Soda- good, bad, or just ugly?

mactaffy84

So, I was wondering about sodas. Both diet and regular. My thought is that they are not very good for us. People seem to feel that only scientific studies from peer-reviewed journals are a basis for making such a determination, so I've included some that I came across. Seems like sodas might be not,so,healthy.

Any thoughts?


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HerkMeOff

:indifferent: :indifferent:

SomeNights246

Just like all things - moderation is key. Thing with the internet is you can, really, pull up studies to argue any opinion.

I used to drink 1-2 two liters of doctor pepper a day. I gained a lot of weight doing so. That's... a LOT of calories. However, if you drink just 1 small bottle of dr pepper a day, that's only about 200 calories (give or take) and can be fit into the average diet without any consequences. Although, caffeine is addicting, so it's tough to limit it to one bottle.

Soda obviously isn't the most nutritious drink. But common sense goes a long way.

I'll just stay here and drink my diet Mountain Dew and enjoy it, too.

prattiger65

My thoughts are, I wish I weren't so lazy. If I weren't so lazy, I would post studies that say they are just fine in moderation. But alas, I am lazy. But good luck to you!

snazzyjazzy21

Excessive consumption of anything is bad for you. I drink diet once a week and I'm not dead yet...

Forty6and2

I drink Coke Zero all the time

kgeyser

I think that if you believe sodas are unhealthy and don't want to drink them, then don't drink them.

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SpencersHeart

Are you trying to convince yourself that sodas are unhealthy?

tquill

Excessive consumption of anything is bad for you. I drink diet once a week and I'm not dead yet...

Yet... someday when you're between 80-100 years old... BAM! Then we'll know the soda was bad.

In all seriousness... just looking at the first study:

"Sugar drinks have been linked to poor diet quality, weight gain, obesity, and, in adults, type 2 diabetes"

I'm inclined to think a lot of unhealthy people also drink soda... along with a bad diet. What about comparing healthy individuals that drink it vs healthy individuals that don't?

Also, correlation doesn't prove causation.

walk757

Definitely ugly, give the soda up!

Smirnoff65

I work for a company that makes soda drinks for a lot of the major companies such as CocaCola and GSK (Lucozade) the amount of sugar in the form of glucose that I see going in to their mixes has put me off drinking their products at all, I do admit though I am partial to Coke Zero even with all the chemicals that go in to it.

AndreaFitness

Just don't drink soda, period. It's not natural. Straight up chemicals.

takumaku

The caffeine, carbonation, and acid in soda is very bad for me. Had to wean myself off of pop/soda because of Crohn's/Ulcers.

nikkineidigh

I drink nothing but water for nearly twelve months. I have stopped drinking pop before I started zumba. I am still on a diet, I still drink water

Sbrn_

Ugly.

They're not good or bad. If you like them drink them, if you don't don't. I very rarely do but that's only because I hate fizzy things.

ellendavis47

Bad for us according to new nutrition information

snazzyjazzy21

Just don't drink soda, period. It's not natural. Straight up chemicals.

Better watch out, that H2O is gonna kill ya...

Forty6and2

I work for a company that makes soda drinks for a lot of the major companies such as CocaCola and GSK (Lucozade) the amount of sugar in the form of glucose that I see going in to their mixes has put me off drinking their products at all, I do admit though I am partial to Coke Zero even with all the chemicals that go in to it.

It's got to be better than that dihydrogen monoxide stuff.

12bfree

I can't think of anything good about a soda pop. Personally I prefer water. Sometimes with a squeeze of lemon. Occasionally I'll drink a diet coke but I can't think of anything good about it. Maybe a wasp trap.

Strokingdiction

So, I was wondering about sodas. Both diet and regular. My thought is that they are not very good for us. People seem to feel that only scientific studies from peer-reviewed journals are a basis for making such a determination, so I've included some that I came across. Seems like sodas might be not,so,healthy.

Any thoughts?


... lots o studies ...

I could link a thousand studies that difinitively tell me how bad alcohol is for the human body, especially in excess.

I'm still going to enjoy a little bit of my favorite alcohol. I might even mix it with some soda. Oh no, that might lead to:

cpdiminish

Of course, you'd have to define healthy or unhealthy before you could have an absolute answer.

But soda doesn't contain any nutrients (or so few that they don't much matter), so I don't see how they could ever be considered healthy.

Every time I see a thread or comment where someone claims that soda isn't bad for you, I can't help but wonder how much the beverage industry is paying them.

Most sodas contain enough artificial colors and flavors to definitely put them on the "bad" list, and that is before you even begin to look at the form of sweetener used.