Do carbs make you fat?

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  • bmele0
    bmele0 Posts: 282 Member
    Almost everything has carbs in it- fruits, vegetables, etc. And those are the types of slow carbs you want to be ingesting along with whole grains. Avoid what they call "fast carbs" like white bread, milk, candy. Slow carbs won't cause the yo-yoing/crashing people describe when eating crappy fast carbs. Although I am not diabetic, I do follow the recommended diet structure by eating like 3 meals and 2-3 snacks a day. I try to keep total meal carbs below 40 and total snack carbs below 20.

    And one of the other posts mentioned- do not stop eating carbs, just eat the right ones and limit the amount per meal. Your brain requires glucose to keep going, here is a pretty neat snip-it from a text on Biochemistry- Each Organ Has a Unique Metabolic Profile http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK22436/
  • Cocoa1901
    Cocoa1901 Posts: 2 Member
    No.

    Excess calories do.

    This!

    Carbs are not all created equal by the way. Refined carbohydrates are as good as eating refined sugar (as in cookies, enriched white bread/flour/pasta)

    I'm veggie too, and you need to eat those carbs to get all your nutrients. Carbs are fuel. Carbs are good. Your brain starts to shut down if you don't consume carbs.

    This person is very correct! My mother is a dietitian and she constantly goes on about how people always want to blame a certain food group for gaining weight or the nutrients in certain foods and that's not how that works at all. It's almost entirely over-eating, or over-eating a certain food group. Everyone wants to cut carbs in their diet or take them out entirely and you know what that's called in the dietitian world? The "Sleepy and Stupid Diet". Because you're brain almost exclusively runs on carbs, so when you cut those out you get very tired and can't speak or think as well because you're brain has no fuel! Everyone forgets that so I applaud you!
  • darkangel45422
    darkangel45422 Posts: 234 Member
    well, yes and no. it's true that excess calories of any macro type will cause weight gain. but the type of macro does matter. if you eat a bunch of carbs and don't burn them off, they are stored as glucose. for every 1 gram of glucose the body holds, it holds 4 grams of water with it. so there's that. i've also found that carbs aren't very satiating relative to protein and fat. if i eat a 300 calorie meal made mostly of fat and/or protein, i'm usually stuffed for a few hours (fat digests slower). but if it's mostly carbs, then i'm hungry an hour later. so i'm more likely to consume more calories, which results in weight gain. i did lose close to 30 lbs. after cutting my carb intake to below 30 grams per day.
    Your statement makes no sense. You will be hungry which will cause you to overeat which will cause you to gain weight. You can't blame the carbs. You still had to eat more calories than maintenance.

    So the answer is No, carbs don't make you fat. Over eating does.

    And water weight gain is not fat gain.

    They're not blaming the carbs for weight gain as if they hadn't eaten over maintenance; they're saying that carbs aren't as filling so they're more likely to eat over maintenance and thus gain weight. So the answer is that for some people, eating carbs WILL make them fat not in and of themselves but because carbs cause them to be more likely to overeat and thus gain weight.
  • rainbow198
    rainbow198 Posts: 2,245 Member
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  • skrlec70
    skrlec70 Posts: 302 Member
    No they don't, stay within the guidelines that MFP provides and youll be fine, I was on the no carb thing for YEARS, all it did was lead me to binges .

    your body needs carbs, in moderation.
  • FatFreeFrolicking
    FatFreeFrolicking Posts: 4,252 Member
    Carbs make me fat because I have insulin resistance. I don't know whether they make you fat because I have no clue if you have insulin resistance or diabetes, etc. If you don't have those specific medical conditions, carbs won't make you fat. Eating more calories than you burn makes you fat.
  • wheird
    wheird Posts: 7,963 Member
    No. Carbs do not, in and of themselves, make you fat.
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  • albertabeefy
    albertabeefy Posts: 1,169 Member
    Unless you have a medical reason to restrict carbohydrate - ie: insulin-resistance (which could be because of metabolic syndrome, diabetes/pre-diabetes, Hashimoto's Thyroiditis, PCOS, etc.,etc.) there is no reason to avoid dietary carbohydrate. None.

    Eat a good balance of carbohydrate / protein / fat based on your body's needs and activity type/level, ensure you get your vitamins/nutrients, and all is well.
  • ccf_trainer
    ccf_trainer Posts: 86 Member
    Some more than others. It really depends on what you're eating. If you're eating things like white bread, flour-based foods, or starchy foods, and if you eat more than your fair share of them, you are guaranteed to bulk up, but not the way you want. Carbs absorb into your body, and after a while, with very little to no activity, carbs turn into fat. That is something you don't want. If you are going to eat ANY carbs, good or bad, your best bet is to not eat them before bed.

    So, as far as which carbs to eat, you cannot go wrong with fruits and veggies, and you definitely can't go wrong with whole grains. Sweet potatoes and brown rice are great carbs to have. Wheat pasta is another thing, that is, if you like pasta. I'd stay away from the flour-based foods (certain breads, pasta, flour tortillas) and the starchy foods (potatoes and white rice) if you're aiming to lose weight. If you're trying to bulk up, by all means, add starch to your diet, but not if you're trying to lose weight.
  • MrGonzo05
    MrGonzo05 Posts: 1,120 Member
    Carbs are magically delicious
  • It depends on your metabolism, there is no hard and fast rule.

    Over the last 60 years there has been an increased consumption of carbohydrates and a corresponding increase in metabolic syndrome problems (obesity, diabetes, cancer, heart disease, stroke). There has also been an increase in consumption of processed foods which are also high in carbohydrates.

    If you want to dig into the science on this stuff read "Good Calories, Bad Calories" by Gary Taubes. It documents the science and history behind a bunch of the issues around macro nutrients and health. It is highly researched, and it is NOT a diet book, just a book on the history of nutrition and key health issues.

    In terms of which "carbs" you eat it is largely irrelevant, all carbohydrates eaten in quantity cause insulin spikes. In some cases fruit (oranges for example) will cause you as hard an insulin spike as coke. Any time you get your blood sugar above a certain threshold you risk serious health complications (like comas) so your body uses insulin as an emergency valve to keep you alive. Insulin pushes all the nutrients out of your blood into fat, so eating carbs and insulin spiking causes you to gain and retain weight. Insulin also plays hob with your entire biochemistry because it is a biological panic hormone, and drowns out dozens of other hormones. Glycemic Index is a good basic indicator of how hard your insulin will spike eating a food.

    Now the relative part is that some people can eat more carbohydrates without severe long or short term problems, it is entirely dependant on your metabolic reactions to carbohydrates. Some people will have insulin spiking at 20 grams of carbs a day, others can eat 300+ grams a day.

    Anecdotally obesity has been treated with low carbohydrate diets very successfully, with no long term health issues. I for one eat low carb and sometimes ketogenic, I rarely go above 75g of carbohydrates a day, and try to keep it below 50g. I have been low carb for 3 years now, and my blood work is very good, so this works for me. What works for someone else will be different entirely, and you have to figure that out on your own.
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  • badbcatha05
    badbcatha05 Posts: 200 Member
    Too many carbs will make you fat if it puts you over your maintenance level. But so would too much fat or protein if it pushes you over that threshold. Some people cut them because of medical issues. I personally don't eat tons of bread or pasta because I feel like a bag o'crap after (so says the girl who indulged in pizza, breadsticks, and beer last night)... not because I think they are a culprit in the weight gain problem or particularly evil.

    Eat the way that makes you feel the best not because you think one food group is completely villainous.
  • rainbow198
    rainbow198 Posts: 2,245 Member
    Sorry about my post up there...posted on the wrong thread!
  • prattiger65
    prattiger65 Posts: 1,657 Member
    Sorry about my post up there...posted on the wrong thread!

    I'm glad you did. At least one post was useful.
  • AllOutof_Bubblegum
    AllOutof_Bubblegum Posts: 3,646 Member
    The only thing that causes weight gain is a surplus of calories. Simple as that.
  • PJPrimrose
    PJPrimrose Posts: 916 Member
    NO. I would not be able to kick box w/o carbs. I'm getting into shape FOR kick boxing so my diet is around that.
  • MrsRatfire
    MrsRatfire Posts: 102
    I could't help to notice your amazing weight loss. Thank you for posting. Your leg looks great! I also agreed with your answer to the question under consideration. Best Wishes!
  • tgmichelleee
    tgmichelleee Posts: 144 Member
    It depends on your metabolism, there is no hard and fast rule.

    Over the last 60 years there has been an increased consumption of carbohydrates and a corresponding increase in metabolic syndrome problems (obesity, diabetes, cancer, heart disease, stroke). There has also been an increase in consumption of processed foods which are also high in carbohydrates.

    If you want to dig into the science on this stuff read "Good Calories, Bad Calories" by Gary Taubes. It documents the science and history behind a bunch of the issues around macro nutrients and health. It is highly researched, and it is NOT a diet book, just a book on the history of nutrition and key health issues.

    In terms of which "carbs" you eat it is largely irrelevant, all carbohydrates eaten in quantity cause insulin spikes. In some cases fruit (oranges for example) will cause you as hard an insulin spike as coke. Any time you get your blood sugar above a certain threshold you risk serious health complications (like comas) so your body uses insulin as an emergency valve to keep you alive. Insulin pushes all the nutrients out of your blood into fat, so eating carbs and insulin spiking causes you to gain and retain weight. Insulin also plays hob with your entire biochemistry because it is a biological panic hormone, and drowns out dozens of other hormones. Glycemic Index is a good basic indicator of how hard your insulin will spike eating a food.

    Now the relative part is that some people can eat more carbohydrates without severe long or short term problems, it is entirely dependant on your metabolic reactions to carbohydrates. Some people will have insulin spiking at 20 grams of carbs a day, others can eat 300+ grams a day.

    Anecdotally obesity has been treated with low carbohydrate diets very successfully, with no long term health issues. I for one eat low carb and sometimes ketogenic, I rarely go above 75g of carbohydrates a day, and try to keep it below 50g. I have been low carb for 3 years now, and my blood work is very good, so this works for me. What works for someone else will be different entirely, and you have to figure that out on your own.

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  • illuvatree
    illuvatree Posts: 185 Member
    No, like everyone else has said, carbs do not make you fat. If you go too much over your calories, then carbs will contribute to weight gain (or if you're trying to lose, maybe maintenance). But the thing is, cutting carbs out of your diet can make it harder for you to maintain your weight after you've achieved whatever goal you're trying to achieve and want to eat carbs again.
  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    It depends on your metabolism, there is no hard and fast rule.

    Over the last 60 years there has been an increased consumption of carbohydrates and a corresponding increase in metabolic syndrome problems (obesity, diabetes, cancer, heart disease, stroke). There has also been an increase in consumption of processed foods which are also high in carbohydrates.

    If you want to dig into the science on this stuff read "Good Calories, Bad Calories" by Gary Taubes. It documents the science and history behind a bunch of the issues around macro nutrients and health. It is highly researched, and it is NOT a diet book, just a book on the history of nutrition and key health issues.

    In terms of which "carbs" you eat it is largely irrelevant, all carbohydrates eaten in quantity cause insulin spikes. In some cases fruit (oranges for example) will cause you as hard an insulin spike as coke. Any time you get your blood sugar above a certain threshold you risk serious health complications (like comas) so your body uses insulin as an emergency valve to keep you alive. Insulin pushes all the nutrients out of your blood into fat, so eating carbs and insulin spiking causes you to gain and retain weight. Insulin also plays hob with your entire biochemistry because it is a biological panic hormone, and drowns out dozens of other hormones. Glycemic Index is a good basic indicator of how hard your insulin will spike eating a food.

    Now the relative part is that some people can eat more carbohydrates without severe long or short term problems, it is entirely dependant on your metabolic reactions to carbohydrates. Some people will have insulin spiking at 20 grams of carbs a day, others can eat 300+ grams a day.

    Anecdotally obesity has been treated with low carbohydrate diets very successfully, with no long term health issues. I for one eat low carb and sometimes ketogenic, I rarely go above 75g of carbohydrates a day, and try to keep it below 50g. I have been low carb for 3 years now, and my blood work is very good, so this works for me. What works for someone else will be different entirely, and you have to figure that out on your own.

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  • felonebeats
    felonebeats Posts: 433
    No they don't.Eating over your maintenance calories will add fat
  • Sonicz90x
    Sonicz90x Posts: 40 Member
    Yes they do*

    *Protein, fat, and alcohol are also equally to blame. ;)
  • ggluvbug1
    ggluvbug1 Posts: 87 Member
    It depends on your metabolism, there is no hard and fast rule.

    Over the last 60 years there has been an increased consumption of carbohydrates and a corresponding increase in metabolic syndrome problems (obesity, diabetes, cancer, heart disease, stroke). There has also been an increase in consumption of processed foods which are also high in carbohydrates.

    If you want to dig into the science on this stuff read "Good Calories, Bad Calories" by Gary Taubes. It documents the science and history behind a bunch of the issues around macro nutrients and health. It is highly researched, and it is NOT a diet book, just a book on the history of nutrition and key health issues.

    In terms of which "carbs" you eat it is largely irrelevant, all carbohydrates eaten in quantity cause insulin spikes. In some cases fruit (oranges for example) will cause you as hard an insulin spike as coke. Any time you get your blood sugar above a certain threshold you risk serious health complications (like comas) so your body uses insulin as an emergency valve to keep you alive. Insulin pushes all the nutrients out of your blood into fat, so eating carbs and insulin spiking causes you to gain and retain weight. Insulin also plays hob with your entire biochemistry because it is a biological panic hormone, and drowns out dozens of other hormones. Glycemic Index is a good basic indicator of how hard your insulin will spike eating a food.

    Now the relative part is that some people can eat more carbohydrates without severe long or short term problems, it is entirely dependant on your metabolic reactions to carbohydrates. Some people will have insulin spiking at 20 grams of carbs a day, others can eat 300+ grams a day.

    Anecdotally obesity has been treated with low carbohydrate diets very successfully, with no long term health issues. I for one eat low carb and sometimes ketogenic, I rarely go above 75g of carbohydrates a day, and try to keep it below 50g. I have been low carb for 3 years now, and my blood work is very good, so this works for me. What works for someone else will be different entirely, and you have to figure that out on your own.

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    Nope.

    Curious why you so no....this is exactly what my doctor and I have been discussing in regards to my insulin resistance and elevated A1C. Different people do respond to carbs differently.
  • ndj1979
    ndj1979 Posts: 29,136 Member
    It depends on your metabolism, there is no hard and fast rule.

    Over the last 60 years there has been an increased consumption of carbohydrates and a corresponding increase in metabolic syndrome problems (obesity, diabetes, cancer, heart disease, stroke). There has also been an increase in consumption of processed foods which are also high in carbohydrates.

    If you want to dig into the science on this stuff read "Good Calories, Bad Calories" by Gary Taubes. It documents the science and history behind a bunch of the issues around macro nutrients and health. It is highly researched, and it is NOT a diet book, just a book on the history of nutrition and key health issues.

    In terms of which "carbs" you eat it is largely irrelevant, all carbohydrates eaten in quantity cause insulin spikes. In some cases fruit (oranges for example) will cause you as hard an insulin spike as coke. Any time you get your blood sugar above a certain threshold you risk serious health complications (like comas) so your body uses insulin as an emergency valve to keep you alive. Insulin pushes all the nutrients out of your blood into fat, so eating carbs and insulin spiking causes you to gain and retain weight. Insulin also plays hob with your entire biochemistry because it is a biological panic hormone, and drowns out dozens of other hormones. Glycemic Index is a good basic indicator of how hard your insulin will spike eating a food.

    Now the relative part is that some people can eat more carbohydrates without severe long or short term problems, it is entirely dependant on your metabolic reactions to carbohydrates. Some people will have insulin spiking at 20 grams of carbs a day, others can eat 300+ grams a day.

    Anecdotally obesity has been treated with low carbohydrate diets very successfully, with no long term health issues. I for one eat low carb and sometimes ketogenic, I rarely go above 75g of carbohydrates a day, and try to keep it below 50g. I have been low carb for 3 years now, and my blood work is very good, so this works for me. What works for someone else will be different entirely, and you have to figure that out on your own.

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  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    It depends on your metabolism, there is no hard and fast rule.

    Over the last 60 years there has been an increased consumption of carbohydrates and a corresponding increase in metabolic syndrome problems (obesity, diabetes, cancer, heart disease, stroke). There has also been an increase in consumption of processed foods which are also high in carbohydrates.

    If you want to dig into the science on this stuff read "Good Calories, Bad Calories" by Gary Taubes. It documents the science and history behind a bunch of the issues around macro nutrients and health. It is highly researched, and it is NOT a diet book, just a book on the history of nutrition and key health issues.

    In terms of which "carbs" you eat it is largely irrelevant, all carbohydrates eaten in quantity cause insulin spikes. In some cases fruit (oranges for example) will cause you as hard an insulin spike as coke. Any time you get your blood sugar above a certain threshold you risk serious health complications (like comas) so your body uses insulin as an emergency valve to keep you alive. Insulin pushes all the nutrients out of your blood into fat, so eating carbs and insulin spiking causes you to gain and retain weight. Insulin also plays hob with your entire biochemistry because it is a biological panic hormone, and drowns out dozens of other hormones. Glycemic Index is a good basic indicator of how hard your insulin will spike eating a food.

    Now the relative part is that some people can eat more carbohydrates without severe long or short term problems, it is entirely dependant on your metabolic reactions to carbohydrates. Some people will have insulin spiking at 20 grams of carbs a day, others can eat 300+ grams a day.

    Anecdotally obesity has been treated with low carbohydrate diets very successfully, with no long term health issues. I for one eat low carb and sometimes ketogenic, I rarely go above 75g of carbohydrates a day, and try to keep it below 50g. I have been low carb for 3 years now, and my blood work is very good, so this works for me. What works for someone else will be different entirely, and you have to figure that out on your own.

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    Nope.

    Curious why you so no....this is exactly what my doctor and I have been discussing in regards to my insulin resistance and elevated A1C. Different people do respond to carbs differently.

    To make long story short, let's assume everything said until the part where an insulin spike flushes all the macros out of your bloodstream and puts them into fat storages is true, since I don't know the specifics of that and the important part comes afterwards anyway.
    That doesn't make your body stop needing energy to work. Since there's no nutrients in your blood anymore your body has to get them from somewhere else. Like the newly made fat storages from before.
    The energy is needed, no way around it. If the energy is already in your blood or has to be taken from your stores, no (significant) difference.
  • MelsAuntie
    MelsAuntie Posts: 2,833 Member
    Carbs don't make you fat.
    Sugar doesn't make you fat.
    Protein doesn't make you fat.
    Chocolate doesn't make you fat.
    Eating more calories than you burn off makes you fat. Simple as that.
  • felonebeats
    felonebeats Posts: 433
    Carbs don't make you fat.
    Sugar doesn't make you fat.
    Protein doesn't make you fat.
    Chocolate doesn't make you fat.
    Eating more calories than you burn off makes you fat. Simple as that.

    Exactly
  • eric_sg61
    eric_sg61 Posts: 2,925 Member
    Carbs don't make you fat.
    Sugar doesn't make you fat.
    Protein doesn't make you fat.
    Chocolate doesn't make you fat.
    Eating more calories than you burn off makes you fat. Simple as that.
    But, you can't sell books, run blogs, or make Netflix/Youtube documentaries to scare everyone if "something" doesn't make us fat.