Hands keep slipping with deadlifts...grrr
lamps1303
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I've started doing compound lifts to make the most out of my workouts. I also use free weights (I don't use the machines) so I purchased a pair of lifting gloves for grip and wrist support. The gloves seem to be fine with every exercise but when I do deadlifts, particularly when I start adding weight to the 20kg bar my fingers slip so I can't do more than about 8reps, reducing to about 3 on my final set. It's really frustrating as my body is able to lift more weight and more reps but my damn fingers are stopping me!! Any tips? My gym does provide chalk but a lot of the time they have run out so that isn't really an option.
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Personally I don't think gloves are a good idea!
Chalk - Normal or liquid chalk helps a lot with grip, this would be my number one extra for deadlifts
Straps - While doing higher reps on deadlifts your grip can go a lot quicker than when you hit failure. Straps will help you keep a hold of the bar for longer
Mixed grip - I prefer this for heavier sets (1-3 reps) you have one hand as normal and the other hand turned away from you going under the bar. It's much easier to keep a hold of the bar but straps for higher reps is definately my preffered method0 -
Use straps. Ask a trainer how to get started. Basically, you slide your hand through a loop, then wrap the strap around the bar, and hold the end with the bar. The other option is to use hooks, which are attached to a strap. I like the straps. You might also work on some grip-strengthening exercises. Part of the challenge when lifting free weights is the grip. Keep up the good work!0
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Try to grip the bar with one overhand and one underhand grip simutaneously. Just alternate your grips between sets. When lifting heavy the bar may seem to want to roll out of your fingers but when your hands are gripping in opposing directions it creates a bit more stability eliminating that roll out effect.0
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Thanks for the advice. Will definitely look into straps. Do they also provide wrist support?
My issue is definitely with the feeling of the bar rolling out of my hands (largely due to the fact my hands get sweaty - sorry if that's TMI!) so will try the alternative grip. Back in the gym Wednesday so will let you know how I get on0 -
Chalk is great and mixed grip, as others have mentioned.
You can work on your grip by doing farmers walks. Grab a heavy dumbbell in each hand and walk from one end of the gym to the other and then back again. Keep working on carrying heavier weights and your grip will get much stronger.
Edited for poor typing skills on my phone.0 -
Mine did the same thing when starting off doing deads, i just switched to an overhand underhand grip like a few people have suggested and eventually my forearms built up enough strength for it not to be an issue anymore.0
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Thanks for the advice. Will definitely look into straps. Do they also provide wrist support?
My issue is definitely with the feeling of the bar rolling out of my hands (largely due to the fact my hands get sweaty - sorry if that's TMI!) so will try the alternative grip. Back in the gym Wednesday so will let you know how I get on
No they don't provide support. But your own chalk. It cost 1.79 a block and will last a year. Also use a mix grip.0 -
Purchase wrist wraps for wrist support, not gloves.
Use chalk. I'm one of the few for whom gloves (ridiculously tight ones) don't seem to interfere with grip, but I rarely use them anymore because I'm finally at a gym that allows chalk.
Make sure the bar is low (on the fingers), not in the palm of your hand as the bar will end up there anyway and the momentum of that bar movement can break your grip.
Dumbbell rows and farmer's walks will definitely help with your grip strength.0 -
Personally I don't think gloves are a good idea!
Chalk - Normal or liquid chalk helps a lot with grip, this would be my number one extra for deadlifts
Straps - While doing higher reps on deadlifts your grip can go a lot quicker than when you hit failure. Straps will help you keep a hold of the bar for longer
Mixed grip - I prefer this for heavier sets (1-3 reps) you have one hand as normal and the other hand turned away from you going under the bar. It's much easier to keep a hold of the bar but straps for higher reps is definately my preffered method
I was thinking this but without the straps….
Ditch the gloves…
I once had a pretty bad callus so I got some gloves to help cover it up and my grip went to hell in a hand basket….
I do not use gloves and now take pride in my callus's...0 -
Gloves are bad for grip, especially once you start getting to heavy weight. I use liquid chalk through all deadlift sets and mixed grip for near-maximal weightxreps0
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I use gloves with a wrist wrap incorporated and also use straps with them. I still end up bruising my wrists with the straps (i lift very heavy).0
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also, you might consider working on your grip strength...
Farmers carries, dead hangs, pinching plates, or even simply just holding the loaded bar as long as possible.0 -
other then what is already been said, make sure you are not palming the bar with your grip. Wrap your hands around the bar so it rests closer to your fingers. It might feel strange the first couple of times and you might thing you are going to drop it... but keep at it.0
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It sounds like your issue is mainly stemming from using a double overhand grip. As the weight gets heavier, the bar is more apt to roll out of your hands. A mixed grip will help a lot with that. As a next resort, I would use chalk to keep your hands dry. Then straps. I would not resort to gloves because it does screw with your grip, and if you're doing high volume, it could really tear up your hands. Iron rubbing against the gloves rubbing against your hands is even worse than just iron against your hands.0
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mmm gloves are bad mmmkkayyyy.
Seriously though...
Mixed Grip
Chalk
Double Overhand Hook Grip (if you can tolerate the pain)
Grip strengthening exercises - Barbell holds, farmers walks with dumbbells or trap bar etc, plate holds.0 -
Personally I don't think gloves are a good idea!
1.) Mixed grip - I prefer this for heavier sets (1-3 reps) you have one hand as normal and the other hand turned away from you going under the bar. It's much easier to keep a hold of the bar but straps for higher reps is definately my preffered method
2.) Chalk - Normal or liquid chalk helps a lot with grip, this would be my number one extra for deadlifts
3.) Straps - While doing higher reps on deadlifts your grip can go a lot quicker than when you hit failure. Straps will help you keep a hold of the bar for longer
this- only I edited for order of progression. Straps should be a last resort.
Also add grip strength to your training.0 -
Use straps. Ask a trainer how to get started. Basically, you slide your hand through a loop, then wrap the strap around the bar, and hold the end with the bar. The other option is to use hooks, which are attached to a strap. I like the straps. You might also work on some grip-strengthening exercises. Part of the challenge when lifting free weights is the grip. Keep up the good work!
OP, don't wear straps. Just focus on grip strength. I doubt you are lifting a massive amount of weight so you probably don't even need chalk or an over/under grip yet. A towel to keep your hands dry if you sweat a lot might be helpful but just hold the bar with no gloves and a double overhand grip. Squeeze the bar hard like you're trying to crush it in your hands. Your hands will grow stronger very quickly.0 -
Use straps. Ask a trainer how to get started. Basically, you slide your hand through a loop, then wrap the strap around the bar, and hold the end with the bar. The other option is to use hooks, which are attached to a strap. I like the straps. You might also work on some grip-strengthening exercises. Part of the challenge when lifting free weights is the grip. Keep up the good work!
OP, don't wear straps. Just focus on grip strength. I doubt you are lifting a massive amount of weight so you probably don't even need chalk or an over/under grip yet. A towel to keep your hands dry if you sweat a lot might be helpful but just hold the bar with no gloves and a double overhand grip. Squeeze the bar hard like you're trying to crush it in your hands. Your hands will grow stronger very quickly.
Thanks for the advice - I did just read that straps, whilst helping with grip, do not help with grip strength as the wrists take a lot of the flack. Going to play around with grip positions and will definitely start exercises to strengthen my grip, which is something I have always struggled with.0 -
Straps + mixed grip. Be careful using straps with a standard overhand grip as the bar can 'unwind' out of the straps.0
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1. Ditch the gloves
2. Chaulk up
3. Use alternating grip (one overhand,one underhand)
4. You don't need straps, you need to stengthen your grip by repeating steps 1-3.0 -
I don't do gloves or straps because I can't use that stuff when I compete. I do bring my own chalk and highly recommend it along with mixed grip for heavy deads & putting grip work into the mix. Farmer's walks work well plus they make me feel like a badazz.0
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Use straps. Ask a trainer how to get started. Basically, you slide your hand through a loop, then wrap the strap around the bar, and hold the end with the bar. The other option is to use hooks, which are attached to a strap. I like the straps. You might also work on some grip-strengthening exercises. Part of the challenge when lifting free weights is the grip. Keep up the good work!
OP, don't wear straps. Just focus on grip strength. I doubt you are lifting a massive amount of weight so you probably don't even need chalk or an over/under grip yet. A towel to keep your hands dry if you sweat a lot might be helpful but just hold the bar with no gloves and a double overhand grip. Squeeze the bar hard like you're trying to crush it in your hands. Your hands will grow stronger very quickly.
Thanks for the advice - I did just read that straps, whilst helping with grip, do not help with grip strength as the wrists take a lot of the flack. Going to play around with grip positions and will definitely start exercises to strengthen my grip, which is something I have always struggled with.
there are some reviews (I take with grains of salt) that I have read that said straps put a lot of strain on the wrists in a wildly unhealthy manner (these have been on sites selling grip pads- so again- grains of salt) so it's made me a little leery.
So while I will use straps for heavy lifts- when I'm shooting for PR's or I'm just obscenely sweaty- or my hands are tired from high volume- I'll go to them- but I am reserved in their use and maybe only use them every couple of months- not regularly.0 -
1: Chalk
2: Hook grip
3: If you cant take the pain, mixed grip
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In my experience gloves hurt your grip, rather than help it. Liquid chalk is the best solution I've found and, while straps work as well, I'd only resort to them when you're unable to maintain your grip even with chalk.0
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I'd like to point out that not all bar's are created equal as well.
Some of them are extremely smooth compared to others that are more like a cheese grater.
Go for the cheese grater. You'll be able to pick up more weight with a standard double over- then more weight the mixed- on those bars I find I don't even need chalk.0 -
Man... everyone hating on gloves, I've only ever lifted with gloves, my grip strength never fails... i think a lack of grip training is going to hurt you alot more then wearing gloves.0
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Gloves basically make the bar thicker to the user, as you are wrapping material between the bar and your hands. The greater the bar diameter, the more difficult it will be to grip it-- See Fat-Grips as an example of another product that utilizes this same concept. The only thing gloves are really good for is protecting your hands from bar friction. Other than that, they serve no functional purpose.
OP, in this order:
1. Chalk- there's nothing wrong with using it early and it often. Everyone gets sweaty palms, and chalk's main function is to dry them out. It doesn't directly increase grip strength, so it's not "cheating" as some folks might think.
2.Mixed Grip
3. Straps- When your mixed grip starts failing, you can use straps.
Hook grip might be good for some folks, but I have a hard time recommending it to most folks. It places the bar directly on a superficial nerve in your palm/thumb, which means it hurts, a lot. There's also the potential of damaging that nerve, which may leave your thumb completely numb indefinitely, though with no loss of function.0 -
My hands sweat like crazy! Once I discovered the mix grip (One hand over the top, one hand underneath) it helped out a lot. also you can buy a spray that makes your hands a little sticky. I also use the preset weights, and there's grips on them so it's a little easier.0
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Chalk and mixed grip should last OP for a long time. Other accessories are kinda pointless.0
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Buy your own chalk. It's like three bucks for a block.0
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