The Paleo Diet

What do you think of this diet? I love my grains so I don't think it's for me .
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  • Rocbola
    Rocbola Posts: 1,998 Member
    I agree with the "no dairy" part.
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    What do you think of this diet? I love my grains so I don't think it's for me .

    too much restriction in it for me...I love all food almost equally so it's a no go for me...

    ETA: it's not a diet tho...it's a lifestyle eating plan.
  • FoxyLifter
    FoxyLifter Posts: 965 Member
    If there's no medical reason to do so (doctor's orders), I would skip it. Your plan should be sustainable for life. Why make things harder?
  • nikkihk
    nikkihk Posts: 487 Member
    Eat what makes you happy or you won't be able to sustain it. I love meat so it works for me? BUT I can't not have a roll or bread or noodles etc. every now and again so I just choose better grain options and don't eat them excessively.
  • BrightonChick
    BrightonChick Posts: 48 Member
    I've not long finished trialing this.

    Personally I found the lack of carbohydrates gave me massive energy lows for about a week and a half until my body got used to it I guess, however I wasn't for one minute hungry. Felt like all I was eating was meat though and even though I love my meat and fish...I craved quinoa and cous cous. 4 weeks trailed and I did lose about 7lbs...Wouldn't repeat though only due to the fact I do love a bit of variation. Plus eating out was always a nightmare - there was only so many king prawn and avocado salads i could stomach :)
  • kgeyser
    kgeyser Posts: 22,505 Member
    It's not an eating plan that would be appropriate for my lifestyle or dietary needs.
  • hannamae05
    hannamae05 Posts: 5 Member
    I like grains, don't get me wrong. I also like junk food and all of the stuff that goes along with it. I'll even say that I love dairy - milk and ice cream specifically. I've been doing the Paleo diet off and on for the past few months. And while I haven't always lost weight in numbers, I've certainly lost inches and fat off my body. Personally, I actually feel better without the carb overload from the grains. Switching from cows milk to coconut or almond has been okay. It's different, so it's taken some getting used to, especially since I'm not a fan of almonds. Anyway, it's a good "diet" or lifestyle change. The longer you do it, the more you can get into it - mind set wise. Reading labels and being more aware of what it is you're putting into your body is a good idea. Do we really need all of the chemicals that are in processed food? Really, it's about eating real food, not something that comes in a box. So you're sticking to the outside isles at a grocery store - fruits/veggies; meats; eggs; and choosing coconut or almond milk. Both my husband and I did this for a month back in December, he lost 20lbs and I lost approx. 15lbs. I'd say that we're both eating paleo about 90% of the time over the course of a month.
  • SunofaBeach14
    SunofaBeach14 Posts: 4,899 Member
    I think it's silly
  • RockWarrior84
    RockWarrior84 Posts: 840 Member
    i agree with the not eating crap but everyone is different. Count your calories and you will get results as well on the diet.


    I still want to see a Paleo person hunt/gather their own food besides at a grocery store.
  • Eli716
    Eli716 Posts: 262 Member
    Meh, I think it's okay. I started on it and gradually added breads and diary into it. It's helped me quite a bit. My ticker is my proof, lol.
  • waterwing
    waterwing Posts: 214 Member
    I like the idea of it and dabbled with it a bit in the past. I find that it's tricky to maintain.. especially if you want to have any sort of social life...
    Balance is a good thing!
  • I eat more Primal than Paleo because I do include some dairy, but it isn't just about eating meat all the time. I eat a ton of veggies(6-9 cups per day) of all varieties so i never feel limited in what I can eat. Sure, I do miss some wheat products and will indulge occasionally, but I physically feel terrible afterwards so it is incentive to go back to eating clean and grain free.

    I never feel hungry, in fact I feel full much longer because of the high fiber and protein and fats in the diet. I have a ton of energy because my diet is so filled with nutrients.
  • jofjltncb6
    jofjltncb6 Posts: 34,415 Member
    I liked it during all of calendar 2012 when I was strict "paleo". It's an easy way to get a lot of the micros you need and food prep wasn't awful because I would make a lot of things in bulk. It didn't do anything magic though. I was actually bulking during that year and thanks to a calorie surplus, I added the 20 pounds I wanted to. (Strangely enough, when I cut in early 2013, I was decidedly non-paleo...but thanks to a calorie deficit, I lost the weight I wanted to lose.)

    Conclusion? I have none.
  • VegasFit
    VegasFit Posts: 1,232 Member
    I like the idea of it and dabbled with it a bit in the past. I find that it's tricky to maintain.. especially if you want to have any sort of social life...
    Balance is a good thing!

    Ditto. And I'm not a huge fan of dairy. But I have a lot of friends that follow it about 80-90% of the time and they occasionally do 30 day challenges. Works for them. To each their own!
  • lighteningjeanne855
    lighteningjeanne855 Posts: 566 Member
    Eating grains, rice, potatoes, and beans gave me the urge to stuff myself,
    and then I'd have to nap because my blood glucose would go 'through the roof'.
    Eating the Primal way (Paleo+Dairy) has helped me to lose 50 pounds
    without hunger or cravings.
    I suggest you go read around Atkins.com for how to 'ease into'
    the High Fat/Low Carb lifestyle. There IS an adjustment period.
    Some other places to browse are:
    marksdailyapple.com
    paleohacks.com
    dietdoctor.com

    Best wishes!
  • KoopaSix
    KoopaSix Posts: 252 Member
    Paleo diet is CRAP..the fact that crossfitters use it is CRAP. Contrary to popular belief your body's prefered source of energy are carbohydrates. Without them your muscles will appear flat due glycogen depletion and you will feel like crap. I cut from 221lbs to 164lb last year on a moderate carb diet, then bulked to 196lbs on a high carb diet and have never had any issues. I'm no different then anyone else. SELF CONTROL will get you to where you want to be. Hell I've been having fruity pebbles and poptarts while dieting and still burning fat. Why? Because I have self control and stay under my caloric intake....it's pretty simple

    At the end of the day its:

    Calories in vs Calories out
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    eh ..not for me ..I like my grains, dairy, etc too much and I do not believe in restricting foods..

    and if you can really figure out what the diet of "paleolithic man" was then more power to you and for it….

    I find the 80/20 rule to be better..80% healthy, 20% whatever I want = ice cream, cookies, cake, etc...
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    Paleo diet is CRAP..the fact that crossfitters use it is CRAP. Contrary to popular belief your body's prefered source of energy are carbohydrates. Without them your muscles will appear flat due glycogen depletion and you will feel like crap. I cut from 221lbs to 164lb last year on a moderate carb diet, then bulked to 196lbs on a high carb diet and have never had any issues. I'm no different then anyone else. SELF CONTROL will get you to where you want to be. Hell I've been having fruity pebbles and poptarts while dieting and still burning fat. Why? Because I have self control and stay under my caloric intake....it's pretty simple

    At the end of the day its:

    Calories in vs Calories out

    how dare you inject basic logic and self control into this debate!!
  • KoopaSix
    KoopaSix Posts: 252 Member
    Paleo diet is CRAP..the fact that crossfitters use it is CRAP. Contrary to popular belief your body's prefered source of energy are carbohydrates. Without them your muscles will appear flat due glycogen depletion and you will feel like crap. I cut from 221lbs to 164lb last year on a moderate carb diet, then bulked to 196lbs on a high carb diet and have never had any issues. I'm no different then anyone else. SELF CONTROL will get you to where you want to be. Hell I've been having fruity pebbles and poptarts while dieting and still burning fat. Why? Because I have self control and stay under my caloric intake....it's pretty simple

    At the end of the day its:

    Calories in vs Calories out

    how dare you inject basic logic and self control into this debate!!

    I know right!..I should just unnecessarily deprive my body of a macronutrient that, although non-essential, my body being human and all......prefers for energy. Carbs=Glucose, Glucose=full muscles and energy. But hey what do I know..shrug

    People are so blinded by these gimmicks and don't realize the answer is right under there nose..a caloric deficit and SELF CONTROL...oh well, what can you do..
  • KoopaSix
    KoopaSix Posts: 252 Member
    If there's no medical reason to do so (doctor's orders), I would skip it. Your plan should be sustainable for life. Why make things harder?

    Wish there was a "like" button..
  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
    Paleo diet is CRAP..the fact that crossfitters use it is CRAP. Contrary to popular belief your body's prefered source of energy are carbohydrates. Without them your muscles will appear flat due glycogen depletion and you will feel like crap. I cut from 221lbs to 164lb last year on a moderate carb diet, then bulked to 196lbs on a high carb diet and have never had any issues. I'm no different then anyone else. SELF CONTROL will get you to where you want to be. Hell I've been having fruity pebbles and poptarts while dieting and still burning fat. Why? Because I have self control and stay under my caloric intake....it's pretty simple

    At the end of the day its:

    Calories in vs Calories out

    how dare you inject basic logic and self control into this debate!!

    I know right!..I should just unnecessarily deprive my body of a macronutrient that, although non-essential, my body being human and all......prefers for energy. Carbs=Glucose, Glucose=full muscles and energy. But hey what do I know..shrug

    People are so blinded by these gimmicks and don't realize the answer is right under there nose..a caloric deficit and SELF CONTROL...oh well, what can you do..

    First off congrats on the weight loss dude.

    Nobody that I know of eating Low carb / High Fat believes that you CANNOT lose weight eating a high carb diet, if you're eating a calorie deficit! Not sure why on these threads that point keeps coming up.

    And as long as you are getting enough protein in your diet you will retain most of your lean mass (and therefore your lean mass percentage will increase as you lose body fat).

    I personally advocate any diet that works for the person doing it - as long as it works for them and the sacrifice they are making they can comfortably live with (but maybe I'm a bit broader minded than some?).

    If you are eating a medium to high carb diet, then yes your body will be relying on a steady income of carbs for fuel (no-one is disputing that). I would question why the body can only store a limited amount of glucose though and requires frequent topping up if we have evolved over a few million years to burn glucose as our main fuel.

    If you are eating a low carb diet then your body becomes efficient at using stored body fat and dietary fat as fuel and utilises your glycogen stores for essential brain and organ function and to fuel the muscle in high activity expenditure (activity over approx. 75% effort).

    Not sure how reducing your intake of carbs (I typically eat 100 - 130g) is depriving your body of a macronutrient? Paleo (and similar styles) choose to reduce or cut certain food types - due to their nutrient deficiency - compared to alternatives.

    The reason people eating low carb / high fat (this style of diet has been around for over a century - so is probably beyond the fad stage) is to reduce their intake of simple processed carbs, grains, starches and trans fats because they like to reduce their risks of inflammation and oxidation that some of these food types can promote with in the body.

    Also reducing or cutting things like grain reduce the un-fermentable and insoluble fiber they eat, and they therefore focus on eating carbs with a higher fermentable and soluble fiber content.

    The paleo style diets IMHO offer some people (who are looking for it) a healthier way of consuming their macro and micro nutrients.

    Just like with exercise - all exercise will burn calories, but they're not all as effective as each other.

    So to say something is CRAP without proper understanding is a bit well - it's a bit.

    I agree that the names Paleo and Primal are a bit lame. But at the end of the day there buzz words (there's plenty of things named incorrectly out there - you can't facepalm at them all).

    It should be called the low carb, medium protein, high fat diet - but that's probably not as marketable.
  • tedrickp
    tedrickp Posts: 1,229 Member
    What do you think of this diet? I love my grains so I don't think it's for me .

    You answered your own question - if you love grains then there is no good reason to do the paleo diet.

    The only good reason to do the paleo diet is if it helps you sustain your caloric deficit because you prefer to eat the types of food that it promotes.
  • Barbell_
    Barbell_ Posts: 1
    I feel, look and lift better without grains/legumes in my diet otherwise I have serious bloating issues to the point where it hurts like hell.

    But I don't think it's necessary to lose weight :)
  • tedrickp
    tedrickp Posts: 1,229 Member
    This isn't ideal because it is the slides from a talk, but it is still very well referenced and makes a lot of great points about Paleo...

    http://www.nsca.com/uploadedFiles/NSCA/Inactive_Content/Program_Books/PTC_2013_Program_Book/Aragon.pdf

    It even touches on a couple issues that the poster above mentioned about inflammation and oxidation.

    I am not anti paleo - I believe in honoring personal preference - so whatever diet works for you but you might want to check out the above PDF to get a more balanced look at the science behind paleo claims.
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
    IN for lindsey and tennisdude vs. the world, b/c you know that's inevitable.

    OP, Paleo diet is not something that would work for me. I love cookies, cake, bread, candy, pasta, and processed meats too much.
  • chelso0o
    chelso0o Posts: 366 Member
    I incorporate some paleo recipes into my daily meal planning because they have a good way of preparing dishes with more veggies. Otherwise, I do the self control method and severely limiting processed carbs.
  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
    This isn't ideal because it is the slides from a talk, but it is still very well referenced and makes a lot of great points about Paleo...

    http://www.nsca.com/uploadedFiles/NSCA/Inactive_Content/Program_Books/PTC_2013_Program_Book/Aragon.pdf

    It even touches on a couple issues that the poster above mentioned about inflammation and oxidation.

    I am not anti paleo - I believe in honoring personal preference - so whatever diet works for you but you might want to check out the above PDF to get a more balanced look at the science behind paleo claims.

    Hi

    The link is coming up with page not found - do you have another link to it - or some key words I can punch into google.

    Cheers,
  • neandermagnon
    neandermagnon Posts: 7,436 Member
    IN for lindsey and tennisdude vs. the world, b/c you know that's inevitable.

    OP, Paleo diet is not something that would work for me. I love cookies, cake, bread, candy, pasta, and processed meats too much.

    in for neandermagnon telling everyone what palaeolithic people *really* ate





    wait... what...???


    http://cavepeopleandstuff.wordpress.com/tag/paleo-diet-humor/
  • Holly_Roman_Empire
    Holly_Roman_Empire Posts: 4,440 Member
    IN for lindsey and tennisdude vs. the world, b/c you know that's inevitable.

    OP, Paleo diet is not something that would work for me. I love cookies, cake, bread, candy, pasta, and processed meats too much.

    in for neandermagnon telling everyone what palaeolithic people *really* ate





    wait... what...???


    http://cavepeopleandstuff.wordpress.com/tag/paleo-diet-humor/

    Ugh, my apologies. Your insight into this is one of my favorites. :flowerforyou:
  • neandermagnon
    neandermagnon Posts: 7,436 Member
    IN for lindsey and tennisdude vs. the world, b/c you know that's inevitable.

    OP, Paleo diet is not something that would work for me. I love cookies, cake, bread, candy, pasta, and processed meats too much.

    in for neandermagnon telling everyone what palaeolithic people *really* ate





    wait... what...???


    http://cavepeopleandstuff.wordpress.com/tag/paleo-diet-humor/

    Ugh, my apologies. Your insight into this is one of my favorites. :flowerforyou:

    don't apologise, you didn't do anything bad :flowerforyou:

    glad you like my posts :smile: