Bulk

KoopaSix

That's a really clean whey isolate. Nonetheless, I'd drop it down to 1 scoop pre/1 post. What I do is have 1 scoop pre (I make a chocolate milk with it adding water) then add it to a serving of shredded wheat as my pre workout. It's almost the best protein/complex carb ratio I've been able to find for a pre workout meal.

Post workout I'll have a mix of simple/complex carbs with 1 scoop whey, 1 serving of fruity pebbles & 1 serving of rolled oats (It's amazing and a great mix of simple/complex carbs for post workout nutrition) OR 1 scoop/water and throw in a pop tart or 2. You could also add some dextrose post workout, it's entirely up to you. I find I look better/grow more when I have simple carbs immediately post workout.

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waldo56

I've gained 3.6 pounds in 11 weeks (~.33) pounds per week. Averaged 2530 calories over that time. Good pace for my bulk?

You likely could more than double that pace without a serious impact to muscle:fat gain ratio.

0.33 lb for week is overly slow, especially for a dude.

waldo56

At first, I was really underestimating my strength training routine, and also, trying to eat way to lean and clean, and it wasn't working.

It seems everyone makes this mistake.

No matter how much it is repeated, people just don't believe it.

I say this as I faffed about for months at slightly above maintainance, trying to go for a lean bulk or 'recomp' to have no difference in body shape and stalling out on my lifts.

Or they do this, which likewise doesn't work.

waldo56

Gainins 2 pounds per month is optimal. Doing it like that you will gain more leans muscle mass than fat! Good job anyways!

No, that's on the slow side.

There will always be fat gain; 2 lbs/mo will lead to suboptimal muscle gain with very little improvement in muscle to fat ratio.

3-3.5 lb/mo is much more optimal. With that you'll be hitting near your peak muscle gain rate, and the fat gain will be small enough to be near invisible and easily dealt with.