Muscle gain.

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  • Im just finding it hard to eat above 2000 without feeling like im going to pop, i guess i will get used to it. Also another question about gym sessions. How many exercises do you guys do for each muscle group, like for chest you could do bench press, chest press, press ups etc.

    Today at the gym i did shoulders and back, so i did shoulder press, seated row, delt raises and shrugs. I did about 3/4 sets of 6-10 reps. At the time i couldnt do anymore but i never got a real burn like i have experienced before.
    If i dont get the burning/ aching feeling when lifting does it mean im not doing it right?
  • jwdieter
    jwdieter Posts: 2,582 Member
    Im just finding it hard to eat above 2000 without feeling like im going to pop, i guess i will get used to it. Also another question about gym sessions. How many exercises do you guys do for each muscle group, like for chest you could do bench press, chest press, press ups etc.

    Today at the gym i did shoulders and back, so i did shoulder press, seated row, delt raises and shrugs. I did about 3/4 sets of 6-10 reps. At the time i couldnt do anymore but i never got a real burn like i have experienced before.
    If i dont get the burning/ aching feeling when lifting does it mean im not doing it right?

    Sounds like you're just winging it. You should be doing a starter progressive lifting program. Starting strength, stronglifts, wendler, allpro, etc. Follow a program and you'll know what you're doing, and you'll do a lot better.
  • cricket_77
    cricket_77 Posts: 165 Member
    My 19 year old son was having a hard time gaining any weight. He finally just started stuffing himself and lifting hard. He went from 150 to 185 in a matter of about 4-5 months. As someone else said, you are in your prime right now. It should be easy for you to gain muscle as long as you are eating enough and lifting heavy. Get plenty of protein and up your calories! My son walked around with a jar of peanut butter if he thought he wasn't taking in enough for the day. Did he gain some fat, yes a little, but there is a major difference in his body now. His once slender shoulders are now wide and the skinny kid is now pretty muscular.
  • shane_tac1
    shane_tac1 Posts: 35 Member
    Im just finding it hard to eat above 2000 without feeling like im going to pop, i guess i will get used to it. Also another question about gym sessions. How many exercises do you guys do for each muscle group, like for chest you could do bench press, chest press, press ups etc.

    Today at the gym i did shoulders and back, so i did shoulder press, seated row, delt raises and shrugs. I did about 3/4 sets of 6-10 reps. At the time i couldnt do anymore but i never got a real burn like i have experienced before.
    If i dont get the burning/ aching feeling when lifting does it mean im not doing it right?

    Liquid cals would be your best bet to make up the cals and what the poster above suggested about peanut butter is a trick i use as well. I stick it in and on everything lol. Good fats and protein.

    PM me and I will help you write out a program if you want and help you calculate how many cals you should be having.

    At 18 your test levels are naturally high so you will grow without the need for steroids like someone suggested right after your original post. This is terrible advise so please ignore that. You don't have a grasp of the basics in regards to training or nutrition so to even think about using roids would be like giving the keys to a gun cabinet to a 10 year old.

    Biggest mistake i made at 18 was not eating enough, over training and putting weight above form. To grow you have to have the mind set of a bodybuilder not a weight lifter. Lifting weights is just going through the motions to move it. You need to create a strong mind and body connection to really build your body.
  • trojan_bb
    trojan_bb Posts: 699 Member
    1400 cals...wow.

    Add 2000 Calories to that total, lift up and through the summer, and maybe you will gain some decent muscle mass. But anything under 3000 Calories is just plain inefficient, slow, and nearly pointless. You are a young male at low bodyfat. There is absolutely no reason to try gaining weight on anything less than 3000 Calories.
  • trojan_bb
    trojan_bb Posts: 699 Member
    Im just finding it hard to eat above 2000 without feeling like im going to pop, i guess i will get used to it. Also another question about gym sessions. How many exercises do you guys do for each muscle group, like for chest you could do bench press, chest press, press ups etc.

    Today at the gym i did shoulders and back, so i did shoulder press, seated row, delt raises and shrugs. I did about 3/4 sets of 6-10 reps. At the time i couldnt do anymore but i never got a real burn like i have experienced before.
    If i dont get the burning/ aching feeling when lifting does it mean im not doing it right?

    Do you mean a pump? Even a low rep strength routine should give a decent muscle pump in the targeted muscles. 3-4 sets of each exercise at 6-10 reps? If so, and you did not get a muscle pump (muscle becomes engorged with fluid, hard to move, hurts and feels good, looks larger)....you did something wrong. The pump will always vary based on daily water/calorie levels as well as the volume and speed (time between sets) of the workout. But it should ALWAYS exist when bulking.

    if you are eating under 2500 calories....you will not get a decent muscle pump. The pump needs water and nutrients to exist....at low calories that environment barely exists.
  • 12by311
    12by311 Posts: 1,716 Member
    How many exercises do you guys do for each muscle group, like for chest you could do bench press, chest press, press ups etc.

    You need an actual program. Quick. There are lots of freebies on the internet. There's already been a few mentioned in this thread.
  • cwsreddy
    cwsreddy Posts: 998 Member
    Dude you're 18 and skinny as *kitten* and you're worried about eating 2000 calories? look at my pictures. I'm 5'7" and I eat 3,000 - 4,000 calories a DAY.

    I honestly am concerned that you don't have a healthy relationship with food. There's no reason in hell for you to have been eating 800 calories a day.
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  • saaber13
    saaber13 Posts: 597 Member
    Im just finding it hard to eat above 2000 without feeling like im going to pop, i guess i will get used to it. Also another question about gym sessions. How many exercises do you guys do for each muscle group, like for chest you could do bench press, chest press, press ups etc.

    Today at the gym i did shoulders and back, so i did shoulder press, seated row, delt raises and shrugs. I did about 3/4 sets of 6-10 reps. At the time i couldnt do anymore but i never got a real burn like i have experienced before.
    If i dont get the burning/ aching feeling when lifting does it mean im not doing it right?

    Jesus i eat 3700 a day and sometimes go to bed hungry
  • jforjorden
    jforjorden Posts: 4 Member
    You need at LEAST 3500 calories.. You'll die if you continue doing so much cardio/working out with 1400 calories.

    I'm 5'11, 130 lb's and I'm aiming for 3400 calories atm.

    If you're having trouble getting 2000 calories in, try eating in small portions frequently. Basically 6-8 meals per day, it'll help open up your appetite. Also you should think about taking supplements to help you get to your calorie goal. I wouldn't worry about putting on fat either, considering the amount of cardio you do, just don't worry about it.
  • You need at LEAST 3500 calories.. You'll die if you continue doing so much cardio/working out with 1400 calories.

    I'm 5'11, 130 lb's and I'm aiming for 3400 calories atm.

    If you're having trouble getting 2000 calories in, try eating in small portions frequently. Basically 6-8 meals per day, it'll help open up your appetite. Also you should think about taking supplements to help you get to your calorie goal. I wouldn't worry about putting on fat either, considering the amount of cardio you do, just don't worry about it.

    Depends on how rigorous ur wieght lifting is tho. I'm 5ft 10 and 145 pounds! I do 5x5 and only 2 weeks in! I'm trying to eat 2700- a day and already feel like I'm putting on fat but that's because I was a ffb! I put on 5 lbs in a month! Not sure if that's good or bad gains! I'm prob scared a bit ! When I start lifting heavier and see some results that don't lead I too much fat gain I may increase my calories but if I'm eating loads of protein like I have been I may up calories!
  • Ive completely stopped the cardio for now to focus on muscle gain. I might start adding a 10 minute cardio session onto the end of my weights.
  • Your test levels at your age are becoming very optimal. Eat, eat, and eat everything. 4000 plus calories a day being your height and weight. 4000 sounds like a lot...because it is, but just trying to be realistic. If your staying active and not eating all junks then you'll be ok. Aim for it daily. Minimum 200g protein. You may miss it on somedays but no biggie. It'll be better to shoot high and come short, then to shoot mediocre and come short. Drink at least a gallon of water a day.

    Lift heavy within 8-12 rep range. Compound movements, especially the big 3(bench, squats and dead lifts) And throw in some low reps 4-6 and high 12-15+ every now and then for a shock.

    Keep up the moderate cardio post work. 3 times a week. only 10-15 minutes. It'll help keep your appetite up.
  • cwsreddy
    cwsreddy Posts: 998 Member
    Ive completely stopped the cardio for now to focus on muscle gain. I might start adding a 10 minute cardio session onto the end of my weights.

    Are you listening to the advice in this thread regarding caloric intake and following a program like Starting Strength? Don't just make it up as you go. It'll be that much harder for you to be successful.
  • LiftAllThePizzas
    LiftAllThePizzas Posts: 17,857 Member
    Eat. ALL. THE. THINGS.

    LIFT. ALL.THE.THINGS.
    This. You can lose fat any time in your life. But there is and will never be any better time in your entire life to add muscle.

    IIRC in Starting Strength he recommends drinking an entire gallon of whole milk every day in addition to your normal meals.
  • You need at LEAST 3500 calories.. You'll die if you continue doing so much cardio/working out with 1400 calories.

    I'm 5'11, 130 lb's and I'm aiming for 3400 calories atm.

    If you're having trouble getting 2000 calories in, try eating in small portions frequently. Basically 6-8 meals per day, it'll help open up your appetite. Also you should think about taking supplements to help you get to your calorie goal. I wouldn't worry about putting on fat either, considering the amount of cardio you do, just don't worry about it.

    Depends on how rigorous ur wieght lifting is tho. I'm 5ft 10 and 145 pounds! I do 5x5 and only 2 weeks in! I'm trying to eat 2700- a day and already feel like I'm putting on fat but that's because I was a ffb! I put on 5 lbs in a month! Not sure if that's good or bad gains! I'm prob scared a bit ! When I start lifting heavier and see some results that don't lead I too much fat gain I may increase my calories but if I'm eating loads of protein like I have been I may up calories!
    What do your measurements say? The scale is not what you want to focus on, if I remember correctly, you are new to lifting and your ability to gain muscle mass is going to be higher because of this. Stick to your plan, take measurements, and profit.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    Eat. ALL. THE. THINGS.

    LIFT. ALL.THE.THINGS.
    This. You can lose fat any time in your life. But there is and will never be any better time in your entire life to add muscle.

    IIRC in Starting Strength he recommends drinking an entire gallon of whole milk every day in addition to your normal meals.


    yup. what I wouldn't give to go back 15 years and start lifting like crazy and bulking- I have good size and a nice base and have had that since I was younger thanks to my Marine father who insists on working out and incorporating weird crazy workout stuff while doing chores on the ranch. Seriously- muck stalls- do 10 pull ups- muck stalls - do 10 pull ups.

    But still. If I knew what I know now... I'd go back and lift or train even more- would have saved me some hassle!!!
  • goldenbeautyxo
    goldenbeautyxo Posts: 23 Member
    All this talk about "eat all things" is making me hungry :ohwell: