
I eat upwards 6 egg omelettes + bacon + veggies- they are no where NEAR 1000 calories.
and again- doing it once or twice a week is one thing.
doing it EVERY DAY for months on end is a completely different story. I can easily eat 3000 calories in one sitting- it's not that hard. It's much much harder to do it for months on end.
seriously.
If you haven't actually tried to function at a surplus for an extended period of time- you do not understand how truly difficult it can be.
If you do the math, that breakfast I stated is significantly more than 1000 calories, in fact the sausage and/or bacon component ALONE is 800 calories, so I was doing a huge under estimate. For example from package 3 sausages @270 cal =810 cal, my thick sliced bacon is 80cal x10 = 800 cals 3-4 eggs@70 cals = 210-280 cals, and 20z cheddar is 110x2= 220. Butter is about 100 cals for a tablespoon. Then veggies, but they are negligible in comparison, lets just estimate 50 cals so nobody is excited about possible overestimates and, we have a total of 1,480 cals for the LOW estimate of what I said. So actually, in my example diet, no protein shakes or snacks get you over 4,100 in 3 meals alone.
And yes I have eaten like I said for extended periods, its...awesome if you like food and eat good food! I was gaining muscle, and maintaining with meals like this for a long while, then due to work my activity level dropped and I ate similar amounts and well...then I had to lose the weight and we are at today, where I have a similar appetite and have to cut, usually I keep to about 3,000 cal/day averaged out. So yes, "4,100 is death" does not compute for me, its like complaining you have to go spend extra money that you made....awwww....not! For your size and muscle mass I can understand it being a pain though, but the OP complainer and others were guys taller than me! :P0 -
You guys are kidding right? Its so easy, typical food off the top of my head:
Breakfast: 3-4 eggs fried in butter or omlette with cheese for more calories and sauteed veggies, 10 slices of bacon or 3 sausages: 1000+++ cals
Lunch: double or triple burger at any joint with cheese, fries, and a juice instead of a soda (you can drink a soda alone for 1,500 cals if you really think you need more cals) and you are at 1,500++ cals for this meal
Dinner: Half a bag of raviolis plus sauce and heavy cheese and thats 1,200-2,400 cals
One single protien shake with greek yogurt for 400 cals and you got all 4,100 cals (or more) plus pretty much all the protein you need, and you only had 3 meals! Start eating like that and just staying at 4100 is a problem if you add any snacks.
I don't get how 4,100 can be hard unless you are eating "clean", I'd love to eat like this continually (I did for a while, thats how I got fat). So many options for variety, replace any meal with half a pizza, or 24oz steak with baked potatos and butter or a whole chicken with salad and blue cheese dressing and avacado, or barbecued pork with lots of sauce or breaded pork loins with cheese topping, heck go to Applebees or similar restaurant and get over 2-3,000 cals in one meal!, Olive garden's never ending pasta bowl goes over 3k cal easy, any buffet...etc etc etc...now I'm hungry
Uhh. Sure. Not everyone has the appetite of an ex obese man.
24oz steak. Lol yeah sure no problem
It's doable of course. Its not enjoyable for those us not used to being fat
Eating at a large surplus destroys appetite in the long term. Completely different from being an obese man who literally eats that way to maintain weight (albeit fat)
Most of you are also severely overestimating calories in this thread.
Ive eaten at 5000 calories every day for 3 years now. It's certainly possible. It will never feel good, it gunks up and slows down your digestive system over time. And its a perpetual state of being bloated.
Ooooh, the ex-obese and "not used to being fat" comments, I think he's trying to take a dig at me! Well, actually my appetite came from building muscle too, like you, then later work didn't allow me to continue with the same levels of exercise, but appetite followed. You say 5,500, thats more than OP, and more than I've done for months on end. Never came across a problem like you feel though at around 4,500/day, and right now 4,100/day to "spend" feels like heaven!
Anyways, its very common to eat 3,500-4kcals/day in the US, that IS the exact way a lot of people become obese (you know, all those articles about people omitting 30-50% in reported cals they eat?). You all are waving food in front of the calorie restricted's faces when you complain about increasing intakes on this site, you really expect sympathy?!?!? 0 -
Not a dig at you at all. Those really are pretty hearty meals though. For most of us, that is a chore to cook and consume daily. I think a lot of us who are not used to eating so much, or being larger at one point and needing the food, have an aversion to the feeling of being full all the time. 10 pieces of bacon, and 3 sausages, and cheese etc backs me up. Sure tastes good though! The problem becomes being able to eat the next meal. I could eat that breakfast and feel full till 9 pm. No exaggeration.
It is like you say though. Most larger people chronically underestimate (or omit) calories consumed. And the reverse is true, most smaller people or ectomorphs chronically overestimate how much they eat daily. For ectomorphs like me, dieting is MUCH more enjoyable than force feeding. I feel great and very healthy at 2500-3000 calories a day. I'd lose 4 lbs a week doing that though.0 -
You all are waving food in front of the calorie restricted's faces when you complain about increasing intakes on this site, you really expect sympathy?!?!?
Just to be clear, this thread is in the "Goal: Gaining Weight" section...
...so it seems like a reasonable place to complain about things like this.0 -
Anyways, its very common to eat 3,500-4kcals/day in the US, that IS the exact way a lot of people become obese (you know, all those articles about people omitting 30-50% in reported cals they eat?). You all are waving food in front of the calorie restricted's faces when you complain about increasing intakes on this site, you really expect sympathy?!?!?
Very true. In fact my experience tells me that the average obese American male eats about 3500-4500 calories a day, and the average obese woman about 500-1000 less than that.
It's really amazing what one can adjust to over time and come to expect, either up or down, in terms of caloric intake.0 -
Not a dig at you at all. Those really are pretty hearty meals though. For most of us, that is a chore to cook and consume daily. I think a lot of us who are not used to eating so much, or being larger at one point and needing the food, have an aversion to the feeling of being full all the time. 10 pieces of bacon, and 3 sausages, and cheese etc backs me up. Sure tastes good though! The problem becomes being able to eat the next meal. I could eat that breakfast and feel full till 9 pm. No exaggeration.
It is like you say though. Most larger people chronically underestimate (or omit) calories consumed. And the reverse is true, most smaller people or ectomorphs chronically overestimate how much they eat daily. For ectomorphs like me, dieting is MUCH more enjoyable than force feeding. I feel great and very healthy at 2500-3000 calories a day. I'd lose 4 lbs a week doing that though.
Are you saying that you think people like you or I who have high insulin sensitivity, were never fat, and maybe went through an underweight period at some point, can never feel good at the 4000-4500 calorie level, even if the body needs all of it? Just 6 months ago, I would never have dreamed of being able to eat 3000-3700 calories every day, but now I'm doing it. Is it uncomfortable sometimes? Yeah. But not all the time. Do I get more of a dopamine high by eating a deficit or letting hunger linger rather than eating a surplus? Yeah. Is it going to stop me? Nope. Do I consider what I'm doing force feeding? Not usually. I feel like by the time I'm where you are my hunger level will have recalibrated, making 4000 calories feel not too much different from how 3000 feels now.
Btw, if you want to push body types, some of the obese people around today were actually what you'd call ectomorphic originally. But the body undergoes changes over time as fat accumulates, reducing insulin sensitivity, in effect making such people hormonally more endomorphic over time, compounding the issue. (I've heard a lot of formerly skinny, now fat people say that the more weight they gained, the easier it was to gain more. Habits and hormone changes have got to be responsible, and reinforce each other.)
All I know is, people in general have no conception of how many calories are in foods, how much they're eating, or how much they should be eating. That's why we log. I was hoping someday I can learn to do it without logging. But there are so many different foods, I don't know if that's possible. And hunger is totally unreliable. Most times if I wated for full blowin hunger, I'd undereat by 500 calories per day. (Though I could see it going the other direction too, someday.)0 -
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