Heavy squats and dead lifts on the same day

DeadliftAddict

I'm on a upper\lower power\hypertrophy split. My program calls for 3 to 4 sets of 5 reps of squats and dead lifts on my lower power day. I've moved them to different days because after squatting I can't hit the same weight for 5 reps as I can with them on different days. I would like to move the dead lifts back to my power day so I am doing the lifts as prescribed. Do I just suck it up and lift the lesser weight or keep them on different days? What is your take?

cpusmc

Heavy squats with heavy dl's in same session has got to be a bear... can you switch power squat or power dl into the hypertrophy day? move 1 hypertrophy exercise into the power day to compensate?

starbucksbuzz

I would totally switch them out. I don't like having them on the same day.

DeadliftAddict

Heavy squats with heavy dl's in same session has got to be a bear... can you switch power squat or power dl into the hypertrophy day? move 1 hypertrophy exercise into the power day to compensate?

This has been what I have been doing. I have just been thinking of putting the deads back.

jwdieter

Yeah. I used to heavy/heavy with squat/dl. Switched also. Maybe it works better for younger guys, or as a starter program.

grantdumas7

Im doing the Texas method so I do 5x5 squats and 1x5 deads on the same day. I squat x per week and dead once.
If you do them on the same day you have to be careful with how you do it.

BusyRaeNOTBusty

If you are going for just hypertrophy I'd just lift lower weight on the same day for volume.

Leadfoot_Lewis

Deadlifts and Squats are the 2 most taxing lifts. I don't think it's a matter of "sucking it up". If doing both on the same day is hurting the progress of one or the other then yes, I'd do them on separate days

FWIW - I do not Squat and Deadlift on the same day for the reasons I stated above.

DeadliftAddict

I think I'm going to keep them separate.

JoRocka

Deadlifts and Squats are the 2 most taxing lifts. I don't think it's a matter of "sucking it up". If doing both on the same day is hurting the progress of one or the other then yes, I'd do them on separate days

FWIW - I do not Squat and Deadlift on the same day for the reasons I stated above.

indeed.

I used to Squat then DL and my DL really suffered.

It shot up after I started giving it more attention separately.

dixiewhiskey

I do mine on the same day but I'm also considering moving the deadlifts on another day because I can't seem to progress with deadlifts after doing squats. Try doing your deadlifts on a different day and see if you can make any progress then.

SezxyStef

I do mine on the same day but my program calls for it SL 5x5. Squats are done everyday...I haven't felt like my DL's have suffered...

bagge72

I do mine on the same day, I do the traditional lifting method for squats of 3 sets of 10,8,6 plus 3 warm up sets( one with no weight, one with 135, and one with 225) Then I do deadlifts after with more of a power lifting set with 4 sets of 6, 4, 2, and 1. Then I do more leg work outs and a slower jog for a couple of miles. I have to take the next day off from the gym or I want be able to walk at all the day after that haha.

jlclabo

my program calls for a heavy lower day and hypertrophy lower day. both days include squat and deadlifts. heavy days are 3x6 squat(75-80%) and 2x6(75-80%) deadlift. hypertrophy days are squat 5x8(70%) and deadlift 5x8(70%). it is rough as hell ill admit that, and yes i think my deadlifts suffer a bit on those days. i will be doing this for 6 weeks and retesting my 1RM totals for my next 6 weeks of the program.

DeadliftAddict

I do mine on the same day but my program calls for it SL 5x5. Squats are done everyday...I haven't felt like my DL's have suffered...

Don't you only do 1x5 deadlift every other week?

benchsquad65

Do more sets 3-4 is what noobs do

parkscs

I do mine on the same day but my program calls for it SL 5x5. Squats are done everyday...I haven't felt like my DL's have suffered...

Don't you only do 1x5 deadlift every other week?

It's 1x5 deadlift once on week X, 1x5 deadlift twice on week X+1, 1x5 deadlift once on week X+2, etc.

Operation_Shred

I usually will do Squats and DL on the same day once a week. I squat every other day & DL twice a week. Once pretty light for high reps & checks on form (on squat day), & one day heavy as hell.

wolfsbayne

I do mine on the same day but my program calls for it SL 5x5. Squats are done everyday...I haven't felt like my DL's have suffered...

My experience, too

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SezxyStef

I do mine on the same day but my program calls for it SL 5x5. Squats are done everyday...I haven't felt like my DL's have suffered...

Don't you only do 1x5 deadlift every other week?

It's 1x5 deadlift once on week X, 1x5 deadlift twice on week X+1, 1x5 deadlift once on week X+2, etc.

Yah this...

crystalfisher89

In my body pump class that is an hour long (bar bell endurance strength training) we do our dead lifts with our hang cling sets, but not side by side to our squat set the is the first thing we do after warm up. Because it's endurance lifting, we do 88 reps on each muscle group and so we also go a bit lighter than you would if you are heavy lifting for 8-10 reps. I guess if you are focusing on strength training as opposed to endurance strength training, I would go with what feels best to you. Personally though i'd say just do it, but maybe lessen the weight. Let your body guide you toward what you should or shouldn't lift in regards to weight.

parkscs

Personally I do deadlifts on my back day, although I sometimes do Romanian or SLDL's on my leg day with a lighter weight. I will typically do a number of warm-up sets and then my work sets are similar to a 5/3/1 setup (although I like to do 5, 5, 3, 3, 1, 1). If you're going to do them on the same day, you probably want to look at something like 1x5 for your deadlifts because it's such a taxing exercise. If you try going heavy on multiple sets of both deadlifts and squats in the same workout, you're likely to overdo it and/or not have enough energy to complete the workout. Put simply, there's a reason why popular programs such as 5x5 and SS use 1x5 deadlifts.

Ultimately though there is no right answer, but don't feel like you're "doing it wrong" if you break them out into separate days.

MagnumBurrito

I sq/dl on the same day with a 20-30 minute break of an upperbody-only lift in between. I low bar squat, so that kind of saves my quads for deadlifts. If I high bar or front squat, I won't do them on the same day.

spicegeek

I alternate weeks - heavy squats with dynamic dead lifts and then dynamic squats with heavy dead lifts - even then they are on different days.

On saying that I am not huge fan of these programs that have you do a gazzillion exercises - I squat, dead and do some kind of push ( chest press/ push up / bench press ) , some kind of pull/ row - some kind of press - usually kettle bell clean and press , planks and dymaic work with kettle bells - snatches , cleans etc. That gets spread over 3 days - the heavy lifts have some kind of short cardio in there like 1 min jump rope or a a sprint or ball slams - but really each day has one major lift

_benjammin

I do MADCOW, squatting 3X a week and DL on the second workout of the week. Squats are lower volume and lower intensity on DL day.

TR0berts

my program calls for a heavy lower day and hypertrophy lower day. both days include squat and deadlifts. heavy days are 3x6 squat(75-80%) and 2x6(75-80%) deadlift. hypertrophy days are squat 5x8(70%) and deadlift 5x8(70%). it is rough as hell ill admit that, and yes i think my deadlifts suffer a bit on those days. i will be doing this for 6 weeks and retesting my 1RM totals for my next 6 weeks of the program.

Candido's linear program?

DeadliftAddict

Getting some interesting ways people are doing this. I'm thinking i'm going to keep them separate. 3-4 sets of heavy squats for 5 reps followed by 3-4 sets of heavy deads for 5 reps is killing my dead lift numbers. As you can see from my name. I can't be hurting my dead lift gains.

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