meant to be fat???

xojox
xojox Posts: 187 Member
edited September 21 in Health and Weight Loss
on a real downer at the moment!! :cry:

i have not shifted weight for several weeks and my scales this morning put me up by 4lb!!?? its not my official weigh in - thats tomorrow - but it just got to me so bad

I don't think i've had a bad week, and my diary is public, i'm trying to moniter more of what i eat and the break down of the food.

I'm not even sure what any1 can say to this post, just soooo close to just giving up and wanted some1 to moan at i guess

xjox
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  • sblades
    sblades Posts: 75
    Moan away, but don't give up! :)
    Maybe you're on a plateau, retaining a little water, or just off today.

    We are all on long journeys here, and noone ever said it's easy the whole way.

    Keep on keeping on!
  • nursejls82
    nursejls82 Posts: 2 Member
    I know eactly how your feeling. I've been doing everything right and have not lost a single pound in a week and a half. Its hard to stay positive when you feel like its all for nothing. But tomorrow is another day. Try your best to stick with it and you'll get there. :)
  • nopeekiepeekie
    nopeekiepeekie Posts: 338 Member
    I just took a quick peek at your diary. It seems to me the some sodium levels in the food you are eating is off. Most curry sauces have sodium, but the one you have listed for yesterday says none. So you may be taking in more sodium than you realize.

    Also, is it close to the time of your monthly? That always causes me to put on anywhere from 2-10 lbs from water retention. For the month of September, I lost a mere 2lbs, but I have noticed my weight is shifting (for lack of a better term). You might want to start measuring along with weighing in, as the tape measure usually shows more successes than the scale.
  • Disciplined74
    Disciplined74 Posts: 298 Member
    My official weigh in was today and I posted a gain. I was disappointed. My first thought was to stop at my fav ff restaurant and eat all those things I was miising. But I didn't. Instead I went to the grocery, got two more sets of measuring cups, got a no sodium spice that I like on my fish, and a low sodium salad dressing.

    So I took this as an opportunity to do a little better. Take a look at your sodium intake. Water intake. and foods in general to see where you could improve.

    I'm really tending to think that the weather has gotten cooler (at least where I live) so maybe my body is just storing up fat for the winter but I'm going to do this. And so are you.

    Hang in there. This is just the test before the reward. You will get over this bump.

    Let me know if there is anything that I can do to help. You have lots of people rooting for you and are here to help and support you while you succeed.

    Eva
  • kimdoes
    kimdoes Posts: 90
    No way! You've come too far to give up. Your body has probably adjusted to the "new" eating and exercise that helped you lose the first 20. Now you need to shake things up a little. The last time I lost weight, I lost 18 then hit a plateau. I thought I was done losing weight. Literally for a month, I maintained my weight- didn't lose or gain. After that month, I dropped another 10 lbs in no time. Ya know, judging by your pic, you're not FAT. Dont give up! :smile:
  • Don't give up don't give up don't give up! Persistance will get you practically anywhere, you can do it!
  • hjeubanks
    hjeubanks Posts: 18 Member
    Don’t be discouraged! I felt the same way in the beginning of the week...I hadn't lost a single pound since last week and even when I weighed myself on Wednesday...still no drop. But, lo and behold, I get on there this morning (Fridays are my "official" days) and I'm down three pounds. Just give it a little longer and see what happens. We all have off days and you have already worked too hard; it will just keep coming off!



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  • jrbowers83
    jrbowers83 Posts: 282 Member
    It sounds like you've reached a bit of a plateau. I've been on a few myself, so I know what you're going through! But don't give up, just try to relax and stick with it. You could think of it like this...you could stay right where you are, which is smaller than you were a few months ago and healthier to boot. Or you could go back completely to old habits and keep gaining. I personally am on a plateau and getting really close to goal, so I just switched to maintenance to stick with this weight. Then I'll try to lose again in a month or so.

    Just looking at your diary, it may be that you get a lot of sodium in your diet that isn't accounted for. Bread and soups have quite a bit of sodium, and it looks like it's not recorded on your nutrition labels in UK? If it is, then when you add your food to diary, you can edit the facts and put it in. That 4 lb gain could easily be caused solely by the sodium. I would also suggest switching up your breakfast a little. Have a slice of toast with a small piece of fruit, some oatmeal with fruit or nuts, or an egg white omelet with some veggies. All that bread can tend to cause bloating for me, despite being within my cal and carb goals. I aim to get 5 servings of fruits/vegetables a day and I notice a huge difference in my energy levels and weight gain when I don't, so that's another small thing to try. Also, what does your workout routine look like? Try just some little tweaks here and there, and try to relax about the final goal-- focus more on how far you've come. MFP has a great supportive community to help you through. Best of luck to you :flowerforyou:
  • deshaine
    deshaine Posts: 195
    Personally, I don't think anyone is meant to be fat, but our bodies do get comfortable at certain weight and that's what we typically call a plateau. Shock your body and you should see a weight loss; change things up, like your work outs or food consumption.

    Also, if you still have menses, consider your time of the month. Some women "gain" 5 pounds around their time. So, if this is your time, you make have actually lost a pound.

    Stay positive and diligent. :flowerforyou:
  • Just a quick peek at your diary & I'd day you need to cut down the bread. Your in the UK so alot of the food is different from here in the USA. I'm not 100% sure of what some stuff is but half looks like junk food to be but like I said, I don't know UK food.

    Just random picking stuff from various days over the last week :

    Mr Porky - Pork Scratchings - whatever that is look like a sodium bomb

    Pretzels & crisps as snacks.

    Chocolate Covered Peanuts

    Mini cheese pizzas

    Oven crisps & rice at dinner one night.

    Coco Pops Cereal and Milk Bars & Crisps for breakfast one day

    3 slices of bread with chocolate cereal for breakfast

    Ryvita crispbread


    You don't see this as a bad week? You've got some good stuff in there but half of your food looks to be total crap. Don't give up though, just swap out the junk for more fruit & veggies & less processed prepackaged junk.
  • bluiz13
    bluiz13 Posts: 3,550 Member
    i just took a quick look at your food diary and i agree with several of the above posters.....you definitely are not tracking sodium....if the foods you are entering do not have sodium listed then change the entry with the proper nutritional values...i do this all the time when i find something off...i find the food here and i still look at the label to make sure it is right....no offense to people who add food but i can't trust that they are entering it correctly.....you have to still do the work of making sure what you put in your face is what you are tracking.....

    since i dont know english foods none of that stuff in your diary looked familiar but i do know that bread does not have 0 MG of sodium....

    i just suggest you pay more attention to you foods, up your water and stay the course.....this will work if you work it....
    good luck on your journey of change...
  • godblessourhome
    godblessourhome Posts: 3,892 Member
    i'm going to say ditto about the carbs. some people do really well on a carb-heavy eating plan, but i need to eat lower-carb for my body to lose weight.

    i can be under my calories but over on carbs and i will gain weight, but i can be over my calories and under on carbs and i will lose. it is strange, but true. try switching your macronutrients up a bit. mfp sets you at 55% carbs, 25% fats and 20% protien. i changed it to 25% carbs, 30% fats and 45% protien. you don't have to go as extreme as i did, but maybe try 40/30/30.

    carbs are not evil, but for me it works best to include them moderately. don't give up!
    dawn
  • xojox
    xojox Posts: 187 Member
    looking at your advice and my diary i think you're right, its crap!!! i think its time to give up and go to docs can't do this on my own anymore, thank you all for your replies x
  • Aeriel
    Aeriel Posts: 864 Member
    I hit a plateau for most of August and half of September, after losing 30 pounds. I actually did a few things. I scaled my weight loss goals back from 1.5 pounds per week to 1 pound, thereby increasing my calories by 320 per day. I relaxed on my cardio a little and added some strength training in. I changed from exercising inside to walking/jogging outside. After 2 weeks from the change, I started dropping weight again and now I am down 39 pounds. Shake your body up and as strange as it sounds, sometimes eating a little more makes you lose weight! :noway:
  • iAlly
    iAlly Posts: 66
    Jo please stop for a minute and think about what you have achieved this year so far.

    You've lost 24lbs already!

    Call me stupid but that says to me that you CAN do it and you ARE doing it.

    Also, you're not on your own. We're all here with you. By all means go to the doc if you want but don't use this little set back as an excuse to give in.

    These kinds of ideas 'I don't care', 'I can't do it', 'It'll never work' are all tricks your mind plays on you to get what it wants. It's not the reality of the situation.

    Stick with us.
  • xojox
    xojox Posts: 187 Member
    Thank u all 4 some lovely comments, but i've always had trouble seeing past the negative and gingersnarks comment really got 2 me - maybe it is just time 2 admit defeat x
  • xojox
    xojox Posts: 187 Member
    Thank u all 4 some lovely comments, but i've always had trouble seeing past the negative and gingersnarks comment really got 2 me - maybe it is just time 2 admit defeat x
  • iAlly
    iAlly Posts: 66
    Well I think Gingersnarks just trying to dish out some tough love.

    It's not time to admit defeat it's time do do something to snap yourself out this negative mood. Find something that you enjoy doing (not eating or drinking) and do it today. You need to lift your spirits Jo!

    I wanna know tomorrow something you did today to make yourself feel good please :)
  • nick1109
    nick1109 Posts: 174 Member
    Looking your food diary you're eating too many carbs in my opinion. Calorie intake looks about right but too many breads and starchy carbs.

    Replace these things with fruit or veg and include more good fats from nuts and fish

    Remember to record monitor and adjust. If no progress is being made after the above is implemented then possibly it's time to taker another 200 calories a day out
  • pickledlilly
    pickledlilly Posts: 98 Member
    Thank u all 4 some lovely comments, but i've always had trouble seeing past the negative and gingersnarks comment really got 2 me - maybe it is just time 2 admit defeat x

    Come on Jo10, it's difficult when someone tells it as it is so please don't run away. Basically she has summarised what people were saying. So, what are we going to do? Get fatter face or get slimmer.

    Every one of us are different and we have to find what is best for us individually. So, what you are doing now is holding up your weight loss. It could be a few things and the main one is the processed carbs you are eating.

    If you could eliminate the processed food and replace with wholegrains and fruit and veg you will feel fuller and keep your energy levels up especially with your boys. It's so easy to pick up a bag of hola hoops when you are busy and I know an apple dosn't cut the mustard but that's the choice we have to make.

    It's very difficult and I struggle but I don't want to be an old fat frump. Think about them skinny jeans on there way for xmas.

    Stay Jo.
  • TateFTW
    TateFTW Posts: 658 Member
    You're giving up when you haven't even STARTED yet! Get that chocolate covered, carb filled crap and throw in the TRASH. Take a trash bag and fill it with anything in your kitchen that doesn't HELP you reach your goals. If you're not sure if you should keep it or not, DON'T. Before you get rid of the bag, take a look at it and say "Thanks for NOTHING."

    What you are, healthy or unhealthy, is a result of your decisions. No one else in this whole world can change your decisions for you. No doctor's band and scalpel, no psychologist's couch, no one but YOU. No one ever succeeded in this world walking around feeling sorry for themselves. If you want to do this, then stop going halfway. Commit, 100%, and make the changes you know you need to make.

    I used to be over 300 lbs. I had asthma and bad joints at 21 years old. I would stay at home instead of hanging out with friends because they were walking somewhere and I knew I just couldn't walk that far. I had given in to the fact that I was just meant to be fat, and my genetics wouldn't let me change. Such bu11$h!t. Next thing I knew my sister had lost 60 lbs, and I didn't have my excuse anymore. I started exercising every single day for an hour. NOTHING. I stopped eating pizza. NOTHING. Not a single lb lost. When I finally committed 100% and made sure every single decision I made pushed me towards my goal, the weight started moving. Now I'm a 208 lb weightlifter with a body some would kill for. When I get down under 200 lbs I should finally have the 6-pack I've always dreamed of and spent the last years working for and earning. I can run for miles and miles. I can bench press my bodyweight 6 times. If I had known how amazing it FEELS to be this healthy, I would have made a lot of changes much, much sooner.
  • aprilgicker
    aprilgicker Posts: 395 Member
    I Don't mean to be harsh but when I get here and I know I will I hope someone lays it out like this!

    First you are doing great to continue logging your cals. I just started doing that OMG I wouldn't here if I had just listened to my Mom!

    BUT, You need to get real with yourself.
    You eat too much starch, and not enough colored veggies. Even fruit would be better
    Snacks that have to advertise they are 100cals are still bad for you.
    I noticed you ate 1/2 a slice of a small slice of pizza. OK?!
    Get away from the junk food even in small amounts is still junk.

    My ticker says I have only lost 2lbs but I have been to the gym 5 day a week since I started and have last 3 inch from my waist. My arms are 1inch smaller and my thighs are 2 inches smaller. that is a lot of weight transfer.
    take this weekend to redo your food. go by things that are posh, try them and get out of your rut!
  • Mirabilis
    Mirabilis Posts: 312 Member
    As a bottom line, whatever you eat, if you're 500 cal below your BMR you will lose weight. Period.

    Everybody gets plateaux. And if they keep at it, they fall off the plateaux, sometimes with significant losses in a very short time. I spent the last month gaining and losing the same three pounds, and just this week I've lost another five. Don't be surprised if you're weeks at the same weight. You'll notice that you can feel your shoulder bones more, or that somehow even though you're the same weight, your clothes fit differently, somehow.

    You will have more than one plateau, I promise. You'll learn they're not the end of the world.

    It's your choice to eat the sweets (they are physically addictive, not just mentally), but if you do, it's hard to appreciate the subtle flavours of fruits and vegetables, which are sweet in their own right.

    You don't have to give up everything that tastes good to you. I had a little bowl (40g) of potato chips yesterday because I had 210 cal in my diet that I could use for a treat. The trick is to measure them out. No, they weren't baked chips, but they were done in canola oil and minimal salt, so it wasn't all that bad, nutrition wise. If you like ice cream, try frozen no fat yogurt at 100 cal per half cup (125ml). And stick to only a half cup.

    If you don't want to be hungry, fill up on fibre. It's cheap for calories and you can use small amounts of sweetener which don't impact on your calorie count or better, real fruit without added sugar. I have oatmeal every morning, and I'm never hungry. I sometimes eat Ryvita Muesli Crunch, which is 65 cal per "cracker" -- they're not crackers, exactly -- which is very high fiber, low cal and sweetened slightly with honey and black currants. It's a very healthy alternative to regular cereal, but as with all starches, you have to keep a tight rein on portions. Oh yeah, some oatmeals have added soy protein, which are really good for keeping you full (look for those specifically), and the Ryvita also has pumpkin and sunflower seeds, which are a protein source.

    Parcel out veggie snacks and take them with you to eat during the day. 200g of raw carrots is only 70 cal!

    Measure everything! Don't be lazy with the food listings on this website. Some of them are wrong. If you can't find an entry with the right nutritional information, then put it in yourself, and be detailed and accurate.

    Drink ALL your water. It's hard at first, but gets easier. You will retain water less because your body goes out of conservation mode and starts trusting that it will get more when it needs it.

    Don't eat less than your recommended base calories or your body will go into conservation mode (starvation mode is a misnomer) and you won't lose the weight without a struggle. I don't know if that's the body retaining water again to maintain current weight, but I think so.

    EDIT: Of course I forgot something important: Eat regularly and don't skip snacks or meals. You should be eating every three to five hours so that your body trusts that it will get energy when it needs it. Don't eat large meals. A piece of fruit here, a red pepper there, a salad at another meal with grilled chicken (not lots of it) -- this is healthy eating.

    Lastly, it's good that you're telling us how you feel. We've all felt that way at one time or another. BUT none of us can be brave and courageous for you. You have to do that for yourself. You can blame your mom for not teaching you about portion control or whatever, but ultimately, it's your body and your consequence. Please keep at it.
  • andy13
    andy13 Posts: 208 Member
    We shall never surrender.

    Do it for churchill!
  • reneelee
    reneelee Posts: 877 Member
    Girl I have gone more than a month without weight loss, but had inchs lost instead. A few months I had no movement at all, and that is okay, because if you are not over eating and moving your body the scale and inches are going to move down, just be patien it will happen.
  • highrise
    highrise Posts: 147 Member
    Hi Jo, please don't give up - you can do it, just look at all the fantastic success stories on here.

    As others have suggested it might be worth changing up your diet a bit, get rid of the bread and crisps (or just have them on occasion) and eat more fruit and veg, pulses and grains. Drink loads of water and find an exercise that you enjoy. It IS hard work, and you will get plenty of tough love on here and my goodness look at the trials and tribulations we all go through on this site :) but it can happen for you.

    Good luck!
  • Mookz0r
    Mookz0r Posts: 143
    looking at your advice and my diary i think you're right, its crap!!! i think its time to give up and go to docs can't do this on my own anymore, thank you all for your replies x

    It's not crap, hun, but it can do with some tweaking.

    I personally think you're spot on for your calorie goal - 1400-1500 is perfect. I'm fed up of seeing people's set to 1200! There's more to life than a diet!

    I think there are some things though that aren't quite right. I noticed you'd logged some mini cornish pasties - just in terms of calories, but all the nutritional values had come up as 0. Now, much as I love cornish pasties (or the mini pork pies), everyone knows that have just a tiny amount of lots of fat in them... as well as lots of carbs!

    I also noticed that you do eat a lot of bread, often accompanied by a processed dish - tinned soup, baked beans, whatever... all of which contain a fair amount of carbs, salt and invariably flavourings, sugar, and colourings. I think a first step would be to limit this kind of meal to just once a day (and then once every other day, etc...) because it actually doesn't do that much for you. Depending on your budget and time, you could try to substitute canned soups for fresh ones - or even home-made! These are deadly simple to do - bung random stuff in a saucepan, boil it, and blend it - and ofc you have complete control over what goes in them.

    Lastly, your snacks. They're often a packet of crisps. Are there any alternatives that you'd quite enjoy? Maybe move to Snack-a-jacks or something similar... or pre-chopped fruit, nuts or a cereal bar. Tescos and whatnot also do fruit bars (check out Humzingers) that are sooooo moreish but brilliantly good for you!

    The crucial thing is that you never feel you're sacrificing what you enjoy. Make smart choices whenever you can, but if you want fish and chips (and who doesn't?!) then have it. Life really is too short not to enjoy our food.

    I've just come off my 2 month-long plateau, where I didn't lose a thing and am starting to lose slowly again. Just when you want to jack it all in, there's hope. Hang on in there!

    Ah, yes, and I'm one of the few who doesn't exercise at the gym!
  • pkgirrl
    pkgirrl Posts: 587
    Jo!

    Don't give up on yourself! You've come this far, and if you ever want to see that "skinny *kitten*" in the mirror (wink, wink) keep going!
    You can do it! Nobody on here wants to drag you down, they just want to help. You said yourself your diet could use a clean-up, but if you're not ready for a huge change, don't do it. You'll have a hard time sticking by it, and wind up feeling even worse. Just take baby steps. Try swapping out just one meal a day for something really healthy that's going to make you feel good about yourself. Say a great big salad for lunch, with chicken breast, nuts, fruit,(I love a little goat cheese) covered with olive oil, lemon juice, or balsamic vinegar. Add a whole wheat roll if you feel carb deprived.

    Just take it one step at a time lovely, and don't be afraid to eat! Anything clean and healthy you put into your body is going to do more good, especially if it makes you feel good about yourself.
  • lisa152
    lisa152 Posts: 2 Member
    You're giving up when you haven't even STARTED yet! Get that chocolate covered, carb filled crap and throw in the TRASH. Take a trash bag and fill it with anything in your kitchen that doesn't HELP you reach your goals. If you're not sure if you should keep it or not, DON'T. Before you get rid of the bag, take a look at it and say "Thanks for NOTHING."

    What you are, healthy or unhealthy, is a result of your decisions. No one else in this whole world can change your decisions for you. No doctor's band and scalpel, no psychologist's couch, no one but YOU. No one ever succeeded in this world walking around feeling sorry for themselves. If you want to do this, then stop going halfway. Commit, 100%, and make the changes you know you need to make.

    I used to be over 300 lbs. I had asthma and bad joints at 21 years old. I would stay at home instead of hanging out with friends because they were walking somewhere and I knew I just couldn't walk that far. I had given in to the fact that I was just meant to be fat, and my genetics wouldn't let me change. Such bu11$h!t. Next thing I knew my sister had lost 60 lbs, and I didn't have my excuse anymore. I started exercising every single day for an hour. NOTHING. I stopped eating pizza. NOTHING. Not a single lb lost. When I finally committed 100% and made sure every single decision I made pushed me towards my goal, the weight started moving. Now I'm a 208 lb weightlifter with a body some would kill for. When I get down under 200 lbs I should finally have the 6-pack I've always dreamed of and spent the last years working for and earning. I can run for miles and miles. I can bench press my bodyweight 6 times. If I had known how amazing it FEELS to be this healthy, I would have made a lot of changes much, much sooner.


    such a good reply!! You made me cry.
    i need to push myself FOR myself
  • anubis609
    anubis609 Posts: 3,966 Member
    Whatever you decide to do is up to you. That's why it's called a lifestyle. Literally, a style of life. It's not a temporary fix to get fit then eat whatever you want.

    I had to almost die from acute pancreatitis and going into a sudden diabetic coma for me to change. Mind you, my diabetes was undiagnosed until I went into the ER that night of the coma. If you can't push through old habits and are unwilling to keep a constant change going, nothing will help. My step-grandfather had gastric bypass surgery, which initially helped him lose weight. Then he gained it all back, and more. He died from a massive cardiac infarction at the post-stomach stapling weight of a good ol' 450 lbs. It took 10 pallbearers to wheel him to his grave. Simply because he felt he could keep his habits even after the weight-loss surgery.

    I've lost about 124 lbs since being 303 lbs as of last April [when I found out I had diabetes]. I'm now asymptomatic [no high blood sugar, no meds] all from diet and exercise alone. High blood pressure, I had that too. Now it's normal at about 110/65. High cholesterol, I had that too. Now it's well into normal range. Gout, I had that too. Haven't had a flare-up since. I stopped smoking and drinking and doing drugs. A COMPLETE LIFESTYLE CHANGE. And that's all self-motivated because I didn't favor the idea of dying yet. It didn't even make me sad to know I was going to die. I should have a long time ago. But since I have the greatest belief in my own abilities, I wasn't gonna let a small thing like dying beat me.

    So, throwing yourself the pity party of the century may help you, specifically, feel better, but in no way is it beneficial. Psychologically, it will only damage you. But whatever you feel works for you.
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