Working out 6 hrs a day?????

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  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    She said 6 hours a day. Not 6 consecutive hours a day. One could essentially work out 2 hours in the morning, 2 in the afternoon and then 2 in the evening.
    At one time I was working out 4 hours a day (I was a total gym rat back then) and would come in 2 hours in the morning and then 2 hours in the evening. Mind you it was working out all the way through those 2 hours. Some of it was resting and BSing with the gym friends.

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    On 1600 calories a day though?

    There are physique competitors out there who do this. They don't do it all the time.

    This lady did it to win $250,000. She said she got overzealous. To me, that's a clear indication she isn't still working out 6 hours a day.

    That's fine....doesn't really change my opinion over the health aspect of it.

    How is this any different than a wrestler or MMA fighter cutting weight for a fight? She prbably did all the bobybuilding tricks to dehydrate and I would guess she gained 10 lbs with in 10 hours of that show (but no one wants to ask those questions.)

    It may not be. I don't agree, nor do I believe it is healthy the way many wrestlers or fighters cut weight either.
  • EvgeniZyntx
    EvgeniZyntx Posts: 24,208 Member
    Hypergymnasia or sports anorexia is a real thing, even if not ICD10 classified.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypergymnasia

    Future triad.
  • SunofaBeach14
    SunofaBeach14 Posts: 4,899 Member
    She said 6 hours a day. Not 6 consecutive hours a day. One could essentially work out 2 hours in the morning, 2 in the afternoon and then 2 in the evening.
    At one time I was working out 4 hours a day (I was a total gym rat back then) and would come in 2 hours in the morning and then 2 hours in the evening. Mind you it was working out all the way through those 2 hours. Some of it was resting and BSing with the gym friends.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal/Group FitnessTrainer
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    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    On 1600 calories a day though?

    There are physique competitors out there who do this. They don't do it all the time.

    This lady did it to win $250,000. She said she got overzealous. To me, that's a clear indication she isn't still working out 6 hours a day.

    That's fine....doesn't really change my opinion over the health aspect of it.

    How is this any different than a wrestler or MMA fighter cutting weight for a fight? She prbably did all the bobybuilding tricks to dehydrate and I would guess she gained 10 lbs with in 10 hours of that show (but no one wants to ask those questions.)

    It may not be. I don't agree, nor do I believe it is healthy the way many wrestlers or fighters cut weight either.

    Agreed. Competitors do what they have to to make weight and for other competitive reasons, but that doesn't make their actions something to emulate.
  • SingingSingleTracker
    SingingSingleTracker Posts: 1,866 Member
    There are physique competitors out there who do this. They don't do it all the time.

    This lady did it to win $250,000. She said she got overzealous. To me, that's a clear indication she isn't still working out 6 hours a day.

    Not to mention, she's in maintenance mode now which requires a lot less. The weight has all already been shed. $250K, and from an elite national swimming athletic background - she obviously was the right candidate to win the prize as she was no stranger to hard physical work to achieve goals.

    Professional cyclists put in 2 - 6 hours a day on the bike - year round. Nobody bats an eye.
  • 33Freya
    33Freya Posts: 468 Member
    And probably all cardio- they have to lose the biggest percentage of WEIGHT, so muscle as well as fat and water... She's going to have some major repairs to do to get her metabolism and body fat % to healthy now...
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    She said 6 hours a day. Not 6 consecutive hours a day. One could essentially work out 2 hours in the morning, 2 in the afternoon and then 2 in the evening.
    At one time I was working out 4 hours a day (I was a total gym rat back then) and would come in 2 hours in the morning and then 2 hours in the evening. Mind you it was working out all the way through those 2 hours. Some of it was resting and BSing with the gym friends.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal/Group FitnessTrainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    On 1600 calories a day though?

    There are physique competitors out there who do this. They don't do it all the time.

    This lady did it to win $250,000. She said she got overzealous. To me, that's a clear indication she isn't still working out 6 hours a day.

    That's fine....doesn't really change my opinion over the health aspect of it.

    How is this any different than a wrestler or MMA fighter cutting weight for a fight? She prbably did all the bobybuilding tricks to dehydrate and I would guess she gained 10 lbs with in 10 hours of that show (but no one wants to ask those questions.)

    It may not be. I don't agree, nor do I believe it is healthy the way many wrestlers or fighters cut weight either.

    Agreed. Competitors do what they have to to make weight and for other competitive reasons, but that doesn't make their actions something to emulate.

    ^^Yep. Our HS wrestling team is top 40 in the nation and it's crazy to see what these kids do to themselves to make weight. Especially the kids trying to hit that lower weight (after they get out of junior high).
  • TNA's wrestler Kurt Angle works out 8 hours a day. :p

    Yeah but Kurt Angle is an Olympic gold medal winner.

    It is also his full time job to perform on TV athletically

    ;)
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    There are physique competitors out there who do this. They don't do it all the time.

    This lady did it to win $250,000. She said she got overzealous. To me, that's a clear indication she isn't still working out 6 hours a day.

    Not to mention, she's in maintenance mode now which requires a lot less. The weight has all already been shed. $250K, and from an elite national swimming athletic background - she obviously was the right candidate to win the prize as she was no stranger to hard physical work to achieve goals.

    Professional cyclists put in 2 - 6 hours a day on the bike - year round. Nobody bats an eye.

    And they probably eat more.
  • tyrsnbdr
    tyrsnbdr Posts: 234 Member
    She said 6 hours a day. Not 6 consecutive hours a day. One could essentially work out 2 hours in the morning, 2 in the afternoon and then 2 in the evening.
    At one time I was working out 4 hours a day (I was a total gym rat back then) and would come in 2 hours in the morning and then 2 hours in the evening. Mind you it was working out all the way through those 2 hours. Some of it was resting and BSing with the gym friends.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal/Group FitnessTrainer
    IDEA Fitness member
    Kickboxing Certified Instructor
    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    On 1600 calories a day though?

    There are physique competitors out there who do this. They don't do it all the time.

    This lady did it to win $250,000. She said she got overzealous. To me, that's a clear indication she isn't still working out 6 hours a day.

    That's fine....doesn't really change my opinion over the health aspect of it.

    How is this any different than a wrestler or MMA fighter cutting weight for a fight? She prbably did all the bobybuilding tricks to dehydrate and I would guess she gained 10 lbs with in 10 hours of that show (but no one wants to ask those questions.)

    It may not be. I don't agree, nor do I believe it is healthy the way many wrestlers or fighters cut weight either.

    Sure, it's "not healthy," but that's not the point of the contest. Just like fighters, BBers, models, and any other profession that cuts weight to make a certain apperance or weight for their sport/contest. Again, what is her weight 24 hours after the contest? 72 hours? 1 week? 2 weeks?

    Why are judging her "not healthy" weight, when we dont know what her non-contest weight really is.
  • kbmnurse
    kbmnurse Posts: 2,484 Member
    IDIOT!
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    TNA's wrestler Kurt Angle works out 8 hours a day. :p

    That's his job.:smile:

    And....stay with me here...I'm guessing he does a better job of fueling himself.

    No way dude...1200 calories all the way...everyone knows that's more than enough...

    And just for the people who take everything around here so literally...

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  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member

    Sure, it's "not healthy," but that's not the point of the contest. Just like fighters, BBers, models, and any other profession that cuts weight to make a certain apperance or weight for their sport/contest. Again, what is her weight 24 hours after the contest? 72 hours? 1 week? 2 weeks?

    Why are judging her "not healthy" weight, when we dont know what her non-contest weight really is.

    IDK, I'm not talking about the weight. I'm talking about the actions that were taken to get there. Thanks for pointing out it's "not the point" like none of us knew that. So we can't call the practice unhealthy if "it's not the point" of the contest.

    Dohkay.
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    TNA's wrestler Kurt Angle works out 8 hours a day. :p

    That's his job.:smile:

    And....stay with me here...I'm guessing he does a better job of fueling himself.

    No way dude...1200 calories all the way...everyone knows that's more than enough...

    And just for the people who take everything around here so literally...

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    Is that 1200 net or gross?
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    Also, I have had 4-6 hour tours on my bike on a couple of occasions...on those occasions I usually end up eating around 4,500 - 5,500 calories gross or more. Of course, that's in maintenance...if I was trying to lose weight I would still consume around 3,500 - 4,500 calories.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    TNA's wrestler Kurt Angle works out 8 hours a day. :p

    That's his job.:smile:

    And....stay with me here...I'm guessing he does a better job of fueling himself.

    No way dude...1200 calories all the way...everyone knows that's more than enough...

    And just for the people who take everything around here so literally...

    sarcasm1.gif

    Is that 1200 net or gross?

    Gross of course...I want my net to be negative...I'm trying to lose weight bro. I figure a good 4 hours on my bike I burn around 1900 calories or so...so if I only eat 1200 then I'm netting -700 calories = WINNING!!!!

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  • Kenazwa
    Kenazwa Posts: 278 Member
    Some people - like my husband - have to work physically hard for more than 6 hours per day because their jobs require it. Is anybody going to call them crazy?
  • RunHardBeStrong
    RunHardBeStrong Posts: 33,069 Member
    WHAAT?! I can hardly stand 6 hours a week. Heck 6 hours a week at the gym is better than most weeks for me.

    Lol! I'm with you! My understanding from the interview I read from her was that she does 2 hours exercise a day and the other 4 hours are just spent walking at a comfortable pace on one of those working desk treadmills. Do I think 1600 calories is enough for that activity level? No. But at least she's not going balls to the wall for all 6 hours!
  • ElliottTN
    ElliottTN Posts: 1,614 Member
    Only 6 hours of physical activity and a guaranteed 1600 calories a day would be heaven to our not to distant ancestors. Funny how it is shocking to us.
  • tyrsnbdr
    tyrsnbdr Posts: 234 Member

    Sure, it's "not healthy," but that's not the point of the contest. Just like fighters, BBers, models, and any other profession that cuts weight to make a certain apperance or weight for their sport/contest. Again, what is her weight 24 hours after the contest? 72 hours? 1 week? 2 weeks?

    Why are judging her "not healthy" weight, when we dont know what her non-contest weight really is.

    IDK, I'm not talking about the weight. I'm talking about the actions that were taken to get there. Thanks for pointing out it's "not the point" like none of us knew that. So we can't call the practice unhealthy if "it's not the point" of the contest.

    Dohkay.

    So, how is it different for all the examples I gave? Why is she a villian and Anderson Silva or GSP or Ronnie Coleman or Jay Cutler are heros? Where are all the threads on Rousey weighing in and how she's unhealthy? I don't care that she used every effective method there is to get her weight down for a 60 minute show. I will only evauate her on what she does now. Again, I would wager she weighs 10lbs more today than she did 2 weeks ago.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    Some people - like my husband - have to work physically hard for more than 6 hours per day because their jobs require it. Is anybody going to call them crazy?

    I would if he didn't properly fuel himself...that's kinda the point here.

    As I noted earlier, I have gone out on 4-6 hour bike rides and even when I was losing I would still eat around 3500 - 4500 calories depending on the ride. When I was in the Marine Corps and in the field training which was more like 10 - 12 hours of hard physical labor, I ate upwards of 8,000 calories.

    It's not the activity that makes it crazy...it's the activity combined with a complete lack of proper fueling that is both crazy and really dangerous. I don't see how people are so ignorant as to be missing this point.
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member

    Sure, it's "not healthy," but that's not the point of the contest. Just like fighters, BBers, models, and any other profession that cuts weight to make a certain apperance or weight for their sport/contest. Again, what is her weight 24 hours after the contest? 72 hours? 1 week? 2 weeks?

    Why are judging her "not healthy" weight, when we dont know what her non-contest weight really is.

    IDK, I'm not talking about the weight. I'm talking about the actions that were taken to get there. Thanks for pointing out it's "not the point" like none of us knew that. So we can't call the practice unhealthy if "it's not the point" of the contest.

    Dohkay.

    So, how is it different for all the examples I gave? Why is she a villian and Anderson Silva or GSP or Ronnie Coleman or Jay Cutler are heros? Where are all the threads on Rousey weighing in and how she's unhealthy? I don't care that she used every effective method there is to get her weight down for a 60 minute show. I will only evauate her on what she does now. Again, I would wager she weighs 10lbs more today than she did 2 weeks ago.

    I will guess the lack of threads would be due to the lack of coverage on it..... How did I say it was different again, pretty sure I disagreed with the steps that wrestlers and fighters take to cut weight, especially HS or college wrestlers.

    It's their body, so do what they want, but I can still have an opinion on it.
  • SunofaBeach14
    SunofaBeach14 Posts: 4,899 Member

    Sure, it's "not healthy," but that's not the point of the contest. Just like fighters, BBers, models, and any other profession that cuts weight to make a certain apperance or weight for their sport/contest. Again, what is her weight 24 hours after the contest? 72 hours? 1 week? 2 weeks?

    Why are judging her "not healthy" weight, when we dont know what her non-contest weight really is.

    IDK, I'm not talking about the weight. I'm talking about the actions that were taken to get there. Thanks for pointing out it's "not the point" like none of us knew that. So we can't call the practice unhealthy if "it's not the point" of the contest.

    Dohkay.

    So, how is it different for all the examples I gave? Why is she a villian and Anderson Silva or GSP or Ronnie Coleman or Jay Cutler are heros? Where are all the threads on Rousey weighing in and how she's unhealthy? I don't care that she used every effective method there is to get her weight down for a 60 minute show. I will only evauate her on what she does now. Again, I would wager she weighs 10lbs more today than she did 2 weeks ago.

    That's a very either or approach. No one on here has said those people are heros. I will say that those people are not holding themselves out as examples of a how an overweight person should become fit. My personal criticism is of the show itself, in that it is creating some rather unrealistic expectations and unhealthy approaches to weight loss. It's not something I get worked up over though.
  • BlueBombers
    BlueBombers Posts: 4,064 Member
    Yeah, that is just going a wee bit overboard.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    So, how is it different for all the examples I gave? Why is she a villian and Anderson Silva or GSP or Ronnie Coleman or Jay Cutler are heros? Where are all the threads on Rousey weighing in and how she's unhealthy? I don't care that she used every effective method there is to get her weight down for a 60 minute show. I will only evauate her on what she does now. Again, I would wager she weighs 10lbs more today than she did 2 weeks ago.

    Who said those people were heroes? How many people here on MFP even know who those people are? Biggest Loser is on prime time television and it's "Reality TV"...which means for a lot of people around here, it is indeed reality and would be perceived as safe...I mean if they're doing it on the biggest loser, it must be safe and totally doable right? Never mind the fact that these people are under pretty close doctor supervision due to the fact that they are in reality doing all kinds of dangerous *kitten* **** for what amounts to a glorified games show...yet MFPers are like, "if they can do it, so can I."

    Have you really never seen the BL threads around here and people wondering why they don't lose like the people of BL and what not? People around here actually take that **** seriously and it is reality to them...that's the problem.
  • tyrsnbdr
    tyrsnbdr Posts: 234 Member
    So, how is it different for all the examples I gave? Why is she a villian and Anderson Silva or GSP or Ronnie Coleman or Jay Cutler are heros? Where are all the threads on Rousey weighing in and how she's unhealthy? I don't care that she used every effective method there is to get her weight down for a 60 minute show. I will only evauate her on what she does now. Again, I would wager she weighs 10lbs more today than she did 2 weeks ago.

    Who said those people were heroes? How many people here on MFP even know who those people are? Biggest Loser is on prime time television and it's "Reality TV"...which means for a lot of people around here, it is indeed reality and would be perceived as safe...I mean if they're doing it on the biggest loser, it must be safe and totally doable right? Never mind the fact that these people are under pretty close doctor supervision due to the fact that they are in reality doing all kinds of dangerous *kitten* **** for what amounts to a glorified games show...yet MFPers are like, "if they can do it, so can I."

    Have you really never seen the BL threads around here and people wondering why they don't lose like the people of BL and what not? People around here actually take that **** seriously and it is reality to them...that's the problem.


    @cwolfman13, sonofabeach14, RGv2: I guess I'm out of touch and have a different mentality than the general population here. Not the first time, nor the last. I see Rachel's win as a sports contest (Sports, the original Reality TV!!) and put her into a category with all other athletic competitions. Football, basketball, skiing/snowboarding (or any X-game type sport), BBers, etc, etc, all do things that wouldn’t be considered “healthy.” I understand and respect them for what they do and applaud their success.

    I don’t hate them for doing things that I would never do and would never suggest others to do. I guess I will never understand the hate (you gents weren’t hating, just stating that her method isn’t a recommended technique) on her.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 49,030 Member
    She said 6 hours a day. Not 6 consecutive hours a day. One could essentially work out 2 hours in the morning, 2 in the afternoon and then 2 in the evening.
    At one time I was working out 4 hours a day (I was a total gym rat back then) and would come in 2 hours in the morning and then 2 hours in the evening. Mind you it was working out all the way through those 2 hours. Some of it was resting and BSing with the gym friends.

    A.C.E. Certified Personal/Group FitnessTrainer
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    Been in fitness for 30 years and have studied kinesiology and nutrition

    On 1600 calories a day though?
    Well she didn't die, although it did look like she lost muscle mass along with the fat. I'm betting that the majority of the workout was probably some very moderate cardio too.
    This isn't the way I would recommend how to lose weight safely or effectively, but if we're addressing working out 6 hours a day, I could see how it's possible.

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  • VelveteenArabian
    VelveteenArabian Posts: 758 Member
    How else are those people on the show going to lose as much weight as they do in they time they do without surgery? It's because their entire lives are revolving around what they eat and how much they work out for the duration of the program.
  • cwolfman13
    cwolfman13 Posts: 41,865 Member
    So, how is it different for all the examples I gave? Why is she a villian and Anderson Silva or GSP or Ronnie Coleman or Jay Cutler are heros? Where are all the threads on Rousey weighing in and how she's unhealthy? I don't care that she used every effective method there is to get her weight down for a 60 minute show. I will only evauate her on what she does now. Again, I would wager she weighs 10lbs more today than she did 2 weeks ago.

    Who said those people were heroes? How many people here on MFP even know who those people are? Biggest Loser is on prime time television and it's "Reality TV"...which means for a lot of people around here, it is indeed reality and would be perceived as safe...I mean if they're doing it on the biggest loser, it must be safe and totally doable right? Never mind the fact that these people are under pretty close doctor supervision due to the fact that they are in reality doing all kinds of dangerous *kitten* **** for what amounts to a glorified games show...yet MFPers are like, "if they can do it, so can I."

    Have you really never seen the BL threads around here and people wondering why they don't lose like the people of BL and what not? People around here actually take that **** seriously and it is reality to them...that's the problem.


    @cwolfman13, sonofabeach14, RGv2: I guess I'm out of touch and have a different mentality than the general population here. Not the first time, nor the last. I see Rachel's win as a sports contest (Sports, the original Reality TV!!) and put her into a category with all other athletic competitions. Football, basketball, skiing/snowboarding (or any X-game type sport), BBers, etc, etc, all do things that wouldn’t be considered “healthy.” I understand and respect them for what they do and applaud their success.

    I don’t hate them for doing things that I would never do and would never suggest others to do. I guess I will never understand the hate (you gents weren’t hating, just stating that her method isn’t a recommended technique) on her.

    Definitely not hating on her...I hate on the show in general though because the vast majority of people do not look at it as necessarily a competition or sport, etc...they think it's reality...they think they should be doing those kind of things to lose weight and if they're not, they're seriously failing. It's sad, but it's true...a lot of people take that show very seriously and look to it for inspiration and motivation, not entertainment. People either ignore or are oblivious to the destructive behavior that takes place on that show.
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    So, how is it different for all the examples I gave? Why is she a villian and Anderson Silva or GSP or Ronnie Coleman or Jay Cutler are heros? Where are all the threads on Rousey weighing in and how she's unhealthy? I don't care that she used every effective method there is to get her weight down for a 60 minute show. I will only evauate her on what she does now. Again, I would wager she weighs 10lbs more today than she did 2 weeks ago.

    Who said those people were heroes? How many people here on MFP even know who those people are? Biggest Loser is on prime time television and it's "Reality TV"...which means for a lot of people around here, it is indeed reality and would be perceived as safe...I mean if they're doing it on the biggest loser, it must be safe and totally doable right? Never mind the fact that these people are under pretty close doctor supervision due to the fact that they are in reality doing all kinds of dangerous *kitten* **** for what amounts to a glorified games show...yet MFPers are like, "if they can do it, so can I."

    Have you really never seen the BL threads around here and people wondering why they don't lose like the people of BL and what not? People around here actually take that **** seriously and it is reality to them...that's the problem.


    @cwolfman13, sonofabeach14, RGv2: I guess I'm out of touch and have a different mentality than the general population here. Not the first time, nor the last. I see Rachel's win as a sports contest (Sports, the original Reality TV!!) and put her into a category with all other athletic competitions. Football, basketball, skiing/snowboarding (or any X-game type sport), BBers, etc, etc, all do things that wouldn’t be considered “healthy.” I understand and respect them for what they do and applaud their success.

    I don’t hate them for doing things that I would never do and would never suggest others to do. I guess I will never understand the hate (you gents weren’t hating, just stating that her method isn’t a recommended technique) on her.

    Definitely not hating on her...I hate on the show in general though because the vast majority of people do not look at it as necessarily a competition or sport, etc...they think it's reality...they think they should be doing those kind of things to lose weight and if they're not, they're seriously failing. It's sad, but it's true...a lot of people take that show very seriously and look to it for inspiration and motivation, not entertainment. People either ignore or are oblivious to the destructive behavior that takes place on that show.

    We have a bingo.
  • SingingSingleTracker
    SingingSingleTracker Posts: 1,866 Member
    There are physique competitors out there who do this. They don't do it all the time.

    This lady did it to win $250,000. She said she got overzealous. To me, that's a clear indication she isn't still working out 6 hours a day.

    Not to mention, she's in maintenance mode now which requires a lot less. The weight has all already been shed. $250K, and from an elite national swimming athletic background - she obviously was the right candidate to win the prize as she was no stranger to hard physical work to achieve goals.

    Professional cyclists put in 2 - 6 hours a day on the bike - year round. Nobody bats an eye.

    And they probably eat more.

    Yes, but they are not trying to drop weight. When they are (say after a weight gain in the off racing season), they do long, slow endurance hours with a strict caloric deficit to drop the weight - just as Rachel did. When they are in racing season doing those big hours, they can eat up to 8000 Calories a day and still look like camp survivors...

    P.S. There is already a huge thread on this (Rachel's win of the Biggest Loser) in the Success Stories forum...if anyone is interested.