Anyone 80/10/10?

I am starting 80/10/10 Raw Vegan.
I crash every time I try to "diet" after losing a few pounds.
Lately I have been drinking a ton and eating a lot of terrible food, but I can't take it anymore.
I feel disgusted and ready to change.
Any other 80/10/10 People here want to be friends?

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  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,226 Member
    Hopefully you won't crash and burn with this diet. Get your feed bag on, there's lots of eating in that diet, and I'd suggest talking to your primary care giver about any deficiencies that will come up. good luck.
  • That is the thing tho, I eat constantly. I am a stay at home mom and I constantly snack, so a diet that allows me to eat constantly would be perfect. I hope to transfer over to a regular vegan diet when I am ready, but for now 80/10/10 seems like what will work for me. Also, I looooove fruit and hate limiting sweets. Never been a big meat eater, unless it is fried or covered in bbq. Being able to eat an entire watermelon or pineapple is very appealing to me.
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,226 Member
    Who knows you may adhere to it better than other diets, and I hope you do. Personally never cooking or BBQing and eating mostly plants would be a death sentence for me and make sure there's no adverse effects with the little protein and fat in your diet.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    so by eliminating all food and just eating raw vegan is going to lead to long term success?

    I would suggest learning portion control, eat in a deficit, and continue to eat the foods you want, but that is just me .02….

    Good luck with this ..

    you should search out Ernie he is all about this kind of diet...
  • LolBroScience
    LolBroScience Posts: 4,537 Member
    I'm sorry to hear.
  • Erinelda
    Erinelda Posts: 96
    That's the diet I want to be on but I can't afford it. I would rather gorge myself with fruit and veggies than have tiny meals to reduce calories. Every time I have a mini portion of something I feel sad. I had a 'plate' of pasta today and it was almost in a single layer across the plate xD
  • so by eliminating all food and just eating raw vegan is going to lead to long term success?

    I would suggest learning portion control, eat in a deficit, and continue to eat the foods you want, but that is just me .02….

    Good luck with this ..

    you should search out Ernie he is all about this kind of diet...

    Thank you
  • That's the diet I want to be on but I can't afford it. I would rather gorge myself with fruit and veggies than have tiny meals to reduce calories. Every time I have a mini portion of something I feel sad. I had a 'plate' of pasta today and it was almost in a single layer across the plate xD
    You are sweet and so supportive. I am glad we are friends.
  • 053069
    053069 Posts: 52 Member
    momtastic, I think you don't want enough to loose weight. I can be anytime a shoulder you can cry on, and say I feel sorry for you but that will not help, because the real deal is you. All starts with you and your goal. Deal with what you have, be happy that you're not one that has to loose 150lbs (I hope...), look on the bright side of your goal. YOU CAN DO IT !!!! :flowerforyou:

    little things about me: been pregnant two times, every time gained 60lbs and lost all on both occurrences. after few good years i found myself with about 15lbs over the weight i feel comfortable. It is not easy when you are close to 45 to loose that much, but i go every night spinning at 8:30pm, 6 days a week, I work 9 hrs program everyday, make dinner...etc...

    Trust me, if you want it you can have it !!!!
  • LKArgh
    LKArgh Posts: 5,178 Member
    I wish I could tell you that this will work, but I do not know what the point would be. Do you want reassuring comments and no results, or realistic feedback and losing weight?
    Based on your diary today, you ate (or plan to eat?) 14 bananas! Yesterday you ate 16 bananas. Other than gaining weight and getting hospitalised or dropping dead from hyperkalemia, I cannot even imagine what else the result can be. This is not vegan, this is clueless about balanced diet, ignorign your body's needs and acting like a crazy woman.
    Before this, your diary shows days of starving and insane amounts of burned calories (which to be honest, I highly doubt you, or anyone else who is not a prefessional athlete, can burn in a day) and days of missing logging, which based on your lack of results are I assume days of eating everything in sight and the kitchen sink.
    Stop, and reevaluate how you feel about food. If food is going to be an obsession and you cannot make realistic lifestyle changes, be resigned to being overweight and at least find some balance in what you eat that will minimise further health issues. Being obsessed with food and going crazy with weird eating patterns, it never results to a healthy weight loss,it ends in health issues. Your "healhty" lifestyle changes these last 2-3 days, is more dangerous than eating at McDonald's every day.

    I know you do not want to hear this, but I do not think you need encouragement to this craziness, not when you are young, and with young kids who need you to be healthy.
    Step away from the scale and this site, and figure out why you feel this way. If you blame staying at home and are not happy as a stay at home mother, make plans to change the situation. Find a part time job, go to full time working, get a hobby, find classes for you and your kids, get a part time sitter and go to the gym, whatever. If you do not know what is going on and feel as desperate as your diary indicates, invest into a therapist and/or a dietician. But you are not on the right track, sorry, and it would very irresponsible for anyone to encourage you to continue.
  • fitness_faeiry
    fitness_faeiry Posts: 354 Member
    Don't tell me...you've been influenced by Freelea the Banana Girl.

    She is bloody Bananas, I think all that potassium has gone to her head.

    Good Luck though.
  • sarrah_n
    sarrah_n Posts: 192 Member
    I truly hope this works for you to get to your goal but I am a little concerned about the long-term success of the plan. Stick to it and keep those status updates coming!
  • Rocbola
    Rocbola Posts: 1,998 Member
    I totally support 80/10/10, but i should emphasize that it's about overall healthy living, and not really for just weight loss. If you want to do it, make a commitment and do it right. Get the book by Dr. Douglas Graham. There are free copies online if you google it; i started reading it online before i ever bought my copy.

    If you choose that path, i totally support you in it, feel free to friend me. I think eating a diet loaded with fresh fruits and vegetables makes you feel amazing and very energized.
  • _Josee_
    _Josee_ Posts: 625 Member
    so by eliminating all food and just eating raw vegan is going to lead to long term success?

    I would suggest learning portion control, eat in a deficit, and continue to eat the foods you want, but that is just me .02….

    Good luck with this ..

    you should search out Ernie he is all about this kind of diet...

    Yup... I'm sure you'll be very successful this time around. Sounds like something totally sustainable for the rest of your life!
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    I am starting 80/10/10 Raw Vegan.
    I crash every time I try to "diet" after losing a few pounds.
    Lately I have been drinking a ton and eating a lot of terrible food, but I can't take it anymore.
    I feel disgusted and ready to change.
    Any other 80/10/10 People here want to be friends?

    if you are having a hard time sustaining- you have your answer right there.

    It isn't sustainable way of life for you and you need to find what works- this isn't working- time to make adjustments and move on.

    There is no RIGHT way to do this- it's finding what works for you. Everyone goes to 80/10/10 or 40/30/30- but if you wanted to you could do 33.33/33.33/33.33. Find what works for you- but forcing yourself into a food hell that is causing you to crash and burn is clearly not the way.

    adjust and move on- it's not a sign of failure- more data for you.
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    That is the thing tho, I eat constantly. I am a stay at home mom and I constantly snack, so a diet that allows me to eat constantly would be perfect. I hope to transfer over to a regular vegan diet when I am ready, but for now 80/10/10 seems like what will work for me. Also, I looooove fruit and hate limiting sweets. Never been a big meat eater, unless it is fried or covered in bbq. Being able to eat an entire watermelon or pineapple is very appealing to me.

    For women the 80/10/10 approach is horrible for hormone balance and functionality.

    I did a raw vegan diet for 6 weeks of lent a couple of years ago and I threw my whole body off in a very short amount of time.

    I read and researched...................there is NO possible way to get sufficient protein and fat intake with this way of eating.
  • Rocbola
    Rocbola Posts: 1,998 Member
    I read and researched...................there is NO possible way to get sufficient protein and fat intake with this way of eating.
    If this were true, then people who have been eating this way for years would not be able to run 153 mile ultra-marathons.
    Google "Michael Arnstein"
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    I read and researched...................there is NO possible way to get sufficient protein and fat intake with this way of eating.
    If this were true, then people who have been eating this way for years would not be able to run 153 mile ultra-marathons.
    Google "Michael Arnstein"

    My Dr was going to hospitalize me after eating this way for a mere 6 weeks.

    People like him eat other things behind closed doors and appeal to those like yourself in public for their image. They are closet eaters.
  • Rocbola
    Rocbola Posts: 1,998 Member
    Haha sure they do
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    Haha sure they do

    Most of them do. I know quite a few people that call themselves vegan and they do so behind closed doors and then personify some FAKE public notion of what their lifestyle really is.

    That is why there are so many Dr's against the vegan lifestyle. It is NOT healthy. Look at Steve Jobs and his fruititarian way of eating. It killed him faster then he had to go because the cancer just fed on all that sugar he was eating.

    Your advocating something that is not for optimal health.

    I, myself, don't eat packaged foods, but I will support someone that tries to eat as good as they can on the SAD diet before I will ever support this way of life that literally sucks the life out of people.
  • jim180155
    jim180155 Posts: 769 Member
    I read and researched...................there is NO possible way to get sufficient protein and fat intake with this way of eating.
    If this were true, then people who have been eating this way for years would not be able to run 153 mile ultra-marathons.
    Google "Michael Arnstein"

    My Dr was going to hospitalize me after eating this way for a mere 6 weeks.

    People like him eat other things behind closed doors and appeal to those like yourself in public for their image. They are closet eaters.

    So anybody who thrives on a different diet is a liar? Nice system you have there.
  • LKArgh
    LKArgh Posts: 5,178 Member
    Raw vegan is not 1500 calories per day from bananas, more bananas, then all sprinkled with kale and roasted peanuts on top.
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    I read and researched...................there is NO possible way to get sufficient protein and fat intake with this way of eating.
    If this were true, then people who have been eating this way for years would not be able to run 153 mile ultra-marathons.
    Google "Michael Arnstein"

    My Dr was going to hospitalize me after eating this way for a mere 6 weeks.

    People like him eat other things behind closed doors and appeal to those like yourself in public for their image. They are closet eaters.

    So anybody who thrives on a different diet is a liar? Nice system you have there.

    That is not what I said. I said it is a known fact that many vegans who claim to be 100% vegan, in fact ARE NOT 100% vegan.

    There are plenty of former vegans that tell this tale in their blogs, I know quite a few in real life and my Dr has told me plenty of information where this is concerned.

    Most of them eat meat, eggs or dairy products behind closed doors. Their friends wonder why they look healthier than themselves and this is the reason why.

    Most long term vegans that go back to openly eating animal products tell their stories about how their health suffered tremendously and I believe them.

    The human body is not going to function properly on 10% fat and 10% protein. Its just not possible or plausible. People *THINK* they are eating healthy when in fact they are not.

    I am done with this conversation as I am talking to closed doors and minds here.


    OP research this very well before embarking on this journey. You can end up screwing up your hormones and other body functions for a long time eating this way. I am speaking from personal experience.
  • dietenv
    dietenv Posts: 21 Member
    I personally don't think there is anything wrong with a vegan diet. However, only eating fruit is not a vegan diet. At all. Try the clean eating/whole foods diet and get a variety of beans, fruit, vegetables, nuts, seeds, whole grains, and lean PROTEIN. You need a variety of all these foods daily. My macros on this diet are 40/20/40 (C/F/P).

    Good luck!
  • jim180155
    jim180155 Posts: 769 Member
    I personally don't think there is anything wrong with a vegan diet. However, only eating fruit is not a vegan diet. At all. Try the clean eating/whole foods diet and get a variety of beans, fruit, vegetables, nuts, seeds, whole grains, and lean PROTEIN. You need a variety of all these foods daily. My macros on this diet are 40/20/40 (C/F/P).

    Good luck!

    This sounds like a much more reasonable plan.
  • jsissom86
    jsissom86 Posts: 47 Member
    Don't tell me...you've been influenced by Freelea the Banana Girl.

    She is bloody Bananas, I think all that potassium has gone to her head.

    Good Luck though.

    She is also void of any illnesses or fat. Sooo....I think she's a GENIUS!
  • weightliftingdiva
    weightliftingdiva Posts: 522 Member
    Don't tell me...you've been influenced by Freelea the Banana Girl.

    She is bloody Bananas, I think all that potassium has gone to her head.

    Good Luck though.

    She is also void of any illnesses or fat. Sooo....I think she's a GENIUS!

    She isn't free of fat. Everyone has body fat. Or you would die.

    Go over to the MFP success stories. There are many people who have cured their obesity-related diseases and lost body fat by eating a variety of sustainable non-vegan diets. A vegan diet is not necessary for health or weight loss.