super high heart rate and fainting
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QFT^Get your dumb *kitten* to a cardiologist, today. Not tomorrow, not when you have time, NOW.
You'll ask for both a 3D sonogram and a 24-48 hour monitoring device.
Your solution is in one of those.
Or, keep doing what you're doing, and when you inevitably stop logging on it'll be because your heart exploded under the strain.
Your call.
Asap!! you are risking having a heart attack, stroke, death etc
Also pay heed to eating more but yes seek medical attention straight away...stress test and a halter monitor are excellent suggestions to start with since you said exercise exasperates the problem. A Combined stress/ Rest Myocardial perfusion and carotid doppler ultrasound and even a brain CT/MRI wouldn't go astray.
I am aware you said you have had tests, blood work, xrays etc done but till you get a diagnosis you have to persist! Don't accept "huh" from the specialist, get more tests done till you find out the cause.
If you can't do it for yourself than do it for the ones you love, if you had a child with the condition you describe would you be so nonchalant...doubtful.
And for Christ's sake don't self diagnose and try to eat properly
ETA: I don't promote seeking medical advice on here because people have varying opinions and are rarely professionals and even if they were they are not privy to your tests results, charts, levels, family history etc so most opinions are moot and if you take the wrong advice it may prove to be fatal!!...that being said I am glad you posted because maybe you will seek further medical attention and also start eating properly0 -
Listen to what people are saying here.
You are down to 151 lb. I don't know your height, but for most males, that isn't overweight, so eat more. If severe calorie restriction is possibly contributing to this condition, or complicating it, why keep on doing it? Go up to maintenance calorie levels while you figure this out. You can always cut again later (at a more moderate level) but heart stuff is SERIOUS BUSINESS. People die from stuff like this. Even relatively healthy 33 year old males.
Then go back to your Doctor. Find a new Doctor. Get a referral to a specialist. Whatever you need to do. Get the exercise stress test and other things others here have suggested. I had one episode of (what was later diagnosed as) vasovagal syncope (basically, just fainting) a couple of years back, and my Dr was all over the testing to try and figure out what was going on and to make sure I was OK. EKG, stress test, blood work... just for passing out one time. If I did it again, I'm sure I would end up in a hospital with all sorts of tubes being stuck into me, but I'm OK with that. I would want them to!
This is your health - your life, quite possibly. You have to be your own advocate here, so push for what you need. Don't leave the Drs office until you have a plan for how you are going to figure this out.0 -
Sorry, to clarify it comes on like chest pains then heart rate rise and faint. Not a lack of nutrition feeling dizzy.
Uhm what?? Start eating more and go see a doctor - or start planning your funeral.... Really - how much more warning do you need???
I thank you for your concern, but 4 months ago I was 180lbs (now 151) and couldn't go 30 mins without feeling faint (chest pains were always bad. I can see what you are all saying bad need to eat more etc.. But this is an ongoing thing that started after huge weight gain.
Sounds like tachycardia - get thee back to a cardiologist! And request a stress test. They will monitor your heart while you are exercising which will enable them to capture an episode like you described.
http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/tachycardia/basics/symptoms/con-200430120 -
Than you so much for the information guys. I am going to go see my doctor after taking notes.
It has been to long dealing with this, I will be the first person to increase my food level and work out harder once I know what is going on.0 -
RN here...a few thoughts:
Start by eating more calories and cutting out the exercise. Walk if you must exercises.
Call your doctor back, see a different doctor, or go to the ER next time it happens. Get a referral for a cardiologist (heart doctor). Chest pain has been ongoing...seen a cardiologist? Had an exercise stress test? EKG's are just snapshots of what your heart is doing AT THAT MOMENT. Exercise Stress Tests - you get on a treadmill and exercise while they watch your heart - fail it and they have a few options - usually an IV med to stress your heart and/or a heart cath. Since you're fit enough that you shouldn't fail the Exercise Stress Test, I'm guessing they'd want a heart cath. Dude, you got SOMETHING going on with your heart.
Again, eat something...'normal' people might not get sick from cutting calories that severely BRIEFLY, but YOU have some underlying problem. NO ONE should be passing out or feeling fainthearted, and NO ONE can sustain a heart rate above 160 - eventually something is going to give.
(and this doesn't sound like Afib to me. A fib is more irregular than what he is experiencing).
I work out with my heartrate 170-180 all the time. Heart rates are relative.
Sustain - as in it doesn't come down. His comes down when he stops exercising. I'm guessing if he continued to work out when his heartrate is high and he's feeling like passing out, he'd actually pass out. You aren't symptomatic with your heartrate 170-180 (not feeling like passing out).0 -
Oh tests done so far
ecg stress test
eco stress test
x-ray's
Ultra sound of heart and lungs
blood work - showed high cholesterol but now under control.
had slight asthma since I was a child - this is a different pain
all of these tests were done last year in Australia. will get a second opinion in Canada.0 -
now during my ecg stress test I had a episode and had to be seen to. my doctor ignored the results. eg to me it must not be important0
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I think everyone is saying (not to harp on your diet further) but the lack of nutrition going into your body is stressful to the heart. Anorexics often have heart damage due to this very thing. (OK - off the diet thing).
I see in your list of tests you have NOT worn a 48-hour heart monitor. I suggest that and do a workout while you have it on. I have DYSAUTONOMIA where my blood pressure drops but my heart rate increases resulting ins syncope (fainting - or near fainting). This is a "short circuit" in my autonomic nervous system - and apparently I've had it all my life but it wasn't diagnosed (or really giving me problems) until after my 1st child was born (I was 31 y/o). I had to wear a monitor and walked up a hill and my BP dropped and my heart rate increased, and I almost passed out. That's when they saw it and diagnosed me. Medications, minor diet changes (I was told to eat more salt and increase my water intake to balance the increased salt) and time helped it subside (It never goes away, it just goes into a "remission" type state). Oh - and it was the Heart Center (cardiology) that got me the monitor to wear.
Good luck!0 -
A lack of nutrients can cause high heart rate. Heart is a muscle also, your body will turn to muscle for fuel if your not consuming enough calories. Thyroid problems can also speed up HR, I know because it happens to me. Good luck ,glad your trying to figure it out.0
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Sorry mate even though our government likes to brag about how great our medical system and doctors are here I can imagine the run around you got...Oh tests done so far
ecg stress test
eco stress test
x-ray's
Ultra sound of heart and lungs
blood work - showed high cholesterol but now under control.
had slight asthma since I was a child - this is a different pain
all of these tests were done last year in Australia. will get a second opinion in Canada.
-Presented at hospital with chest pains,result: blood-work, ECG, X-ray clear so you were sent home with a referral to your GP for a follow up with a Cardiologist...probably told you are too young for heart problems.
-Waited for a surprising long time for Cardiologist appointment (if you saw one) had stress tests, ultra sound etc done now you had to wait for the results to go back to your GP.
- Cardiologist's report says to GP their is nothing wrong with your heart, GP probably reassures you there is nothing wrong since a trained professional has put it on paper and sent it to his office.
-You leave feeling both relieved and confused as you know the problem has not abated but tests that have been done says you are in the clear.
Sound familiar? On going problem needs ongoing diagnostic tests and hopefully treatment, good luck in Canada!
I reiterate get more opinions, tests etc eat properly and hold off on the exercise till you have seen a medical professional.0 -
now during my ecg stress test I had a episode and had to be seen to. my doctor ignored the results. eg to me it must not be important
I always tell people to get a second opinion when they're worried about something. I'm not trying to insult your physician but maybe they were wrong in ignoring it.0 -
Sounds about right! f%$ken medical system here has become a joke! (Australia)now during my ecg stress test I had a episode and had to be seen to. my doctor ignored the results. eg to me it must not be important0 -
Sorry mate even though our government likes to brag about how great our medical system and doctors are here I can imagine the run around you got...Oh tests done so far
ecg stress test
eco stress test
x-ray's
Ultra sound of heart and lungs
blood work - showed high cholesterol but now under control.
had slight asthma since I was a child - this is a different pain
all of these tests were done last year in Australia. will get a second opinion in Canada.
-Presented at hospital with chest pains,result: blood-work, ECG, X-ray clear so you were sent home with a referral to your GP for a follow up with a Cardiologist...probably told you are too young for heart problems.
-Waited for a surprising long time for Cardiologist appointment (if you saw one) had stress tests, ultra sound etc done now you had to wait for the results to go back to your GP.
- Cardiologist's report says to GP their is nothing wrong with your heart, GP probably reassures you there is nothing wrong since a trained professional has put it on paper and sent it to his office.
-You leave feeling both relieved and confused as you know the problem has not abated but tests that have been done says you are in the clear.
Sound familiar? On going problem needs ongoing diagnostic tests and hopefully treatment, good luck in Canada!
I reiterate get more opinions, tests etc eat properly and hold off on the exercise till you have seen a medical professional.
This is almost exactly how it happened.
Sadly I am not the only one then. It gets to a point were you say F&*k it I will try just fix it myself0 -
Sorry mate even though our government likes to brag about how great our medical system and doctors are here I can imagine the run around you got...Oh tests done so far
ecg stress test
eco stress test
x-ray's
Ultra sound of heart and lungs
blood work - showed high cholesterol but now under control.
had slight asthma since I was a child - this is a different pain
all of these tests were done last year in Australia. will get a second opinion in Canada.
-Presented at hospital with chest pains,result: blood-work, ECG, X-ray clear so you were sent home with a referral to your GP for a follow up with a Cardiologist...probably told you are too young for heart problems.
-Waited for a surprising long time for Cardiologist appointment (if you saw one) had stress tests, ultra sound etc done now you had to wait for the results to go back to your GP.
- Cardiologist's report says to GP their is nothing wrong with your heart, GP probably reassures you there is nothing wrong since a trained professional has put it on paper and sent it to his office.
-You leave feeling both relieved and confused as you know the problem has not abated but tests that have been done says you are in the clear.
Sound familiar? On going problem needs ongoing diagnostic tests and hopefully treatment, good luck in Canada!
I reiterate get more opinions, tests etc eat properly and hold off on the exercise till you have seen a medical professional.
This is almost exactly how it happened.
Sadly I am not the only one then. It gets to a point were you say F&*k it I will try just fix it myself
Sticking with a doctor who ignored an event during testing and your self diagnosis/treatment are both idiotic decisions.0 -
Here's something scary to check for: Aortic dissection.
It can not be detected by regular heart tests, is mainly caused by crap genetics (Marfan syndrome), and is notorious for killing otherwise young, healthy people who have unexplained angina (chest pain) I'd stop working out, starving myself and get tested for this.
Good luck!0 -
Eating and working out this way will eat up more lean muscle than fat and losing that muscle will only lower your metabolic rate even more.700 calories? And you workout? Sorry man, but there's a reason why people who eat like this and over exercise die of heart complications. Your view of how to lose fat and get fit are skewed.
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It was a plan to try get rid of the body fat that caused it in the first place. with 6 months of tests and no results it seemed like it was worth a try. now this is not a long term plan
Start by just eating your BMR daily for a month. Then reassess. Let's do this the safe way.
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have you had all your micro-nutrients checked by the doctor, I had several episodes of tachycardia (unexplained high heart rate) and it turned out to be a magnesium difficiency, apparently magnesium regulates muscle function including the heart. Just a suggestion3
side note: if you start to take magnesium or you get a bag full at the hospital your poop WILL turn green, please do not be alarmed, I surely was!!!0 -
Based on what you are experiencing, have you had a coronary calcium scan to check for any blockage/placque?
I would request one ASAP - even if you have to pay for it.Hello all.
So I know this might not be the place to get medical advice but no harm in trying.
Pretty simple question that doctors can’t seem to answer, I am a somewhat healthy 33 year old, but over the last few years I have been having constant chest pains on my left hand side (stick with me this becomes about working out I swear). Have had my heart and lungs tested and everything seems to come back ok.
Now for why I am here, I keep passing out during my workouts and my heart rate goes through the roof (191bpm). Then light headed and down I go. I have always been a runner so for this to happen seems weird to say the least. I thought I was ok(chest pains lessening but seem controllable with diet) then this happened again this morning. Now I was doing a very brisk walk at 6.8kph for 50mins. Weird part of this morning is once I realized it was happening I jumped of the tread mill and my heart rate dropped back to 92bpm in about 30 seconds.
Any help would be well appreciated.0 -
Get your dumb *kitten* to a cardiologist, today. Not tomorrow, not when you have time, NOW.
You'll ask for both a 3D sonogram and a 24-48 hour monitoring device.
Your solution is in one of those.
Or, keep doing what you're doing, and when you inevitably stop logging on it'll be because your heart exploded under the strain.
Your call.
QFT, in case it hasn't been made abundantly clear to you OP that you need to go see a Dr. There are a lot of reasons why it could happen.
I had issues with this at 18-19 years old and went through a myriad of tests and found a minor issue with my heart and it's electrical signals. They found it via the 48 hour monitoring with a portable EKG. It only came on when I decided that eating was for wimps with no will power (my super mature train of thought at 18) and tried eating as little as possible while running 5 miles a day.
When I started eating more, the symptoms stopped. But seriously, go see a Dr. and try eating at maintenance. What happened to me or anyone else will not necessarily explain what's happening to you.0 -
Again thank you for all the advice people.
I am still pretty new to North America so waiting for my medical insurance to kick in. will go see a GP as soon a possible then start the testing all over again.
at least I have a bunch of possible problems it could be to ask the GP0
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