Am I Pushing Too Hard??
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Ruth, having peeked at your diary, you seem to be under-eating your calories, which could certainly be contributing to your struggles. Is there a reason for you eating so little?
Also, have you set yourself any goals for tweaking your diet at all?0 -
Aaron, Ruth has said she will answer via a private message. Willing, not reluctant, to answer via private message.0
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Aaron, Ruth has said she will answer via a private message. Willing, not reluctant, to answer via private message.
I saw that but I think if she would benefit from advice from the community not from one person at a time in a private setting. Also I asked about her caloric intake not her weight.
My suspicion is that she is undereating. If you are eating enough even if you are horribly out of shape, out in the heat and a little dehydrated I would not expect you to get faint to the point of passing out from a 1/2 mile walk. I would however suspect that would happen if you were eating so little that your body was unable to cope with exercise and in my limited experience on this forum it seems to me there are a lot of people here having problems because they are eating far far too little.0 -
I know everyone is jumping to the conclusion it was heat stroke brought on by dehydration but I don't think we can say that without more info. Frankly 88 degrees isn't that hot and a well-fed body would likely be able to handle that for a short distance.
I agree with you that if her diary is accurate, she needs to eat more. I also agree that it might be too hot for her. I walk a lot and 88 degrees is really rough on me. I'm just not good with temperature extremes. (I know some places get much hotter, but humidity could also play a role, and anything over 85 makes me feel like poo, ever since I was a kid.)0 -
I know everyone is jumping to the conclusion it was heat stroke brought on by dehydration but I don't think we can say that without more info. Frankly 88 degrees isn't that hot and a well-fed body would likely be able to handle that for a short distance.
I agree with you that if her diary is accurate, she needs to eat more. I also agree that it might be too hot for her. I walk a lot and 88 degrees is really rough on me. I'm just not good with temperature extremes. (I know some places get much hotter, but humidity could also play a role, and anything over 85 makes me feel like poo, ever since I was a kid.)
Yes it could be the heat and dehydration especially if it was a humid day for sure. But if my first thought is "low calories" and then we look at her diary and see low calories I tend to think its low calories that is to blame. But you are right it could be rough. Question for you though did you ever vomit and almost pass out? Big difference between something being hard and something almost making you lose consciousness.0 -
Yes it could be the heat and dehydration especially if it was a humid day for sure. But if my first thought is "low calories" and then we look at her diary and see low calories I tend to think its low calories that is to blame. But you are right it could be rough. Question for you though did you ever vomit and almost pass out? Big difference between something being hard and something almost making you lose consciousness.
I have vomited and gotten faint from heat before, but not very often since childhood since I know how to deal with it and know my limits. The worst it usually gets is now bad headaches and some head rushes. I have to dress a certain way and I pay attention to my electrolytes before I go out. I think I once had to be taken to the ER as a kid for playing outside. I was referred to as "not a good sun baby" whatever that means. :laugh: I could see it happening easily if OP is overweight and not used to the activity, but your point is still valid that if her diary is being completed, she isn't eating enough.
OP, if you are going to continue walking, bring some Powerade with you. :flowerforyou:0 -
If you're going to be exercising in the heat, you need to be hydrating yourself all day before hand. Heat stroke can kill you quicker than you think if you're pushing yourself beyond your usual limit.
The OP's problem does sound like heat exhaustion triggered by dehydration. But advising "all day" hydration is going too far in the other direction. The hydration industry wants us to think that we need water or sports drinks every time we do something outside. But hyponatremia - low blood sodium levels due to excessive hydration - is a serious problem.
The best advice is simply to drink when you're thirsty. But don't take my word for it: http://www.runnersworld.com/drinks-hydration/revisionist-drinking0 -
Nah, when your lying on the ground in a pile of your own sick with circling vultures fading in and out of sight, that's when you stop.
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Ok so I just went for a half mile walk and I literally pushed myself to the point of vomiting, I felt dizzy and it looked like everything was turning red. It's also 89℉ outside and I was walking as fast as my body would let me. Over doing it or not??
Okay...I have read all the responses so I will stay away from all of that and ask you this...
Why did you feel as if you needed to go as fast as your body would let you?
Speed it the last thing that a beginner should worry about...especially in the heat.
Here is one training program for walking a 5k. It helped me when I first started. As much as I walk I still pace myself and vary the distances that I walk.
http://www.halhigdon.com/training/50936/5K-Walk-Training-Program
There are other similar programs...just google "training to walk a 5k". They are all similar in their approach.
Hope this helps.
Also...it is in the 90's where I live. I drink water before I leave and always carry water in a light weight nylon backpack. If I am going to be gone on a long walk I always carry some money with me in case I need to stop at a market for more or if what I have gets too hot. Make sure that your clothing is light colored...dark draws heat.
Another thing that I do...(I live in the city)...I plot my route before I leave...making sure that there are places along the way that I can go in to for a bit to cool off if necessary.0 -
What's the "hydration industry"? Is this referring to countries where you can't drink the tap water?0
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Nah, when your lying on the ground in a pile of your own sick with circling vultures fading in and out of sight, that's when you stop.
I thought about doing that very thing the other day...just lying down and letting someone run over me...put me out of my misery!
I had gone on a hike...worn myself out...still had to walk home...up a steep hill. I stood at the bottom and looked up...I thought..."Oh lord help me!".
Where were those vultures when I needed them???0 -
Nah, when your lying on the ground in a pile of your own sick with circling vultures fading in and out of sight, that's when you stop.
I thought about doing that very thing the other day...just lying down and letting someone run over me...put me out of my misery!
I had gone on a hike...worn myself out...still had to walk home...up a steep hill. I stood at the bottom and looked up...I thought..."Oh lord help me!".
Where were those vultures when I needed them???
LOLOLOL. IKR. thank you for answering to OP with some common sense and logic. this nonsense made me incapable.
"uh oh i'm bleeding to death..do you think i might be pushing too hard?" *smh*
I know the correct answer was...
"there there hun, you're just pushing too hard, here's a mint julep and lemme put your tootsies in a cool pedicure bath." I find it highly irresponsible to "push yourself" and "as much as my body would let me". People watch too much damn television weight loss shows. You don't EARN your weight loss by how much you suffer. You simply do the work required and that's it. It doesn't have to be all lemon juice on paper cuts for you to get results. Take it easy.0 -
"Oh lord help me!".
Where were those vultures when I needed them???
And did He help you? Did He send the vultures?
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Walking a half mile is light exercise… obese or not. I see you have 100 lbs to lose so yes, carrying an extra 100 lbs is going to make it much more difficult. Factor in the heat and it's not going to be pleasant. Next time, take it slow. You should never push yourself to the point of vomiting. You were dizzy because you were most likely dehydrated. Next time bring a water bottle or Gatorade zero with you.
I looked at your food diary and you are not properly fueling your body so that is your main problem. The other day you ate 1,075 calories and burned 432 calories exercising. That gives you a net of 643 calories. On May 1st, you ate 738 calories. The day before that, you ate 1,028 and burned 842 calories. Eating like that is going to put you into starvation mode if you continue down that path.
You need to make sure you are netting AT LEAST 1200 calories a day. The better thing to do in order to know how many calories your body needs is find your BMR and TDEE. You can do so at www.iifym.com. Since you aren't willing to share your weight and height in the forum, I'm not able to figure it out for you.0 -
Maybe you're coming down with a cold or something? I find I get dehydrated a lot more quickly when I'm sick.0
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What's the "hydration industry"? Is this referring to countries where you can't drink the tap water?
Big Hydration is out for your money.0 -
I thought this was going to be about something completely different.....0
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I thought this was going to be about something completely different.....
lol!!0 -
"Oh lord help me!".
Where were those vultures when I needed them???
And did He help you? Did He send the vultures?
Nope...just a danged squirrel!
I had two choices...stay at the bottom...let the vultures come and eat the last 25lbs I have to lose...or get my butt up that hill!
I had to think about it for a while...then decided I am not in to being eaten alive...so I took a drink of water...and up that hill I went.
I am gluten for punishment though...I will do that hill again this week.0 -
"Oh lord help me!".
Where were those vultures when I needed them???
And did He help you? Did He send the vultures?
Nope...just a danged squirrel!
I had two choices...stay at the bottom...let the vultures come and eat the last 25lbs I have to lose...or get my butt up that hill!
I had to think about it for a while...then decided I am not in to being eaten alive...so I took a drink of water...and up that hill I went.
I am gluten for punishment though...I will do that hill again this week.
Is that paleo?0 -
Nah, when your lying on the ground in a pile of your own sick with circling vultures fading in and out of sight, that's when you stop.
I thought about doing that very thing the other day...just lying down and letting someone run over me...put me out of my misery!
I had gone on a hike...worn myself out...still had to walk home...up a steep hill. I stood at the bottom and looked up...I thought..."Oh lord help me!".
Where were those vultures when I needed them???
LOLOLOL. IKR. thank you for answering to OP with some common sense and logic. this nonsense made me incapable.
"uh oh i'm bleeding to death..do you think i might be pushing too hard?" *smh*
I know the correct answer was...
"there there hun, you're just pushing too hard, here's a mint julep and lemme put your tootsies in a cool pedicure bath." I find it highly irresponsible to "push yourself" and "as much as my body would let me". People watch too much damn television weight loss shows. You don't EARN your weight loss by how much you suffer. You simply do the work required and that's it. It doesn't have to be all lemon juice on paper cuts for you to get results. Take it easy.
I am not much in to coddling myself.
I am 61 and started at 246+lbs. I was sedentary (almost coma like) when I decided to get healthy. I researched...read everything that I could...started slow and worked my way up. Would I like to be able to do more...sure...but I have accepted that there are some things that my body will just not allow me to do. I focus on those things that I can. I pay attention to how my body feels and make adjustments if I need to. I am not out to set any world records...just to improve upon my own.
Oh...I agree...I don't believe in suffering...minor discomfort...sure...but no suffering!0 -
"Oh lord help me!".
Where were those vultures when I needed them???
And did He help you? Did He send the vultures?
Nope...just a danged squirrel!
I had two choices...stay at the bottom...let the vultures come and eat the last 25lbs I have to lose...or get my butt up that hill!
I had to think about it for a while...then decided I am not in to being eaten alive...so I took a drink of water...and up that hill I went.
I am gluten for punishment though...I will do that hill again this week.
Is that paleo?
For the vultures??? Sure...I think...
Paleo for me would be punishment.0 -
"Oh lord help me!".
Where were those vultures when I needed them???
And did He help you? Did He send the vultures?
Nope...just a danged squirrel!
I had two choices...stay at the bottom...let the vultures come and eat the last 25lbs I have to lose...or get my butt up that hill!
I had to think about it for a while...then decided I am not in to being eaten alive...so I took a drink of water...and up that hill I went.
I am gluten for punishment though...I will do that hill again this week.
Is that paleo?
That's funnier than the reply I thought of.0 -
Does being chased by saber-tooth tigers count as punishment?
God Paleo really get's on my nerves. I know cleaner food is better for you but seriously our Paleolithic ancestors lived short violent and unhealthy lives. Imitating them is not a free pass to success.0 -
You need to start with activities that are within your body limits. For you, a half mile brisk walking was too much. I'd imagine that associating exercise with wanting to pass out/vomiting would prevent you from making physical activity a daily enjoyable thing which is what you have to do in order to lose and maintain a slimmer body.0
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You need to start with activities that are within your body limits. For you, a half mile brisk walking was too much. I'd imagine that associating exercise with wanting to pass out/vomiting would prevent you from making physical activity a daily enjoyable thing which is what you have to do in order to lose and maintain a slimmer body.
Yup. To make life changes that will actually stick and improve your health and overall fitness you have to do things you actually enjoy and from your description sounds like you were forcing your body to do something both it and you did not want to do. Your body is your friend not your enemy, need to work with it not beat it to submission.0 -
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...because unhealthy ancestors and a lack of understanding of life expectancy determinants...
...and also because NDE and a half mile walk.
OP, stop striving for extreme and focus on consistency and patience. Once you have those, you can look for reasonable ways to add the extreme you may be craving without derailing your overall plan. Also, if you aren't eating enough, and I suspect you aren't, then do that first...because it's hard to be consistent when you're too weak to get off of the couch without fainting.0 -
It sounds like you maybe aren't hydrated enough and also that your body isn't used to strenuous activity.Ok so I just went for a half mile walk and I literally pushed myself to the point of vomiting, I felt dizzy and it looked like everything was turning red. It's also 89℉ outside and I was walking as fast as my body would let me. Over doing it or not??
I do miles of running and walking on steep hills in the sun in Florida summers and don't have a problem. But I also have been doing it for a long time and have worked up to it.0
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