Can too much protein kick you out of ketosis?

mickey9694

I've read articles and posts that say glucose can be made from protein, then others that say only carbs can be used to make glucose, etc. just a bunch of conflicting stuff.

and if glucose can be made from protein, if you eat a high protein meal but add extra fat too it, would that cut down on the chances of being kicked out of ketosis?

albertabeefy

I've read articles and posts that say glucose can be made from protein, then others that say only carbs can be used to make glucose, etc. just a bunch of conflicting stuff.

All dietary carbohydrate is converted to glucose in the body, yes.

Dietary protein IN EXCESS *can* be converted to glucose, (a process known as gluconeogenesis), yes. But not all of it is - a certain amount of excess protein is simply excreted as waste. The amounts converted to glucose vs. excreted as waste vary per person - those who normally have higher blood glucose levels (uncontrolled diabetics, pre-diabetics, etc.) will often convert more excess protein into glucose (as the body tries to maintain homeostatis).

and if glucose can be made from protein, if you eat a high protein meal but add extra fat too it, would that cut down on the chances of being kicked out of ketosis?

No. Excess protein is excess protein, regardless of what you pair with it.

The thing is, you have to determine what excess really is. For someone who's calorie-restricted AND exercising, it's actually difficult to eat excess protein unless you're purposely trying to.

Out of curiosity, what do you consider a "high protein meal"?

mickey9694

I've read articles and posts that say glucose can be made from protein, then others that say only carbs can be used to make glucose, etc. just a bunch of conflicting stuff.

All dietary carbohydrate is converted to glucose in the body, yes.

Dietary protein IN EXCESS *can* be converted to glucose, (a process known as gluconeogenesis), yes. But not all of it is - a certain amount of excess protein is simply excreted as waste. The amounts converted to glucose vs. excreted as waste vary per person - those who normally have higher blood glucose levels (uncontrolled diabetics, pre-diabetics, etc.) will often convert more excess protein into glucose (as the body tries to maintain homeostatis).

and if glucose can be made from protein, if you eat a high protein meal but add extra fat too it, would that cut down on the chances of being kicked out of ketosis?

No. Excess protein is excess protein, regardless of what you pair with it.

The thing is, you have to determine what excess really is. For someone who's calorie-restricted AND exercising, it's actually difficult to eat excess protein unless you're purposely trying to.

Out of curiosity, what do you consider a "high protein meal"?

Thanks for the info, anywhere from 35-40 grams in a meal from chicken (is that even considered a lot?)

I generally get in around 80-90 grams a day

albertabeefy

Thanks for the info, anywhere from 35-40 grams in a meal from chicken (is that even considered a lot?)

I generally get in around 80-90 grams a day

Depending on your lean mass and exercise regimen, you may be getting too little protein. I seldom eat less than 130g / day. On heavy exercise days I strive for 150+ . . . But I'm close to 6'3" and about 207 lbs. My 'lean mass' is about 185lbs.