What Machines are good for weight loss at the gym?

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  • Capt_Apollo
    Capt_Apollo Posts: 9,026 Member
    My trainer told me form doesnt matter its the muscle contraction. if you lift it up thats good, expeciallly you want to get bigger you lift heavier weights, you might struggle but 2 or 3 reps will build muscles. form just limits you

    yeah, form limits you from being injured.
  • QueenBishOTUniverse
    QueenBishOTUniverse Posts: 14,121 Member
    I definitely agree with the general consensus, weight train with a barbell, keep as much cardio in there as you are comfortable with for heart health, but don't feel like you have to kill yourself on the cardio if it's something you're not fond of.

    BUT, I am seriously concerned about the comment from your trainer. Maybe we're getting it out of context, but bad form on a deadlift when you are picking massive weight up off the ground sounds like an excellent recipe for permanent back injury to me....

    ETA, clearly I'm far too slow with the posting, oh well.
  • megsmom2
    megsmom2 Posts: 2,362 Member
    Don't drop the cardio. No, it doesn't help you sculpt or look good. It helps you be physically fit...maybe live longer. Your heart and lungs and everything else needs it.
  • vjohn04
    vjohn04 Posts: 2,276 Member
    I rarely do this, but I'm calling troll.
  • iPlatano
    iPlatano Posts: 487 Member
    My trainer told me form doesnt matter its the muscle contraction.

    You need a new trainer.

    This x1000.

    This!!!
  • QueenBishOTUniverse
    QueenBishOTUniverse Posts: 14,121 Member
    I rarely do this, but I'm calling troll.

    I was wondering this as well. I just can not IMAGINE there would be a trainer out there stupid enough to say something like that! But I've been proven wrong about that sort of thing before....
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,972 Member
    I do the tread mill speed walking, my stamina is not all good, I use the stationary bike. Should I lift weights on the machines, because im doing mostly cardio to burn the fat off
    Machines don't cause weight loss................calorie deficit does. One could use the BEST machinery in the world to burn calories, but if they matched them with consumption, no weight would be lost.
    Pick a machine that YOU will like and do consistently.

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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,972 Member
    Also one thing I learned is that if you're unfamiliar with free weights, always go with a friend who can teach you how to do things with proper form, or ask someone to show you. I went with friends when I started using free weights and they really made me work on my form first to ensure that I'm getting the most out of my lifting. Form and technique matters a lot, not just for efficiency of your work outs, but more importantly, your safety!
    The key here is learning from someone who is actually well versed in kinesiology because there are lots of people who think they are lifting correctly, but really have substandard form.

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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,972 Member
    My trainer told me form doesnt matter its the muscle contraction. if you lift it up thats good, expeciallly you want to get bigger you lift heavier weights, you might struggle but 2 or 3 reps will build muscles. form just limits you
    Lol, weights matter, but not with bad form.

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  • Fiercely_Me
    Fiercely_Me Posts: 481 Member
    I suggest you forget all the cardio. You burn more calories doing body weight exercises and you get to build muscle (which burns calories all by itself). A good diet combined with heavy lifting is the way to change your body however you want it to look.

    Hm...30 minutes of cardio burns more calories than 30 minutes of strength training. However, having more muscle means you'll burn more throughout the day, like you said. Plus there's the afterburn, which I think people exaggerate. I think cardio is great if you like it and have body fat to lose, but it's not necessary. I personally hate cardio, but I do it twice a week around my strength training for the extra calorie burn. You can't lift every day, so it's good to stay active. If you don't have much body fat and just want your body to look better, heavy lifting with little to no cardio is certainly the way to go.

    A little cardio is okay, but it is unnecessary for most people.

    http://suppversity.blogspot.com/2014/01/do-we-systematically-underestimate.html

    "For Mr. Average Joe with a body weight of 80kg, this would mean that his 30 minutes body weight workout doesn't consume 288kcal, but 576kcal and thus way more than 30min of jogging, which should cost him ~400kcal.

    Bottom line: I guess I don't have to tell you that these results are very important. Not for you, obviously, because you as a SuppVersity reader know about the fallacy of working out to burn energy, but for all those Average Joes and specifically Janes out there who still believe that you'd lose weight by simply burning all the junk you eat off in the gym.

    Cardio "addicts" would yet not be the only ones for whom these results - if they turn out to be substantial - would have huge consequences. The average "expert" on the panels we owe the wise dietary and exercise guidelines to, would probably also have to revise his opinion on the primary of "cardio" exercise for its "superior ability to help shed weight"... unfortunately, my gut tells me that I am the only one who even noticed the (future) publication of this paper in the Journal of Strength and Conditioning."

    Interesting study. If this study doesn't change the way people view resistance training vs traditional steady-state cardio, I don't know what will!
  • MagnumBurrito
    MagnumBurrito Posts: 1,070 Member
    Don't drop the cardio. No, it doesn't help you sculpt or look good. It helps you be physically fit...maybe live longer. Your heart and lungs and everything else needs it.

    Your heart and lungs are used a lot when lifting heavy too.

    New studies are concluding the more muscle mass you have and keep, the better chance you have to live longer and healthier.

    http://consumer.healthday.com/senior-citizen-information-31/senior-citizen-news-778/briefs-emb-3-13-older-adults-muscle-mass-ajm-ucla-release-batch-1184-685863.html

    "In other words, the greater your muscle mass, the lower your risk of death," study co-author Dr. Arun Karlamangla, an associate professor in the geriatrics division at University of California, Los Angeles School of Medicine, said in a university news release. "Thus, rather than worrying about weight or body mass index, we should be trying to maximize and maintain muscle mass."

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