How “Clean Eating” Made Me Fat-Article

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  • TheGymGypsy
    TheGymGypsy Posts: 1,023 Member
    Aren't you the same guy who posted the "cardio makes you fat" thread?
  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
    Aren't you the same guy who posted the "cardio makes you fat" thread?
    Yep
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    I don't see that it's much different than other "it's not my fault I got fat" articles. Choosing to believe unrealistic claims of 'eat all you want an still lose weight' is just as ridiculous no matter what diet you follow or what supplements you take.
  • I think this was a great article. This is why "diets" often fail. Losing weight isn't typically a matter of eliminating or adding certain foods, it is controlling the amounts of food while still getting the correct nutrients. It's difficult and has to be a matter of lifestyle, not something you do for a certain period of time and expect to maintain whatever progress you've made once you stop.
  • jkwolly
    jkwolly Posts: 3,049 Member
    I don't see that it's much different than other "it's not my fault I got fat" articles. Choosing to believe unrealistic claims of 'eat all you want an still lose weight' is just as ridiculous no matter what diet you follow or what supplements you take.
    This!
  • SezxyStef
    SezxyStef Posts: 15,267 Member
    so in
  • LolBroScience
    LolBroScience Posts: 4,537 Member
    Aren't you the same guy who posted the "cardio makes you fat" thread?

    I assume you didn't read the article?
  • Achrya
    Achrya Posts: 16,913 Member
    Aren't you the same guy who posted the "cardio makes you fat" thread?

    Eric posts a wealth of interesting things.

    The cardio makes you fat thread was, however, particularly awesome with all the panties it twisted. Especially since I'd guess 75% of people didn't read it.
  • LolBroScience
    LolBroScience Posts: 4,537 Member
    Aren't you the same guy who posted the "cardio makes you fat" thread?

    Eric posts a wealth of interesting things.

    The cardio makes you fat thread was, however, particularly awesome with all the panties it twisted. Especially since I'd guess 75% of people didn't read it.

    As will more than likely occur with this :)
  • geebusuk
    geebusuk Posts: 3,348 Member
    Nice :).
  • ValGogo
    ValGogo Posts: 2,168 Member
    If Eric is the guy in the picture, I'm going to read the article cuz he looks like he's doing it right.
  • a_stronger_me13
    a_stronger_me13 Posts: 812 Member
    In for butthurt and eventual IIFYM vs. clean eating debate.

    Thank you for sharing, OP! Excellent read.
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    Great read. Hopefully people make it all the way to the part where he still mostly eats lean protein and veggies and eats other foods he enjoys in moderate amounts. I have a feeling there will be lots of people going crazy just based on the title of the article. Also, goes to show that intuitive eating does not work for everyone.

    And in for the craziness.
  • thatjosiegirl
    thatjosiegirl Posts: 362 Member
    I don't see that it's much different than other "it's not my fault I got fat" articles. Choosing to believe unrealistic claims of 'eat all you want an still lose weight' is just as ridiculous no matter what diet you follow or what supplements you take.

    +100
  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
    Aren't you the same guy who posted the "cardio makes you fat" thread?

    Eric posts a wealth of interesting things.

    The cardio makes you fat thread was, however, particularly awesome with all the panties it twisted. Especially since I'd guess 75% of people didn't read it.
    If I really wanted to tick people off I would post a link to the T-Nation article that came out today called "The Jogging Delusion".
  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
    I don't see that it's much different than other "it's not my fault I got fat" articles. Choosing to believe unrealistic claims of 'eat all you want an still lose weight' is just as ridiculous no matter what diet you follow or what supplements you take.
    Where in the article does he say "eat all you want and still lose weight". He eats what he wants within his calorie and macro goals.
  • EmoJew
    EmoJew Posts: 94 Member
    Aren't you the same guy who posted the "cardio makes you fat" thread?

    Eric posts a wealth of interesting things.

    The cardio makes you fat thread was, however, particularly awesome with all the panties it twisted. Especially since I'd guess 75% of people didn't read it.
    If I really wanted to tick people off I would post a link to the T-Nation article that came out today called "The Jogging Delusion".

    I enjoyed that one today. And infact the one you linkied also.
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    I don't see that it's much different than other "it's not my fault I got fat" articles. Choosing to believe unrealistic claims of 'eat all you want an still lose weight' is just as ridiculous no matter what diet you follow or what supplements you take.
    Where in the article does he say "eat all you want and still lose weight". He eats what he wants within his calorie and macro goals.
    I think she was referring to how he ate back when he was on the paleo diet. He ate too much; he gained weight.
  • MagnumBurrito
    MagnumBurrito Posts: 1,070 Member
    For the tl:dr crowd (which I should have been in this time) - clean over eating will make you fat.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    I don't see that it's much different than other "it's not my fault I got fat" articles. Choosing to believe unrealistic claims of 'eat all you want an still lose weight' is just as ridiculous no matter what diet you follow or what supplements you take.
    Where in the article does he say "eat all you want and still lose weight". He eats what he wants within his calorie and macro goals.
    I think she was referring to how he ate back when he was on the paleo diet. He ate too much; he gained weight.

    Exactly. From the article:

    "See, because of Paleo’s lack of accounting for calories, and it’s tendency to recommend low-carb, but higher-fat food sources, my calorie intake was through the roof. As I’d not been allowed some of my favourite foods like oats, rice, cottage cheese, beans and bread, I’d compensated by filling up on more of the foods I was allowed. End result = a “healthy” diet that had made me overweight."

    I don't see how thinking you can eat unlimited amounts and lose weight as long as you follow Paleo (which is arguably not the same as "clean eating") is much different than believing you can eat all like and lose with anything else. It all shows a lack of common sense.
  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
    I don't see that it's much different than other "it's not my fault I got fat" articles. Choosing to believe unrealistic claims of 'eat all you want an still lose weight' is just as ridiculous no matter what diet you follow or what supplements you take.
    Where in the article does he say "eat all you want and still lose weight". He eats what he wants within his calorie and macro goals.
    I think she was referring to how he ate back when he was on the paleo diet. He ate too much; he gained weight.

    Exactly. From the article:

    "See, because of Paleo’s lack of accounting for calories, and it’s tendency to recommend low-carb, but higher-fat food sources, my calorie intake was through the roof. As I’d not been allowed some of my favourite foods like oats, rice, cottage cheese, beans and bread, I’d compensated by filling up on more of the foods I was allowed. End result = a “healthy” diet that had made me overweight."

    I don't see how thinking you can eat unlimited amounts and lose weight as long as you follow Paleo (which is arguably not the same as "clean eating") is much different than believing you can eat all like and lose with anything else. It all shows a lack of common sense.
    I have seen more than a few posters on this site and others claim that it is nearly impossible to get fat eating 'clean' or 'paleo'
  • random_user75
    random_user75 Posts: 157 Member
    Bump to read later.
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    I don't see that it's much different than other "it's not my fault I got fat" articles. Choosing to believe unrealistic claims of 'eat all you want an still lose weight' is just as ridiculous no matter what diet you follow or what supplements you take.
    Where in the article does he say "eat all you want and still lose weight". He eats what he wants within his calorie and macro goals.
    I think she was referring to how he ate back when he was on the paleo diet. He ate too much; he gained weight.

    Exactly. From the article:

    "See, because of Paleo’s lack of accounting for calories, and it’s tendency to recommend low-carb, but higher-fat food sources, my calorie intake was through the roof. As I’d not been allowed some of my favourite foods like oats, rice, cottage cheese, beans and bread, I’d compensated by filling up on more of the foods I was allowed. End result = a “healthy” diet that had made me overweight."

    I don't see how thinking you can eat unlimited amounts and lose weight as long as you follow Paleo (which is arguably not the same as "clean eating") is much different than believing you can eat all like and lose with anything else. It all shows a lack of common sense.
    I have seen more than a few posters on this site and others claim that it is nearly impossible to get fat eating 'clean' or 'paleo'
    Oh, I agree. And given you can eat veggies in coconut oil, almond butter (hello, meet my spoon), and all sorts of things high in calories, it wouldn't be that hard. You would have to assume you were eating mostly calorie sparse foods, but because there are no guidelines for calories or macros, you can't guarantee that. I can easily throw back a paleo approved salad that's 800 calories. If I did that for all three meals (plus snacks), I'd be way over my calorie goals.

    I think the above poster agreed with the premise of the article, but it really just seems kind of duh. I also have a feeling she hasn't seen the hundreds of other threads on MFP that completely ignore logic and promote eating as much as you want as long as it's clean. At least that's what I'm hoping. Because I living in a magical world in my head where people are logical...
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
    Great article. And the comments section of it looks just like on of MFP's clusters. LOL
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
    I don't see that it's much different than other "it's not my fault I got fat" articles. Choosing to believe unrealistic claims of 'eat all you want an still lose weight' is just as ridiculous no matter what diet you follow or what supplements you take.
    Where in the article does he say "eat all you want and still lose weight". He eats what he wants within his calorie and macro goals.
    I think she was referring to how he ate back when he was on the paleo diet. He ate too much; he gained weight.

    Exactly. From the article:

    "See, because of Paleo’s lack of accounting for calories, and it’s tendency to recommend low-carb, but higher-fat food sources, my calorie intake was through the roof. As I’d not been allowed some of my favourite foods like oats, rice, cottage cheese, beans and bread, I’d compensated by filling up on more of the foods I was allowed. End result = a “healthy” diet that had made me overweight."

    I don't see how thinking you can eat unlimited amounts and lose weight as long as you follow Paleo (which is arguably not the same as "clean eating") is much different than believing you can eat all like and lose with anything else. It all shows a lack of common sense.
    I have seen more than a few posters on this site and others claim that it is nearly impossible to get fat eating 'clean' or 'paleo'

    As have I. That does equate to clean eating making the dude in the atricle fat.
  • loubidy
    loubidy Posts: 440 Member
    Valuable article to those who think just because their eating healthy they should lose weight. Quantity over quality every time for weightloss.
  • mschicagocubs
    mschicagocubs Posts: 774 Member
    I don't see that it's much different than other "it's not my fault I got fat" articles. Choosing to believe unrealistic claims of 'eat all you want an still lose weight' is just as ridiculous no matter what diet you follow or what supplements you take.
    Where in the article does he say "eat all you want and still lose weight". He eats what he wants within his calorie and macro goals.

    Exactly. I actually read the article and it was fantastic. I've dieted before and had success, but it was hell. I'm not not dieting, I'm just eating 1700 calories a day. And I still have ice cream, pizza, fast food, chips, soda, alcohol .... IN MODERATION!

    And I don't have the need to binge and pig out because I am not eliminating anything. I look great and I am excited what the next few months have in store :)

    Thank you for the share!
  • AlabasterVerve
    AlabasterVerve Posts: 3,171 Member
    Valuable article to those who think just because their eating healthy they should lose weight. Quantity over quality every time for weightloss.
    Absolutely. But people are able to lose and maintain their weight loss without counting calories. I do it. I just have to eat whole foods and severely restrict my carbs while I'm at it and I'm good -- my appetite (calories) regulates itself. It's a valid approach that can (and does work) for many people. It's more sustainable -- for me -- to eat to satiety and exercise when I feel like it than to count calories and exercise daily in order to "afford" to eat enough to be happy.

    As long as people realize the "eat as much as you like" claims are relying on your new clean-paleo-primal-lowcarb-whatever diet to reduce your appetite so you spontaneously eat less I don't see a problem with those approaches.
  • Wtn_Gurl
    Wtn_Gurl Posts: 396 Member
    Just because it did not work for someone else, does not mean it wont work for me.

    As a matter of fact, IT IS WORKING FOR ME.

    I shall continue as I have been.
  • mschicagocubs
    mschicagocubs Posts: 774 Member
    Just because it did not work for someone else, does not mean it wont work for me.

    As a matter of fact, IT IS WORKING FOR ME.

    I shall continue as I have been.

    No one said you couldn't. But I will eat your ice cream.
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