MFP uses the NEAT system?

susie3g

I see people saying that MFP uses the NEAT system and I've had it explained to me before. I would like to know if MFP states that they use the NEAT system anywhere on the website. I'm wondering because it doesn't make sense to me that they would ask your activity level if they weren't taking that information into account when setting up fitness goals. I'd just like verification. That's all.

cwolfman13

I see people saying that MFP uses the NEAT system and I've had it explained to me before. I would like to know if MFP states that they use the NEAT system anywhere on the website. I'm wondering because it doesn't make sense to me that they would ask your activity level if they weren't taking that information into account when setting up fitness goals. I'd just like verification. That's all.

you will note that the activity level descriptors are for you day to day work kind of stuff...if you look at a typical TDEE calculator the descriptors will include the number of hours per week that you perform exercise and to what level of effort.

Your fitness goals are just for you...they have no bearing on your calorie goals. If you don't believe me then go in and say no exercise in your fitness goals or change them to whatever you want...your calorie goal won't change. Essentially MFP doesn't believe you're going to do those exercises which is why you log exercise.

Also, why do you think MFP would give you calories to eat back if it wasn't using your NEAT to determine your calorie goals? Do you think MFP is trying to trick you or something?

Also, it doesn't say NEAT specifically...but this is discussed in the stickies which are basically the instructions for using this tool.

QuietBloom

Yes, they use the NEAT system. Your activity level should be what you do on a daily basis that is not specifically planned exercise. If you are a postman, you are more active than a desk jockey, etc. Workouts are entered separately by you, and those calories are to be eaten back.

QuietBloom

I see people saying that MFP uses the NEAT system and I've had it explained to me before. I would like to know if MFP states that they use the NEAT system anywhere on the website. I'm wondering because it doesn't make sense to me that they would ask your activity level if they weren't taking that information into account when setting up fitness goals. I'd just like verification. That's all.

you will note that the activity level descriptors are for you day to day work kind of stuff...if you look at a typical TDEE calculator the descriptors will include the number of hours per week that you perform exercise and to what level of effort.

Your fitness goals are just for you...they have no bearing on your calorie goals. If you don't believe me then go in and say no exercise in your fitness goals or change them to whatever you want...your calorie goal won't change. Essentially MFP doesn't believe you're going to do those exercises which is why you log exercise.

Also, why do you think MFP would give you calories to eat back if it wasn't using your NEAT to determine your calorie goals? Do you think MFP is trying to trick you or something?

Honestly, I think the OP is just confused. :huh:

susie3g

I see people saying that MFP uses the NEAT system and I've had it explained to me before. I would like to know if MFP states that they use the NEAT system anywhere on the website. I'm wondering because it doesn't make sense to me that they would ask your activity level if they weren't taking that information into account when setting up fitness goals. I'd just like verification. That's all.

you will note that the activity level descriptors are for you day to day work kind of stuff...if you look at a typical TDEE calculator the descriptors will include the number of hours per week that you perform exercise and to what level of effort.

Your fitness goals are just for you...they have no bearing on your calorie goals. If you don't believe me then go in and say no exercise in your fitness goals or change them to whatever you want...your calorie goal won't change. Essentially MFP doesn't believe you're going to do those exercises which is why you log exercise.

Also, why do you think MFP would give you calories to eat back if it wasn't using your NEAT to determine your calorie goals? Do you think MFP is trying to trick you or something?

Also, it doesn't say NEAT specifically...but this is discussed in the stickies which are basically the instructions for using this tool.

I apologize. I didn't realize there was a difference in activity level and exercise. No, I don't think that MFP is trying to trick me. I was just looking for those stickies you are talking about. I've heard of people that eat back the calories and those that don't. I'm simply trying to understand something. That's all.

susie3g

Thanks for the responses. I will go search through the stickies to see if I can find what I'm looking for. Have a good day.

cwolfman13

I see people saying that MFP uses the NEAT system and I've had it explained to me before. I would like to know if MFP states that they use the NEAT system anywhere on the website. I'm wondering because it doesn't make sense to me that they would ask your activity level if they weren't taking that information into account when setting up fitness goals. I'd just like verification. That's all.

you will note that the activity level descriptors are for you day to day work kind of stuff...if you look at a typical TDEE calculator the descriptors will include the number of hours per week that you perform exercise and to what level of effort.

Your fitness goals are just for you...they have no bearing on your calorie goals. If you don't believe me then go in and say no exercise in your fitness goals or change them to whatever you want...your calorie goal won't change. Essentially MFP doesn't believe you're going to do those exercises which is why you log exercise.

Also, why do you think MFP would give you calories to eat back if it wasn't using your NEAT to determine your calorie goals? Do you think MFP is trying to trick you or something?

Also, it doesn't say NEAT specifically...but this is discussed in the stickies which are basically the instructions for using this tool.

I apologize. I didn't realize there was a difference in activity level and exercise. No, I don't think that MFP is trying to trick me. I was just looking for those stickies you are talking about. I've heard of people that eat back the calories and those that don't. I'm simply trying to understand something. That's all.

You don't have to apologize for anything...sarcasm and joking around often doesn't come through in typed word.

you just have to be very careful that you aren't overestimating your burn. a lot of people do just that and it can be tricky business. We really don't burn that much with exercise...outside of being an athlete or training for endurance event, most peoples exercise is only going to represent around 10-15% of their total calorie requirements.

When I was losing and using the MFP method I never logged anything beyond 10 calories per minute to be conservative...and that was a workout that left me pretty much unable to really talk while I was doing it. It's a fine line...you want to eat enough to support that activity and aid in recovery (exercise is extremely hard on the body) but not so much that you are unwinding your calorie deficit.

A lot of people don't eat back calories because they've been taught all of their lives that you exercise to lose weight and try to build a deficit with exercise...they simply don't understand the tool or the methodology. Honestly, it's not a tremendously huge deal unless you are eating very low calories and then doing intense exercise on top of that...your body just doesn't get the energy it needs at that point to recover and heal itself. There is also less negative impact when you have a considerable amount of weight to lose...as you lean out, not fueling your fitness can become quite problematic.

susie3g

I see people saying that MFP uses the NEAT system and I've had it explained to me before. I would like to know if MFP states that they use the NEAT system anywhere on the website. I'm wondering because it doesn't make sense to me that they would ask your activity level if they weren't taking that information into account when setting up fitness goals. I'd just like verification. That's all.

you will note that the activity level descriptors are for you day to day work kind of stuff...if you look at a typical TDEE calculator the descriptors will include the number of hours per week that you perform exercise and to what level of effort.

Your fitness goals are just for you...they have no bearing on your calorie goals. If you don't believe me then go in and say no exercise in your fitness goals or change them to whatever you want...your calorie goal won't change. Essentially MFP doesn't believe you're going to do those exercises which is why you log exercise.

Also, why do you think MFP would give you calories to eat back if it wasn't using your NEAT to determine your calorie goals? Do you think MFP is trying to trick you or something?

Also, it doesn't say NEAT specifically...but this is discussed in the stickies which are basically the instructions for using this tool.

I apologize. I didn't realize there was a difference in activity level and exercise. No, I don't think that MFP is trying to trick me. I was just looking for those stickies you are talking about. I've heard of people that eat back the calories and those that don't. I'm simply trying to understand something. That's all.

You don't have to apologize for anything...sarcasm and joking around often doesn't come through in typed word.

you just have to be very careful that you aren't overestimating your burn. a lot of people do just that and it can be tricky business. We really don't burn that much with exercise...outside of being an athlete or training for endurance event, most peoples exercise is only going to represent around 10-15% of their total calorie requirements.

When I was losing and using the MFP method I never logged anything beyond 10 calories per minute to be conservative...and that was a workout that left me pretty much unable to really talk while I was doing it. It's a fine line...you want to eat enough to support that activity and aid in recovery (exercise is extremely hard on the body) but not so much that you are unwinding your calorie deficit.

A lot of people don't eat back calories because they've been taught all of their lives that you exercise to lose weight and try to build a deficit with exercise...they simply don't understand the tool or the methodology. Honestly, it's not a tremendously huge deal unless you are eating very low calories and then doing intense exercise on top of that...your body just doesn't get the energy it needs at that point to recover and heal itself. There is also less negative impact when you have a considerable amount of weight to lose...as you lean out, not fueling your fitness can become quite problematic.

Yes, I've heard that MFP grossly overestimates calories burned. I actually can't last very long exercising right now, and usually I average about 100 calories burned a day. It's not really enough for me to worry about eating back those calories, so I just don't. If I ever get the strength and breath to last longer and have bigger burns, then I'll probably only eat back a certain percentage of the calories burned.

Thanks for taking the time to respond.