Calories and double dipping? When does this happen?

aniazawadzki

Hi all so I posted another post nd I have been doing a lot of research on tdee and net calories I saw. Lot of double dipping remarks and I m wondering if why I m doing is double dippin? I am trying to maintain so I placed my tdee to be sedentary nd my net calories to be sedentary. They both equal out to be 1462 calories per day. I wlk on the treadmill daily burning 300 calories. I consume 1500, assuming I burnt off the 300 making it to be 1200 calories. I save the extra 260 (from it equaling out to be 1460 according to my tdee nd net calories) for the weekend so that i can consume an extra 900 calories on weekends. Does this work or is it double dipping? Sorry if this is confusing but it's been driving me nuts! Lol

Aaron_K123

Hi all so I posted another post nd I have been doing a lot of research on tdee and net calories I saw. Lot of double dipping remarks and I m wondering if why I m doing is double dippin? I am trying to maintain so I placed my tdee to be sedentary nd my net calories to be sedentary. They both equal out to be 1462 calories per day. I wlk on the treadmill daily burning 300 calories. I consume 1500, assuming I burnt off the 300 making it to be 1200 calories. I save the extra 260 (from it equaling out to be 1460 according to my tdee nd net calories) for the weekend so that i can consume an extra 900 calories on weekends. Does this work or is it double dipping? Sorry if this is confusing but it's been driving me nuts! Lol

I think the confusion stems from your misuse of terms. TDEE, or total daily energy expenditure, is your total caloric burn for everything you do which includes exercise. If you told someone your TDEE and said on top of that you eat back your calories from exercise they would think you were "double dipping" because by saying 1460 is your TDEE you imply that already includes the amount you burned from exercise.

There are three terms out there you should learn the meanings of so you can more efficiently communicate on these forums:

BMR: Basal metabolic rate, the amount of calories you would burn if you were in a coma
NEAT: Non-exercise activity thermogenesis. This is your BMR plus any caloric burn from your standard daily activities. When you set your activity to "sedentary" you are getting your NEAT value (not your TDEE)
TDEE: Total daily energy expenditure. This is your NEAT + Exercise burn that you do. Its everything and if you ate your TDEE you would maintain your weight (think of TDEE as defined as the amount of calories at which your weight would be maintained).

So your issue stems from calling what is fact your NEAT your TDEE which confuses people.

Also 1462 sounds VERY low for a NEAT value, are you sure that isn't your BMR? NEAT for a sedentary person is still typically 300 calories above a BMR which, if your NEAT is 1460 at sedentary would imply your BMR was something like 1160 which seems very low. Are you a petite woman? 4'11'' and not very overweight?

aniazawadzki

Hi all so I posted another post nd I have been doing a lot of research on tdee and net calories I saw. Lot of double dipping remarks and I m wondering if why I m doing is double dippin? I am trying to maintain so I placed my tdee to be sedentary nd my net calories to be sedentary. They both equal out to be 1462 calories per day. I wlk on the treadmill daily burning 300 calories. I consume 1500, assuming I burnt off the 300 making it to be 1200 calories. I save the extra 260 (from it equaling out to be 1460 according to my tdee nd net calories) for the weekend so that i can consume an extra 900 calories on weekends. Does this work or is it double dipping? Sorry if this is confusing but it's been driving me nuts! Lol

I think the confusion stems from your misuse of terms. TDEE, or total daily energy expenditure, is your total caloric burn for everything you do which includes exercise. If you told someone your TDEE and said on top of that you eat back your calories from exercise they would think you were "double dipping" because by saying 1460 is your TDEE you imply that already includes the amount you burned from exercise.

There are three terms out there you should learn the meanings of so you can more efficiently communicate on these forums:

BMR: Basal metabolic rate, the amount of calories you would burn if you were in a coma
NEAT: Non-exercise activity thermogenesis. This is your BMR plus any caloric burn from your standard daily activities. When you set your activity to "sedentary" you are getting your NEAT value (not your TDEE)
TDEE: Total daily energy expenditure. This is your NEAT + Exercise burn that you do. Its everything and if you ate your TDEE you would maintain your weight (think of TDEE as defined as the amount of calories at which your weight would be maintained).

So your issue stems from calling what is fact your NEAT your TDEE which confuses people.

Also 1462 sounds VERY low for a NEAT value, are you sure that isn't your BMR? NEAT for a sedentary person is still typically 300 calories above a BMR which, if your NEAT is 1460 at sedentary would imply your BMR was something like 1160 which seems very low. Are you a petite woman? 4'11'' and not very overweight?

So with neat you can manipulate the calories by adding exercise? And with tdee it is already set in stone by including daily exercises? I am 96 lbs and 5'6 lol so I guess it makes sense to have a lower neat unfortunately less food

thavoice

Hi all so I posted another post nd I have been doing a lot of research on tdee and net calories I saw. Lot of double dipping remarks and I m wondering if why I m doing is double dippin? I am trying to maintain so I placed my tdee to be sedentary nd my net calories to be sedentary. They both equal out to be 1462 calories per day. I wlk on the treadmill daily burning 300 calories. I consume 1500, assuming I burnt off the 300 making it to be 1200 calories. I save the extra 260 (from it equaling out to be 1460 according to my tdee nd net calories) for the weekend so that i can consume an extra 900 calories on weekends. Does this work or is it double dipping? Sorry if this is confusing but it's been driving me nuts! Lol

I think the confusion stems from your misuse of terms. TDEE, or total daily energy expenditure, is your total caloric burn for everything you do which includes exercise. If you told someone your TDEE and said on top of that you eat back your calories from exercise they would think you were "double dipping" because by saying 1460 is your TDEE you imply that already includes the amount you burned from exercise.

There are three terms out there you should learn the meanings of so you can more efficiently communicate on these forums:

BMR: Basal metabolic rate, the amount of calories you would burn if you were in a coma
NEAT: Non-exercise activity thermogenesis. This is your BMR plus any caloric burn from your standard daily activities. When you set your activity to "sedentary" you are getting your NEAT value (not your TDEE)
TDEE: Total daily energy expenditure. This is your NEAT + Exercise burn that you do. Its everything and if you ate your TDEE you would maintain your weight (think of TDEE as defined as the amount of calories at which your weight would be maintained).

So your issue stems from calling what is fact your NEAT your TDEE which confuses people.

Also 1462 sounds VERY low for a NEAT value, are you sure that isn't your BMR? NEAT for a sedentary person is still typically 300 calories above a BMR which, if your NEAT is 1460 at sedentary would imply your BMR was something like 1160 which seems very low. Are you a petite woman? 4'11'' and not very overweight?

So with neat you can manipulate the calories by adding exercise? And with tdee it is already set in stone by including daily exercises? I am 96 lbs and 5'6 lol so I guess it makes sense to have a lower neat unfortunately less food

5'6" and 98 lbs sounds like you need a cheeseburger.


and some ice cream

loubidy

5'6 and 98lbs?!?!?!!!

Aaron_K123

So with neat you can manipulate the calories by adding exercise? And with tdee it is already set in stone by including daily exercises? I am 96 lbs and 5'6 lol so I guess it makes sense to have a lower neat unfortunately less food

NEAT is your burn due to regular activity and your BMR not including exercise while TDEE is everything including exercise. I really doubt 1460 calories is your TDEE, I think at 5'6 that is your BMR. A young 5'6 woman who exercises probably has a TDEE upwards of 2000 calories not 1400.

At 5'6 and 96 pounds you are also in the wrong forum. This is the weight loss forum, you want the weight gain forum which is two forums down.

Diza114

Tagging for reference, thanks for posting.