Need some advice...
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Again, thanks but no thanks.
I know how to listen to my body and when I go for my military style calisthenics followed by legit boxing for an hour at 9 AM I need to make sure I have fuel (food a.k.a., breakfast in my body) to endure. I admit that when I do morning cardio I almost always do it in a fasted state but for more intense activities I need the food. I am not overweight... just looking to lose the last few vanity pounds and really tone up. And again, I am a breakfast person... I wake up hungry and eat a healthy breakfast almost every day, and it fills me and satisfies me and gives me tons of energy to get through my busy mornings and into the early afternoon. I go for a light lunch and a heavier early dinner. I think my timings and food choices are spot on for my own personal overall health and wellbeing. I am happy with that and have no desire to change it. I am just looking for advice on my numbers and calorie range at this point.
^This - anyone who 1) tells you to skip meals, and, 2) tells you when you should and shouldn't eat is clearly a douche IMO. But everyone is different! :ohwell:
ad hominem attacks!
the last refuge of the incompetent....
You're right. There is nothing wrong with skipping breakfast. There is also nothing wrong with eating breakfast. OP is very clear in wanting to eat breakfast. So why are you still pushing it? To be right?0 -
Eh... thanks but I don't think so. I am a breakfast person and believe that it's the most important meal of the day. I'm not into skipping meals, I want to nourish my body and give it the fuel it needs to be healthy.
(reading this, Piglet?)
If you are overweight, by, say, ten pounds, you can stop eating entirely and just drink water and you will do just fine for ten days.
In other words, the food you eat this morning your body does NOT need.
And there is no such thing as metabolic machinery that needs to be started up.
And...your glucose (of concern to some) will do just fine whether you eat breakfast or not.
This is science. This is how your body works. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
By not eating breakfast, as I outlined in my post, I can eat pretty much whatever I want the rest of the day.
Check out the freebie pages on the Kindle site of Dr. Hagan's "Breakfast: The least important meal of the day" to give you more reassurance.
Losing weight in the end is a psychological game.
Not how the body works. If you fast it will go into famine mode. Not a good thing.0 -
I disagree that all weight loss is created equal.
Your assuming we all have the metabolic rate???
Plus just eating more than we burn Is too simplistic (yes it will end in weight loss, but not necessary healthy weight loss).
Different horses for different courses.0 -
Breakfast to "kick start" metabolism?
OUCH! OUCH! OUCH!
Again:. Google "Hagan" and "Breakfast:Least important Meal of the Day"
It is a Kindle site.
DON'T BUY ANYTHING!
But read the first freebie 40 pages of the book.
Learn.
I don't feel the need to find out whether I should be eating breakfast or not - it's mine, OPs and everyone else's choice. I would also prefer to listen to advice of nutritionists (and no, I'm not going to 'name them' - no reason to justify myself to you).
At the end of the day, people do what works best for them. If not eating breakfast works best for you then I applaud you. But leave us breakfast-lovers alone. Thanks
That's the problem.
People think they are different and what works for one doesn't work for another.
Diversity is to be accepted, right?
WRONG!!
Everyone here who wants to lose weight has the EXACT SAME METABOLISM.
They have the EXACT SAME NEUROLOGIC MAKE-UP.
Weight is lost the EXACT SAME WAY.
We are only superficially different, but 99.99% the same.
Now, you can lose weight by burning more calories.
You can lose weight by ingesting less calories.
Running a calorie deficit.
Right?
For most people, it is far easier and more convenient to consume less calories than to burn them away doing otherwise pointless physical activity.
One vastly under-appreciated technique is to modify hunger, i.e. your psychological response to the signals that your stomach is empty.
It can be done and "naturally" thin people have learned it on their own.
You can, too.
In fact, mastering that approach should be the FIRST STEP in weight loss, and it might be the ONLY step you will need.
Saying that weight loss is different for everyone is a talk-show cop-out.
And, no, I will not leave you breakfast-lovers alone. Smiley face or no.
Do you want to lose weight or not?
As someone else has pointed out - this thread is for the OP, not me.
But if you must know - I'm not looking to lose 'weight', my personal goal is to reduce BF% and 'tone' muscles. Lost 2 stone in the past, and, yes, you guessed, I ate breakfast :laugh:0 -
Eh... thanks but I don't think so. I am a breakfast person and believe that it's the most important meal of the day. I'm not into skipping meals, I want to nourish my body and give it the fuel it needs to be healthy.
(reading this, Piglet?)
If you are overweight, by, say, ten pounds, you can stop eating entirely and just drink water and you will do just fine for ten days.
In other words, the food you eat this morning your body does NOT need.
And there is no such thing as metabolic machinery that needs to be started up.
And...your glucose (of concern to some) will do just fine whether you eat breakfast or not.
This is science. This is how your body works. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
By not eating breakfast, as I outlined in my post, I can eat pretty much whatever I want the rest of the day.
Check out the freebie pages on the Kindle site of Dr. Hagan's "Breakfast: The least important meal of the day" to give you more reassurance.
Losing weight in the end is a psychological game.
Not how the body works. If you fast it will go into famine mode. Not a good thing.
Based on what - will it go into famine mode?0 -
Well done on the weight loss.
Hey when it comes to breakfast I swing both ways - if I'm hungry in the morning - I eat. If I'm not I don't.0 -
Well done on the weight loss.
Hey when it comes to breakfast I swing both ways - if I'm hungry in the morning - I eat. If I'm not I don't.
How it should be - listen to your body.0 -
I'm at a stand still! Can't get motivated!0
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What I have found with my body is that it never does what the math tells me it will do. I up my calories and lose two pounds a week, I bump it down and stop losing all together. Something will work for a while and then suddenly every this stops and I have to change it up. My advice is to try different things when what you're doing stops working for you. As we go through this journey our bodies and needs will change. It is just trial and error.
Start something new, see if it works, repeat. I have found this becomes easier as soon as you let go of, "I have to lose some weight everyday or I'm failing" mentality.
+1
And would like to reiterate weighing everything, you are probably eating more than you think
ETA: If I don't eat breakfast I will pass out so I agree with you OP, eat breakfast and enjoy!0 -
Breakfast to "kick start" metabolism?
OUCH! OUCH! OUCH!
Again:. Google "Hagan" and "Breakfast:Least important Meal of the Day"
It is a Kindle site.
DON'T BUY ANYTHING!
But read the first freebie 40 pages of the book.
Learn.
I don't feel the need to find out whether I should be eating breakfast or not - it's mine, OPs and everyone else's choice. I would also prefer to listen to advice of nutritionists (and no, I'm not going to 'name them' - no reason to justify myself to you).
At the end of the day, people do what works best for them. If not eating breakfast works best for you then I applaud you. But leave us breakfast-lovers alone. Thanks
That's the problem.
People think they are different and what works for one doesn't work for another.
Diversity is to be accepted, right?
WRONG!!
Everyone here who wants to lose weight has the EXACT SAME METABOLISM.
They have the EXACT SAME NEUROLOGIC MAKE-UP.
Weight is lost the EXACT SAME WAY.
We are only superficially different, but 99.99% the same.
Now, you can lose weight by burning more calories.
You can lose weight by ingesting less calories.
Running a calorie deficit.
Right?
For most people, it is far easier and more convenient to consume less calories than to burn them away doing otherwise pointless physical activity.
One vastly under-appreciated technique is to modify hunger, i.e. your psychological response to the signals that your stomach is empty.
It can be done and "naturally" thin people have learned it on their own.
You can, too.
In fact, mastering that approach should be the FIRST STEP in weight loss, and it might be the ONLY step you will need.
Saying that weight loss is different for everyone is a talk-show cop-out.
And, no, I will not leave you breakfast-lovers alone. Smiley face or no.
Do you want to lose weight or not?
Yeah we all get it, you don't have to eat breakfast to lose weight, it all comes down to Cals in vs Cals, but you can eat breakfast if you want. You are trying to make it seem like the only way to lose weight is to skip breakfast which is just as wrong as the people who say you have to eat breakfast to lose weight, and at this point since the OP likes eating breakfast, you really are just making yourself look like somebody who thinks they are smarter than everyone else, but is really somebody who just likes to argue for the sake of arguing. It's like HEY LOOK AT ME I"M SMARTER THAN YOU BECAUSE I DON'T EAT BREAKFAST AND YOU DO FATTY.0 -
The most important thing is to listen to your body. I happen to think that breakfast is important for me because I am hungry when I wake up and technically I just fasted for 8 hours while sleeping. Eating gets your metabolism going. But again the most important thing is to listen to your body! 0
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Yeah we all get it, you don't have to eat breakfast to lose weight, it all comes down to Cals in vs Cals, but you can eat breakfast if you want. You are trying to make it seem like the only way to lose weight is to skip breakfast which is just as wrong as the people who say you have to eat breakfast to lose weight, and at this point since the OP likes eating breakfast, you really are just making yourself look like somebody who thinks they are smarter than everyone else, but is really somebody who just likes to argue for the sake of arguing. It's like HEY LOOK AT ME I"M SMARTER THAN YOU BECAUSE I DON'T EAT BREAKFAST AND YOU DO FATTY.
Steve, Steve, Steve...
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Thanks Angela, great advice. I am waiting on my FitBit now, should have it by the end of the week. I do get the feeling that I am working too hard sometimes. I am of the school of thought that says when my body needs a rest day it will let me know and until then I just keep going with much intensity. Anyway, yes... the food weight thing. I think I am pretty accurate with most things but there is def room for improvement with other things. I will make sure to be more careful about weighing stuff. I always know what I am putting in... drives my husband crazy because I read and read and read when I am in the grocery store. Labels... unless it is a product I buy frequently and already know the nutritiional values. Thanks again! 0
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Thank you, well said! :happy:
I will NEVER give up my breakfast!0 -
What I have found with my body is that it never does what the math tells me it will do. I up my calories and lose two pounds a week, I bump it down and stop losing all together. Something will work for a while and then suddenly every this stops and I have to change it up. My advice is to try different things when what you're doing stops working for you. As we go through this journey our bodies and needs will change. It is just trial and error.
Start something new, see if it works, repeat. I have found this becomes easier as soon as you let go of, "I have to lose some weight everyday or I'm failing" mentality.
Yes, more good advice, thank you for reminding me of this. I used to be really good at finding what works and then tweaking along the way and somehow I got so caught up in the numbers... anyway, Thanks!0 -
So anyway, with the exception of the no breakfast eating, everyone is exactly the same and we need to teach our brains not to be hungry guy... thank you all for the good advice, thoughts, opinions and suggestions. I will most definitely be more careful about weighing my food. I have reset my numbers for now (ignore the workout number I still need to fix that), and will see what happens over the next few weeks. I have actually learned that sometimes, for some folks, eating more means losing more weight. I have felt and seen physical results from that.
Hmmm... it's 11:25 AM, should I eat a third breakfast or should I wait for lunch? hahaha
Oh and related to a previous comment by him... I don't fall for TV commercials and I don't eat processed sugary cereals or instant oatmeal or anything like that. Also, I am healthy and fit and at a really good weight (cept for the vanity pounds because of a fitness challenge I am in), and I stuff my face like crazy for breakfast. I literally roll out of bed, yawn, stretch, do a quick 10 or 15 minute wake up cardio burn and then and start eating healthy grains, proteins, fats, yogurt, dairy, etc, etc... Just today I had egg whites, turkey bacon and a slice of flax pita with cinnamon on it, then I worked out and right after I had a half of a banana and a half of an apple, then I got home and ate a quarter of a piece of flax lavash with some soy nut butter smeared all over it. DELISH! haha.. sorry I am being sarcastic.
Although I would agree that the mind has to be trained to enjoy other than enjoyable things... like mountain climbers or chest to floor burpees. They suck but while you're doing them if you don't give in and just keep telling yourself you love doing them, eventually you can whip right through them no problem
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Not how the body works. If you fast it will go into famine mode. Not a good thing.
There are actually a couple studies showing that eating just one meal a day vs. spreading the calories out over 3 meals a day improved body composition, lowered %bf and conserved muscle, even though it wasn't any better for losing weight. Not the was I'd like to go about it at all.
OP. I'm with the peeps saying to measure your food and aim for no more than -5% of your TDEE. Losing 8 lb sounds unhealthy.0
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