Common Misconception about Protein

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  • kginsanity
    kginsanity Posts: 1 Member
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    Some great posts in here.

    Just to add some weight, I agree with the following points:

    * you can only use in the region of 1.5g/kg of lean body weight (not fat) for growth & repair.

    * The excess protein will likely be stored as fat. Your body is built for famine & survival - it will build fat stores whereever possible.

    * Protein does take energy to convert to fuel, so yes a protein rich dinner might keep you fuller for longer and not convert to fat as easily as excess carbs BUT.....

    * ... a protein excessive diet creates lots of nitrogenous waste products putting excessive strain on the kidneys. Keep this up for a long time and you will push them to failure. It's not uncommon among body builders & I'm sure any seasoned medical professional would qualify that statement.

    * You need carbs! Your body operates on an 'energy-now' system when exercising - even in the fat burning aerobic zones, think of carbs as catalysts or firelighters to your furnace. If you just have protein, you body will take some from your gut but is more likely to take it from close to the source where it is needed - the muscles! Going catabolic will get you that skinny-fat look.

    I'm sure what I have said will no doubt throw up detractors and people who agree - that's the nature of a forum. Rather than take everything written here are gospel truth, I encourage you to do your own research staying well clear of studies commissioned by supplement companies.

    You can find good articles here:
    http://www.pponline.co.uk/

    but really it's worth investing any new sports nutrition book. Any of the current ones will be a sage investment. I own "Advanced Sports Nutrition" By Dan Bernadot which is an easy and informative read. It's well worth the £10 / $10 investment.
  • musclebuilder
    musclebuilder Posts: 324 Member
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    No, excess protein does not get stored as fat.. If you increase your protein intake you will increase the oxidation rate of protein..The pathway for protein to be converted to fat does exist.. For protein to be converted to fat it would first have to be converted to glucose and glucose can be converted to fat.. But then that depends on over all caloric intake for that to occur. And even then it would take a very large over feeding of carbohydrates in which carbohydrate energy intake exceeds TEE for de-novo lipogenesis to occur and to be a quantitatively major pathway. Consume more carbs and you will burn more carbs and less fat. Under most real world circumstances, protein will not be converted and stored as fat.

    As far as ketones go.During dietary starvation, the ability to sustain life depends on the body's ability to form and utilize ketones. And during prolonged exercise ketone levels become elevated. But we have the ability to utilize ketones obviously. In fact endurance exercise has been shown to increase the enzyme content of enzymes that allow ketone utilization.
  • Kamila02
    Kamila02 Posts: 54 Member
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    THanks Banks... bump!
  • brityn
    brityn Posts: 443 Member
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    Thank you for clarifying this for everyone. I can't believe some of the 'bull' that gets posted on here. People read one thing and take it as the truth. You have to do your research. And do some well rounded research.
  • spicy618
    spicy618 Posts: 2,114 Member
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    I think everyone is taking this the TOTALLY wrong way. For starts, I said myself that 15% is not an EXACT number. It is a GUIDELINE. For athletes, it will be more. For people doing intense workouts (as I am), it will be more. If you are 200lbs of pure lean muscle you will need more than an average 160-170lb man with just little muscle.

    I am not stating opinions and/or pulling this from where the sun doesn't shine, I'm stating facts.
    Ketones are a toxin. FACT. The kidneys can be overworked due to excessive build ups of ketones. FACT. The human body can lose a lot of water while flushing ketones out. FACT. Dehydration is a loss of water in the body. FACT.

    There are always going to be people who don't agree with anything so I'm not going to waste my time arguing with any of you. The average joe will NEVER need as much as an athlete. Athletes with low BMIs have lots of lean muscle mass and they'll need about 1g per pound to maintain muscle mass. FACT.

    Sources:
    http://www.thedoctorwillseeyounow.com/content/nutrition/art2059.html
    http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=50900
    http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=11234
    http://pcrm.org/health/veginfo/vsk/protein_myth.html
    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/randy11.htm


    If you read those articles, it basically says the things as I have done. Specifically read one the last one. Maybe I just have a terrible way of wording things but the article on the bodybuilding site is a lot of what I'm trying to say.


    :laugh:
  • Ngolden1
    Ngolden1 Posts: 58 Member
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    True or False: Extra protein will not be stored as fat if total calories are at or under maintenance level.

    Reason I ask: I am in phase 1 of P90X and I am currently consuming 50% of my calories from protein. That's right - I am supposed to consume 150 grams of protein a day for a 1200 calorie diet. And I'm a five foot tall, 104lb girl. So yeah I should be super fat then if its true that excess protein leads to fat gain. Even with the exercise I would think. However I am at or under 1200 calories each day, so my body must be using the protein to function, correct?
  • SHBoss1673
    SHBoss1673 Posts: 7,161 Member
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    True or False: Extra protein will not be stored as fat if total calories are at or under maintenance level.

    Reason I ask: I am in phase 1 of P90X and I am currently consuming 50% of my calories from protein. That's right - I am supposed to consume 150 grams of protein a day for a 1200 calorie diet. And I'm a five foot tall, 104lb girl. So yeah I should be super fat then if its true that excess protein leads to fat gain. Even with the exercise I would think. However I am at or under 1200 calories each day, so my body must be using the protein to function, correct?

    it's false, and to be more clear, NO calories will be stored as fat if you are at or under maintenance, it has nothing to do with it being protein or fat or carbs.
  • skinnytayy
    skinnytayy Posts: 459
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    Thank you for clarifying this for everyone. I can't believe some of the 'bull' that gets posted on here. People read one thing and take it as the truth. You have to do your research. And do some well rounded research.

    Yep, its all bull. I just sit around and think of random things to say and then coincidentally there are tons of websites that agree with exactly what I'm saying. Everyone has their own opinions. I posted this to help people. I'm no doctor by all means but I'd like to think I'm pretty smart. If I didn't have references and sources to back me, I'd never post it. Like I said, I refuse to argue with anyone on here. Might as well argue with walls :laugh:
  • skinnytayy
    skinnytayy Posts: 459
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    I think everyone is taking this the TOTALLY wrong way. For starts, I said myself that 15% is not an EXACT number. It is a GUIDELINE. For athletes, it will be more. For people doing intense workouts (as I am), it will be more. If you are 200lbs of pure lean muscle you will need more than an average 160-170lb man with just little muscle.

    I am not stating opinions and/or pulling this from where the sun doesn't shine, I'm stating facts.
    Ketones are a toxin. FACT. The kidneys can be overworked due to excessive build ups of ketones. FACT. The human body can lose a lot of water while flushing ketones out. FACT. Dehydration is a loss of water in the body. FACT.

    There are always going to be people who don't agree with anything so I'm not going to waste my time arguing with any of you. The average joe will NEVER need as much as an athlete. Athletes with low BMIs have lots of lean muscle mass and they'll need about 1g per pound to maintain muscle mass. FACT.

    Sources:
    http://www.thedoctorwillseeyounow.com/content/nutrition/art2059.html
    http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=50900
    http://www.americanheart.org/presenter.jhtml?identifier=11234
    http://pcrm.org/health/veginfo/vsk/protein_myth.html
    http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/randy11.htm


    If you read those articles, it basically says the things as I have done. Specifically read one the last one. Maybe I just have a terrible way of wording things but the article on the bodybuilding site is a lot of what I'm trying to say.


    :laugh:


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