The 11 Most Destructive Nutrition Lies Ever Told

ninerbuff

White processed sugar and flour are poison. There is not a scrap of credible research to show that there are any health benefits from either that over ride a single negative.

I would think that intake of refined sugar (through a drink let's say) helps to provide energy for an intense workout. Good workouts increase health and fitness benefits. And what about a diabetic going into shock? Why are they given fast acting processed simple sugar to survive?

Let's not make a blanket statement.

Edit: Just to say there isn't a scrap of credible evidence that shows moderate intake of processed sugar and flour will poison you.

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no food in moderation will poison you. moderation being the key term. I'd have to say that the human race hasn't been notoriously good at practicing moderation, has it?

So then you'd have to modify your statement of refined sugar and flour? Though I don't think it's poison, since poisoning someone will actually kill them and an autopsy would be able to determine what toxin actually caused death, I'd say ANYTHING in excess places a toll on the body.
As for the human race, depends on where you place the onus. I for one believe the Japanese and most Asian countries do pretty well with moderation.

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No, I don't need to revise it. refined sugars can and will kill you. They aren't gonna strap on an ankle blade and shank you in the alley, but they do cause damage, significant damage that has been proven to contribute to death in some serious cases. Also, poisoning doesn't equate killing anyway. Poisoning can just make a person sick; even allergies are a form of poisoning and only rarely do those lead to death. So when I lay my blanket, it is a wide statement. Admittedly, but the exceptions to the rules are the minority, not the majority. And it sucks, bc sugar is tasty.

So what is it then? Moderation of sugar won't poison you or will poison you. You posted two conflicting statements. And do you believe that refined sugar is worse than brown sugar, or maple syrup, or honey for that matter?
And you didn't respond to the moderation answer on Japan.

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stevencloser

That wasn't supposed to be an attack on you but legit interest. Why is the fat loss rate accelerated but then slows down? Or rather why is in the other diet the fat loss rate slower at first but then picks up pace?

Ang108

After extensive research into this, I believe 99% of this is fact. ESPECIALLY in persons already in the beginning phases of metabolic syndrome or with full on diabetes.

Both Low Fat/High Carb and Low Carb/High Fat diets have shown success in longitudinal studies. For those I mentioned before the benefits of a Low/Carb/High Fat diet have been shown to have far and away more long term and immediate health benefits than any Low Fat/High Carb diet ever has.

As for the saturated fats being bad for you, people honestly need to look into the composition of their anatomy. Your internal organs, ie: heart, brain, kidneys, liver, lungs and on and on and on are composed largely of saturated fats. Your body needs fats to survive.

Eggs are literally the stuff of life....if you want to get technical, they ARE life. We just refrigerate it before it can get to a viable stage.

White processed sugar and flour are poison. There is not a scrap of credible research to show that there are any health benefits from either that over ride a single negative.

Gluten sensitivity is very real. there are something like 24 proteins of Gluten. Celiacs is only triggered by one or two of them. IBS, and other inflammatory issues are caused and can be caused by ingestion of gluten. Just because you haven't seen it or experienced it doesn't mean it isn't real.

The eggs we eat aren't fertilized.

And for poison, we did a great job surviving the last 10000 ish years with agriculture.

Maybe the eggs you eat aren't fertilized; the eggs I eat definitely are. They come from a place where two dozen chickens live with a rooster ......

stevencloser

The main reason I don't buy fertilized eggs, besides that it doesn't have any benefits, is that my grandpa once had a half developed chicken fetus in one of his eggs. That was kinda gross.

Hornsby

In for another thread of people with tons of weight to lose telling all the folks that have already been successful that they are poisoning themselves.

HardcoreP0rk

White processed sugar and flour are poison. There is not a scrap of credible research to show that there are any health benefits from either that over ride a single negative.

I would think that intake of refined sugar (through a drink let's say) helps to provide energy for an intense workout. Good workouts increase health and fitness benefits. And what about a diabetic going into shock? Why are they given fast acting processed simple sugar to survive?

Let's not make a blanket statement.

Edit: Just to say there isn't a scrap of credible evidence that shows moderate intake of processed sugar and flour will poison you.

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no food in moderation will poison you. moderation being the key term. I'd have to say that the human race hasn't been notoriously good at practicing moderation, has it?

So then you'd have to modify your statement of refined sugar and flour? Though I don't think it's poison, since poisoning someone will actually kill them and an autopsy would be able to determine what toxin actually caused death, I'd say ANYTHING in excess places a toll on the body.
As for the human race, depends on where you place the onus. I for one believe the Japanese and most Asian countries do pretty well with moderation.

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I'll tell ya where you can place your onus!

HardcoreP0rk

After extensive research into this, I believe 99% of this is fact. ESPECIALLY in persons already in the beginning phases of metabolic syndrome or with full on diabetes.

Both Low Fat/High Carb and Low Carb/High Fat diets have shown success in longitudinal studies. For those I mentioned before the benefits of a Low/Carb/High Fat diet have been shown to have far and away more long term and immediate health benefits than any Low Fat/High Carb diet ever has.

As for the saturated fats being bad for you, people honestly need to look into the composition of their anatomy. Your internal organs, ie: heart, brain, kidneys, liver, lungs and on and on and on are composed largely of saturated fats. Your body needs fats to survive.

Eggs are literally the stuff of life....if you want to get technical, they ARE life. We just refrigerate it before it can get to a viable stage.

White processed sugar and flour are poison. There is not a scrap of credible research to show that there are any health benefits from either that over ride a single negative.

Gluten sensitivity is very real. there are something like 24 proteins of Gluten. Celiacs is only triggered by one or two of them. IBS, and other inflammatory issues are caused and can be caused by ingestion of gluten. Just because you haven't seen it or experienced it doesn't mean it isn't real.

The eggs we eat aren't fertilized.

And for poison, we did a great job surviving the last 10000 ish years with agriculture.

Maybe the eggs you eat aren't fertilized; the eggs I eat definitely are. They come from a place where two dozen chickens live with a rooster ......

And yet they release eggs whether they are fertilized or not...just like people do. You really think every egg you eat is fertilized? You're just assuming. Also, I don't see why it matters.

MelRC117

That wasn't supposed to be an attack on you but legit interest. Why is the fat loss rate accelerated but then slows down? Or rather why is in the other diet the fat loss rate slower at first but then picks up pace?

This site only lets you see the abstract. The abstract doesn't contain the average loss and fat loss beyond that mark.

ninerbuff

And yet they release eggs whether they are fertilized or not...just like people do. You really think every egg you eat is fertilized? You're just assuming. Also, I don't see why it matters.

All that matters is if it's served with BACON or not.

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cwsreddy

I'm curious to hear the discussion on what this community feels about this article. I feel like it makes a lot of good points.

http://www.businessinsider.com/the-11-most-destructive-nutrition-lies-ever-told-2013-11

Hah I actually agree with all 11. Nice list!

TattooTwinset

Sugar is bad; brown sugar is refined as well. . And Japan is a tiny Island nation and is not indicative of the larger
world. If moderation is practiced, cool. But it isn't common.

Edited to add that I don't eat honey or any type of nectar either. It all spikes my blood sugar (which had never been high) I stay away from sugars in general.

TattooTwinset

And yet they release eggs whether they are fertilized or not...just like people do. You really think every egg you eat is fertilized? You're just assuming. Also, I don't see why it matters.

All that matters is if it's served with BACON or not.

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You might die, but I agree with this statement.

TattooTwinset

@stevencloser It's just more concentrated. That's why I try to stay away from it all though.

TattooTwinset

I have been successful with my methods, how is the reverse any less true? I was assuming this was a conversation, not a battle. there isn't any one right way.

Serah87

In. Sugar going to kill me again, at least I died happy!!! JS