Eating fruits and vegetables isn't filling enough?

jordanparker1994

So I am in the process of trying to treat something which is called 'Leaky Gut Syndrome' - Now there is still a lot of debate whether this condition even exists or not but I believe this is what I have seeming as I tick almost all of the boxes when it comes down supposed symptoms.

The diet involves keeping away from Wheat and Dairy, this is an adamant rule. Taking to a next level would be avoiding vegetables and fruits from the Night Shade family and all Grains. I am trying this but I get these intense pangs of hunger which makes Fish and Salad just not fulfilling enough as a meal, night time is the worse because I lose all sense of reason and just start eating a whole lot of junk, like ice cream anything which can fill me up.

What diet plan or tips could someone recommend so that I could avoid certain foods and yet feel full enough?

hozik

I'm not familiar with this particular elimination diet. Are you able to eat beans? They can be quite filling. Are fats permitted? Perhaps adding avocado, nuts or seeds to your meals will make them more satisfying. Best of luck to you.

EmilyTwist1

Sounds a lot like a Paleo Auto-immune Protocol. Same foods eliminated and such. For more filling foods in general, meat and fats should do the trick. If you want some more specific meal ideas, check out Sarah Ballantyne's blog, The Paleo Mom. She has tons of recipes that fit the restrictions you have.

http://www.thepaleomom.com/

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EmilyTwist1

For more filling foods in general, meat and fats should do the trick.

How's that supposed to help with leaky gut? lol.

OP. i second what hozik said. Avocados and sometimes nuts or seeds can really make the difference. How much fruit are you eating? Fish and salad wont cut it. Fruit will help you fill your stomach up, and give you more calories. That will help you to avoid the binging later.

The OP never said they needed to avoid meats or fats. And neither leaky gut elimination diets, nor auto-immue paleo eliminate meat or fats, with the exception of vegetable and hydrogenated oils. The OP asked for food ideas that were filling and not on their elimination list. Meats and fats fit that bill.

tierra85

So I am in the process of trying to treat something which is called 'Leaky Gut Syndrome' - Now there is still a lot of debate whether this condition even exists or not but I believe this is what I have seeming as I tick almost all of the boxes when it comes down supposed symptoms.

The diet involves keeping away from Wheat and Dairy, this is an adamant rule. Taking to a next level would be avoiding vegetables and fruits from the Night Shade family and all Grains. I am trying this but I get these intense pangs of hunger which makes Fish and Salad just not fulfilling enough as a meal, night time is the worse because I lose all sense of reason and just start eating a whole lot of junk, like ice cream anything which can fill me up.

What diet plan or tips could someone recommend so that I could avoid certain foods and yet feel full enough?

Heyyy me too!!! All of the above. I live off smoothies pretty much. I do eat canyon bakehouse gluten free 7 grain bread though. I can't give up my egg and piece of toast in the morning (and oats, quinoa and rice *hides*). Once you master it all teach me your ways!!!

cpdiminish

You know, the medical community and scientists have tried to find evidence that Leaky Gut Syndrome exists and they haven't found any. I'm not saying that the digestive system can't be damaged in many ways, but I'd question anyone who told me that was my diagnosis.

Avoiding gluten and dairy would be called an elimination diet. Those two are some of the most common food intolerances, and both can cause the digestive system to become damaged or to not function properly. But just avoiding gluten and lactose would not be the proper treatment for leaky gut syndrome if it did exist.

Having had to figure out my own food intolerances and causes for digestive issues, I do recommend that anyone who has digestive issues of any sort try to figure out if specific foods are causing them. But you don't have to do the hard-core elimination diets that take out everything for long periods of time and add them back in one at a time. Google the term "rotation diet" for another way to determine food issues that is still effective, but keeps some variety in your diet and isn't so difficult to stick to.

You may also want to get tested for vitamin and mineral deficiencies. B12 deficiencies are fairly common though doctors rarely test for them, and the first symptom is abdominal pain. It can start out pretty small, get pretty severe, and come and go. The U.S. medical system says that B12 levels below 200 is a deficiency, but the labs will alert you that you can have symptoms if your levels are anywhere below 400, and other countries have much higher numbers for their minimum normal range. Japan's minimum is 500. So if you do get tested, get the results of your tests from your doctor. B12 deficiencies are really easy to treat, but the supplements are all synthetic and do have side effects.

If you do have deficiencies, you'd still have to look for a cause. Food intolerances are one of the possible causes because they can cause malabsorption. Vegans are also susceptible to B12 deficiencies because the only natural form of digestible B12 comes from animal products. Every other source is either supplements or foods fortified with synthetic B12.

The paleo diet is actually adopted by many people who have gluten intolerance because skipping carbs also skips most of the gluten-filled foods. There is also something called a FODMAP diet which is supposed to help with other intolerances - I think I remember fructose intolerance being connected to that, but it wasn't the only one.

In addition to putting gluten and lactose on your radar, fructose, nightshades, and alliums are also fairly common intolerances. And people who have one intolerance, often have a few.

I have to warn you that gluten would be a tough one to eliminate entirely because it isn't just food that can be contaminated, but any kitchen utensil that has ever touched gluten, such as wooden cutting boards or plastic spatulas, even non-stick cookware. And you probably don't want to go gluten free before getting tested for an intolerance because you have to be consuming gluten for celiac tests to work. But they only have tests for celiac, not other gluten intolerances ... yet. Gluten is also addictive so going on and off of it does have withdrawal symptoms that make you feel pretty lousy for at least a few days, some people up to two weeks.

The good news is that the medical community is starting to study food intolerances more so someday we won't have to be mollified with meaningless diagnosis such as Irritable Bowel Syndrome or Leaky Gut Syndrome. The bad news is that the research has only started recently and isn't widespread, mainly because there is no profit for pharmaceutical companies to study something that doesn't use drugs as a cure.

If you want filling - is rice still on the menu? Quinoa? Gluten-free pastas are pretty easy to find as well. And if you are still eating potatoes, definitely only buy organic. Non-organic potatoes have huge amounts of pesticide residue and they are sprayed with other chemicals to keep buds from growing. Double whammy on the toxins. I think they are number one on the list of foods farmers won't eat.

Best of luck to you.

MarisaShickel

I don't know much about your syndrome (other than what you said) but I find the key to feeling full and satisfied is protein. Try increasing the amount of protein you eat and see if that helps you feel more full You mentioned eating fish, what about chicken or eggs? Also like others said beans will fill you up. I add black beans or chick peas to my salads. Avocados are a great addition to meals and salads.

It might also be worth looking into protein powder. Many protein powders are whey based but they make some that are dairy free. Blend up some powder with water and frozen fruit and you have a quick smoothie for when you're really hungry.

I did a quick google search for nightshades because I was unfamiliar with them and I also found the website thepaleomom.com. It appears she had issues with nightshades as well. Might be a helpful resource. It looks like she even wrote a book.

Good luck!

yellowlemoned

I won't pretend to know anything medically regarding you symptoms and I didn't see anything saying meat and fat we off limits, so here's my suggestion. When I make veggies I sometimes add a little bit of chicken to them, it gives them enough substance to fill me up and keep me from getting hungry within an hour or two. I also add chicken and nuts to salads, and sometimes fruit, it gives it that extra bit of weight to keep me full.

bcattoes

So I am in the process of trying to treat something which is called 'Leaky Gut Syndrome' - Now there is still a lot of debate whether this condition even exists or not but I believe this is what I have seeming as I tick almost all of the boxes when it comes down supposed symptoms.

See a doctor! Seriously, dont rely on diet promoting web sites for medical advice.