Maintaining but always feeling hungry all the time.
Spiderkeys
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The last 2-3 months I've done well, I've kept my hard earned lost weight off, but everyday I felt more hungier and hungier.
I naturally increased by calorie limit everyday, but can't go up much higher, I dont know how much longer I can keep up with this torture lifestyle.
If I return to eating "normally" it will be unthinkable...
I naturally increased by calorie limit everyday, but can't go up much higher, I dont know how much longer I can keep up with this torture lifestyle.
If I return to eating "normally" it will be unthinkable...
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How often do you eat?0
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I cannot imagine how you can maintain on the long run based on the last days on your diary. You need to reconsider what you eat, or it cannot work. 1000 calorie meals and maintaining a healthy weight, it is not something many people can do. Unless you plan to significantly increase your activity (and so increase your calories), you need to change what you eat, or end up regaining, sorry.0
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When I reduce carbs to around 150g a day, I find I am less hungry and have fewer cravings. I think eating high carb adversely affects my blood glucose levels, causing them to yoyo (first too high, then too low which causes the hunger). It especially helps me to have a low carb breakfast.0
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Excercing makes me feel more hungry, then I have dinner and now started eating desserts again, but with the constant feeling I havent eaten enough or haven't eaten at all remains.
The future looks difficult, as are calorie maintainance levels drops down every year as we get older, so we must eat less, but I don't know how by somehow i'm gonna fight it, maybe I'm just not drinking enough water...0 -
I cannot imagine how you can maintain on the long run based on the last days on your diary. You need to reconsider what you eat, or it cannot work. 1000 calorie meals and maintaining a healthy weight, it is not something many people can do. Unless you plan to significantly increase your activity (and so increase your calories), you need to change what you eat, or end up regaining, sorry.
Really? What a load of rubbish! Anyone can easily eat 2 1000 calorie meals and maintain their weight if they maintain on 2000 cals... Simple maths... A sweeping statement of 'eating 1000 calorie meals and maintaining a healthy lifestyle is not something many people can do' is bollocks!
OP what are your stats? your calorie goal is 1900 cals, that's not really a massive amount for a man?0 -
The OP is hungry. Because he eats 2 1000 calorie meals, and then he can eat nothing else. Maybe there are people out there who can eat only twice a day, and who have so small stomachs that calorie-dense junk food will satisfy them. For most, it does not work this way. When half your calories come from a single sandwich, then 500 more come from chips, you are doomed to fail, or be miserable.I cannot imagine how you can maintain on the long run based on the last days on your diary. You need to reconsider what you eat, or it cannot work. 1000 calorie meals and maintaining a healthy weight, it is not something many people can do. Unless you plan to significantly increase your activity (and so increase your calories), you need to change what you eat, or end up regaining, sorry.
Really? What a load of rubbish! Anyone can easily eat 2 1000 calorie meals and maintain their weight if they maintain on 2000 cals... Simple maths... A sweeping statement of 'eating 1000 calorie meals and maintaining a healthy lifestyle is not something many people can do' is bollocks!
OP what are your stats? your calorie goal is 1900 cals, that's not really a massive amount for a man?
And swearing does not make ignorant comments more valid, sorry
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The OP is hungry. Because he eats 2 1000 calorie meals, and then he can eat nothing else. Maybe there are people out there who can eat only twice a day, and who have so small stomachs that calorie-dense junk food will satisfy them. For most, it does not work this way. When half your calories come from a single sandwich, then 500 more come from chips, you are doomed to fail, or be miserable.I cannot imagine how you can maintain on the long run based on the last days on your diary. You need to reconsider what you eat, or it cannot work. 1000 calorie meals and maintaining a healthy weight, it is not something many people can do. Unless you plan to significantly increase your activity (and so increase your calories), you need to change what you eat, or end up regaining, sorry.
Really? What a load of rubbish! Anyone can easily eat 2 1000 calorie meals and maintain their weight if they maintain on 2000 cals... Simple maths... A sweeping statement of 'eating 1000 calorie meals and maintaining a healthy lifestyle is not something many people can do' is bollocks!
OP what are your stats? your calorie goal is 1900 cals, that's not really a massive amount for a man?
And swearing does not make ignorant comments more valid, sorry
So IF is ignorant.... Interesting point of view....0 -
The OP is hungry. Because he eats 2 1000 calorie meals, and then he can eat nothing else. Maybe there are people out there who can eat only twice a day, and who have so small stomachs that calorie-dense junk food will satisfy them. For most, it does not work this way. When half your calories come from a single sandwich, then 500 more come from chips, you are doomed to fail, or be miserable.I cannot imagine how you can maintain on the long run based on the last days on your diary. You need to reconsider what you eat, or it cannot work. 1000 calorie meals and maintaining a healthy weight, it is not something many people can do. Unless you plan to significantly increase your activity (and so increase your calories), you need to change what you eat, or end up regaining, sorry.
Really? What a load of rubbish! Anyone can easily eat 2 1000 calorie meals and maintain their weight if they maintain on 2000 cals... Simple maths... A sweeping statement of 'eating 1000 calorie meals and maintaining a healthy lifestyle is not something many people can do' is bollocks!
OP what are your stats? your calorie goal is 1900 cals, that's not really a massive amount for a man?
And swearing does not make ignorant comments more valid, sorry
So IF is ignorant.... Interesting point of view....
I replied to the OP why he is hungry. You are probably confusing me for someone into paleo, clean eating or whatever and attacked me without even bothering to see what I am replying to. You took something out of context, added a few swear words, and this was supposed to intimidate me or whatever. Since high school is a distant memory, it does not work this way, sorry.
Yes, the OP can have whatever he likes to eat, and the occasional 5000 calorie party and do great. What he cannot do is choose a junk-food based 2-meal a day lifestyle, maintain and feel full. Not possible.
See, you can disagree with someone without calling names, lots of people do it 0 -
Try upping your protein levels that really helps me feel fuller 0
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The OP is hungry. Because he eats 2 1000 calorie meals, and then he can eat nothing else. Maybe there are people out there who can eat only twice a day, and who have so small stomachs that calorie-dense junk food will satisfy them. For most, it does not work this way. When half your calories come from a single sandwich, then 500 more come from chips, you are doomed to fail, or be miserable.I cannot imagine how you can maintain on the long run based on the last days on your diary. You need to reconsider what you eat, or it cannot work. 1000 calorie meals and maintaining a healthy weight, it is not something many people can do. Unless you plan to significantly increase your activity (and so increase your calories), you need to change what you eat, or end up regaining, sorry.
Really? What a load of rubbish! Anyone can easily eat 2 1000 calorie meals and maintain their weight if they maintain on 2000 cals... Simple maths... A sweeping statement of 'eating 1000 calorie meals and maintaining a healthy lifestyle is not something many people can do' is bollocks!
OP what are your stats? your calorie goal is 1900 cals, that's not really a massive amount for a man?
And swearing does not make ignorant comments more valid, sorry
So IF is ignorant.... Interesting point of view....
I replied to the OP why he is hungry. You are probably confusing me for someone into paleo, clean eating or whatever and attacked me without even bothering to see what I am replying to. You took something out of context, added a few swear words, and this was supposed to intimidate me or whatever. Since high school is a distant memory, it does not work this way, sorry.
Yes, the OP can have whatever he likes to eat, and the occasional 5000 calorie party and do great. What he cannot do is choose a junk-food based 2-meal a day lifestyle, maintain and feel full. Not possible.
See, you can disagree with someone without calling names, lots of people do it
Sorry but no one called names...nothing was taken out of context...
IF is a viable choice for some...and it's not when the OP eats...
OP yes 1900 is not even my maintenance and I am a 40 year old women...mine is around 2300....
Another thing I noticed is your protien is very low...under 90 grams typically. Try increasing your protien to feel fuller longer.
ETA: and you really didn't address the hunger just when he ate and that it "wouldn't work" which is incorrect...0 -
I cannot imagine how you can maintain on the long run based on the last days on your diary. You need to reconsider what you eat, or it cannot work. 1000 calorie meals and maintaining a healthy weight, it is not something many people can do. Unless you plan to significantly increase your activity (and so increase your calories), you need to change what you eat, or end up regaining, sorry.
Really? What a load of rubbish! Anyone can easily eat 2 1000 calorie meals and maintain their weight if they maintain on 2000 cals... Simple maths... A sweeping statement of 'eating 1000 calorie meals and maintaining a healthy lifestyle is not something many people can do' is bollocks!
OP what are your stats? your calorie goal is 1900 cals, that's not really a massive amount for a man?
I was thinking this too …0 -
OP - did you have this problem when you were in a deficit and losing weight? Also, your maintenance level calories seem low. I am 34 male and a 500 per day deficit for me is just about 2100 to 2200….so I am actually eating less then you and cutting...0
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I had a quick look at your diary, and didn't see any leafy green vegs (e.g. spinach, kale, etc), only a few root vegs, like carrots.
You might try adding more vegs to your dinner and lunch. Without adding many calories, you'll get good nutritional benefits, along with some bulk/fiber to help you feel full for longer.0 -
I have the mindset I'm improving or getting worse. Maintaining doesn't seem like an envious position for me.
If you lift, try bulking and then cutting. It gives you chunks of time on both sides of the fence.0 -
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In the past few weeks you've messed around with your calorie allowance and not settled anywhere for long enough to see what actually works. You've already said you don't weigh your food so how do you know what you are eating? I agree with adding more protein and fibre. Pick a calorie goal and stick with it religiously for a good few weeks to see what is happening and go from there0
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Skimming through some of the conversations going on about your food diary, it seems to me that you're just eating two meals a day? You may have to consider (if you can) spreading meals throughout the day, of course then they can't be 1000 calories each anymore. Hopefully then you won't be in a constant state of hunger. 0
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Not sure if you cook for yourself or not, however that is one way to better control your intake and balance. Also if you do just eat out, selecting items that are toward the protein/fiber end is better than loading up on carbs. You seem to have a sedentary lifestyle, which is fine, but it does mean that you have less calories per day to eat.
Spread out how you are eating... for example set up your diary like such:
Breakfast
mid morn snack
Lunch
mid afternoon snack
Dinner
Post dinner snack
Try to spread things out a bit too, so that you don't get a roller coaster feeling of hungry/full and end up over eating calories.
Green veggies and lean meat (chicken) are your friend. Biscuits, chips, bread and the like I have found just make me crave more of the same and don't have me feeling full.
Set up a calorie goal, balance your intake, and track for 3-4 weeks to see where your food intake has you heading.
It's a slow process, doesn't occur overnight. Good luck!0 -
Had the exact same problem on a 200-300kcal deficit. I started researching because I was worried I was doing something wrong, and indeed I was.
Simple carbs and saturated fat make you feel full for 30-120min. Longer than that, and you feel like you could eat a dragon alive. It's annoying as hell
My solution was to start focusing on complex carbs, protein, non-saturated fats and fiber whenever possible. Since then, I have days when I don't feel hungry, even with a daily deficit of around 400kcal. Those days when I eat pastry, sugary drinks or saturated fats is when the hunger creeps back. I stopped eating cookies altogether just because of that.
The glycemic index of different carbs and the fact that saturated fats do not activate one of the hormones tied to satiety are what was making me feel hungry all the time. Fiber also helps to slow down the digestive process, and I really love the result. I don't feel those energy spikes anymore whenever I eat, which I'm now able to notice whenever I eat out and have no "healthy" options to choose.
This article is a good starting point to read more:
http://nutritiondata.self.com/topics/fullness-factor0 -
Hey, my friend. What did you learn about maintenance while you were losing?The last 2-3 months I've done well, I've kept my hard earned lost weight off, but everyday I felt more hungier and hungier.
I naturally increased by calorie limit everyday, but can't go up much higher, I dont know how much longer I can keep up with this torture lifestyle.
If I return to eating "normally" it will be unthinkable...
I remember I couldn't get you to eat 1500 calories to save my life. What's changed? It kinda looks like the types of stuff you're eating has changed somewhat.
Could you try going back to what you were eating before, but just eating portions that are about 1/4 larger? I betcha you would feel fuller on that.0 -
OP, 1900 seems really low for maintenence for a man. I'm 5'4", 127 lbs and bulking, and I'm going to go DOWN to around 1900 when I cut in a month or two.
The only reason to look at meal timing/size is for personal preference. You absolutely can eat two 1000 calorie meals and maintain (if your maintenence is 2000/day), as long as that works for your lifestyle and keeps you satiated. Some people get very dogmatic about the "you HAVE to eat 4-5 small meals a day" concept, but that just doesn't work for everyone.0 -
I actually looked at a lot of your diaries. I net a lot less than that and I'm 5'10".
Many of the things you eat and snack on are very high glycemic - they are easy to digest. They may be healthy - bananas, apples, etc. - but all that white flour and fruit is going to spike your blood sugar. This causes insulin spikes. Then you get really hungry. You've lost a lot of weight and you look about my age, so I'm going to guess you may be more insulin resistant than a 20 year old who has always been thin.
I am going to suggest sticking at your calories and dropping your carbs down to 35-40%. Make those carbs less refined. So drop the white bread and go rye or (real) whole wheat or quinoa. Brown not white rice. No potatoes, etc. Bananas are also super easy to digest and high glycemic too.
Those nuts and other snacks are great. Stick more of that in or some healthy granola or some boiled eggs.
Take that subway sandwich apart and eat the guts and throw away at least half the roll.
Try it for a week and see if you're less hungry. It really makes a huge difference for me.0 -
You will feel a lot better if you eat more protein and fat, along with veggies.
I know in the past, you said you can't cook much. I'm not sure if you don't know how, or don't have the time or resources. But, you should try because it will solve your problem. What I do is Sunday is usually the day I cook my meals for the week. I put them in containers, and then I have lunch and dinner all week.
This is very good advice!0 -
Hi
Well done for posting and asking for help. I had a quick look at your diary - a few things;-
- some of the cals seem high 182 cals for a banana?
- what about trying protein shakes after your workout?
- are you drinking enough water?
- it may help to distribute your cals over 4 meals instead of 2 high cal meals. Maybe you like 2 big meals a day - My husband does but until you feel more on top of things 4 equal sized meals might be helpful.
Best of luck!0 -
could you eat more protein to help with the craving? more peanuts, nuts, seeds, chicken, etc? when I eat more protein I find that I am not always hungry or craving after about a week. Good luck to you0
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The last 2-3 months I've done well, I've kept my hard earned lost weight off, but everyday I felt more hungier and hungier.
I naturally increased by calorie limit everyday, but can't go up much higher, I dont know how much longer I can keep up with this torture lifestyle.
If I return to eating "normally" it will be unthinkable...
You are eating high carb and low fat. I think you are getting blood sugar disregulation. You should switch to 1 gr of protein per lb of LBM and try to eat 100-150 grams of net carbs per day. Then get the rest of your calories from fats. This will level out your blood glucose.0 -
Try adjusting your macros (more protein and healthy fats) and other stuff like more fibre possibly less sugar (including fruit - one day I saw you had 7 apples!), more nutrient-dense food, etc.
And yes that seems quite a low maintenance calorie goal.0 -
You are eating very little protein and a load of carbs every day....Up your protein and cut out some of the junk carbs...Also - I am female, 5'8 and 179 and in my mid forties - and I maintain on 1900-2100 - you might need more....0
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I think 7 apples in a day is a self-correcting problem. :laugh: But I don't really get saying more fiber and then in the same breath telling him to eat less fruit. Fruit is a good source. Yes, leafy greens, blah blah blah, but I live in the real world, where some people simply will not eat them. So, I pick my battles. I'm just happy he eats plants.Try adjusting your macros (more protein and healthy fats) and other stuff like more fibre possibly less sugar (including fruit - one day I saw you had 7 apples!), more nutrient-dense food, etc.
And yes that seems quite a low maintenance calorie goal.
There is a common theme here, though, Spiderkeys, so I hope you're paying attention to all these people-- the common thread is ¡más proteínas y grasas saludables!
Work some more meat and more nuts (giggity) and maybe some avocado into your diet. Just try it for a little while and see how it feels.0 -
Have you tried eating more protein, and eating every few hours? Your diet choices are not sustainable for you, if you feel that it is torture. Try something else before you give up. Have you also looked into strength training?0
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