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kmalacho
kmalacho Posts: 16 Member
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There was a well-written article in Nature this week regarding the importance of protein in our diet and how processed foods subvert our body's sensors to judge protein levels.

"Processed foods that dilute protein content subvert our appetite control systems" by Stephen J. Simpson and David Raubenheimer.

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v508/n7496_supp/full/508S66a.html

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  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,020 Member
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    Interesting hypothesis. If in fact protein has declined and the consumption of carbs and fat is the result of the increase in calorie consumption, this could have some merit as far as satiation is concerned, especially considering fat is pretty negligible in satiety.
  • _benjammin
    _benjammin Posts: 1,224 Member
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    ... especially considering fat is pretty negligible in satiety.
    That's debatable.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK53550/
    "...fats do have an effect on satiety and appear to regulate appetite through several mechanisms including the release of appetite hormones and inhibition of gastric emptying and intestinal transit..."

    Thanks for link OP, interesting read indeed.
  • QuietBloom
    QuietBloom Posts: 5,413 Member
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    Very interesting OP, thanks for posting!
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,020 Member
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    ... especially considering fat is pretty negligible in satiety.
    That's debatable.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK53550/
    "...fats do have an effect on satiety and appear to regulate appetite through several mechanisms including the release of appetite hormones and inhibition of gastric emptying and intestinal transit..."

    Thanks for link OP, interesting read indeed.
    Thanks for the link. All foods will have mechanisms that initiate satiety, but fat from at least my research seems to be pretty low compared to the same calorie value's of protein and complex carbs and the thermic effect of fat is pretty much nil.....could have something to do with volume of food, I'm not sure.
  • Jruzer
    Jruzer Posts: 3,501 Member
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    Interesting read. Thanks OP!

    Gotta love the first sentence that begins "The weight of evidence indicates..."
  • shields1847
    shields1847 Posts: 14 Member
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    ... especially considering fat is pretty negligible in satiety.
    That's debatable.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK53550/
    "...fats do have an effect on satiety and appear to regulate appetite through several mechanisms including the release of appetite hormones and inhibition of gastric emptying and intestinal transit..."

    Thanks for link OP, interesting read indeed.
    Thanks for the link. All foods will have mechanisms that initiate satiety, but fat from at least my research seems to be pretty low compared to the same calorie value's of protein and complex carbs and the thermic effect of fat is pretty much nil.....could have something to do with volume of food, I'm not sure.

    please cite your research.
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,020 Member
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    ... especially considering fat is pretty negligible in satiety.
    That's debatable.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK53550/
    "...fats do have an effect on satiety and appear to regulate appetite through several mechanisms including the release of appetite hormones and inhibition of gastric emptying and intestinal transit..."

    Thanks for link OP, interesting read indeed.
    Thanks for the link. All foods will have mechanisms that initiate satiety, but fat from at least my research seems to be pretty low compared to the same calorie value's of protein and complex carbs and the thermic effect of fat is pretty much nil.....could have something to do with volume of food, I'm not sure.

    please cite your research.
    There's lots but here's one that I googled up quickly. http://www.colorado.edu/intphys/Class/IPHY3700_Greene/pdfs/hunger_satiety/gerstein2003.pdf
  • UpEarly
    UpEarly Posts: 2,555 Member
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    Fascinating article!

    This is interesting research, too: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK53550/

    I've always felt better and been more satisfied on higher fat diets. Maybe it's the kinds of fat I eat. Maybe it's the fact that most of my exercise is hiking, and fat is a good energy source. Maybe there's something to the phenotypes they cite in conclusions.
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,020 Member
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    Fascinating article!

    This is interesting research, too: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK53550/

    I've always felt better and been more satisfied on higher fat diets. Maybe it's the kinds of fat I eat. Maybe it's the fact that most of my exercise is hiking, and fat is a good energy source. Maybe there's something to the phenotypes they cite in conclusions.
    I think you'll find this article is the same as the one the op linked to.
  • shields1847
    shields1847 Posts: 14 Member
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    ... especially considering fat is pretty negligible in satiety.
    That's debatable.
    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK53550/
    "...fats do have an effect on satiety and appear to regulate appetite through several mechanisms including the release of appetite hormones and inhibition of gastric emptying and intestinal transit..."

    Thanks for link OP, interesting read indeed.
    Thanks for the link. All foods will have mechanisms that initiate satiety, but fat from at least my research seems to be pretty low compared to the same calorie value's of protein and complex carbs and the thermic effect of fat is pretty much nil.....could have something to do with volume of food, I'm not sure.

    please cite your research.
    There's lots but here's one that I googled up quickly. http://www.colorado.edu/intphys/Class/IPHY3700_Greene/pdfs/hunger_satiety/gerstein2003.pdf

    From your article "there is less clear consensus
    regarding the relative satiety values of carbohydrates
    and fats." Now I agree that protein has a higher satiety but I don't think there is one between carbs or fats as the article stated, even complex ones.
  • tennisdude2004
    tennisdude2004 Posts: 5,609 Member
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    Interesting article.
  • UpEarly
    UpEarly Posts: 2,555 Member
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    Fascinating article!

    This is interesting research, too: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK53550/

    I've always felt better and been more satisfied on higher fat diets. Maybe it's the kinds of fat I eat. Maybe it's the fact that most of my exercise is hiking, and fat is a good energy source. Maybe there's something to the phenotypes they cite in conclusions.
    I think you'll find this article is the same as the one the op linked to.

    I think you'll find the the original poster (OP) only posted the one link to the article in Nature magazine. Another poster followed up with the same research I cited, but I hadn't read all the responses and was only replying to the OP with my personal experiences. What's the issue?

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