To much protein makes you gain???

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  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
    I have been researching weight lost topics for at least five years. None of they were easy ways to achieve my goal. I was very stressed out doing it in the past. The diets plans were a ridiculous way to live.
  • PikaKnight
    PikaKnight Posts: 34,971 Member
    I've read that entire article and it's complete hokum. T nation is the Broscience capital of the Internet! Their training articles can sometimes be decent but their nutritional articles are equally hokum!

    so bring some articles that counter that article so I can read them.

    Evidence other than the hundreds of success stories on MFP alone that relied on the calories in/calories out regardless of "type" of food eaten?

    To Note: Although seeming to lead to the same website, there are still studies discussed, cited, etc in most of the links below.


    http://body-improvements.com/resources/eat

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/research-review/hormonal-responses-to-a-fast-food-meal-compared-with-nutritionally-comparable-meals-of-different-composition-research-review.html

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/comparing-the-diets-part-1.html

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18617080?ordinalpos=1&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/all-diets-work-the-importance-of-calories.html

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/is-a-calorie-a-calorie.html

    http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/nutrition/calories-nutrients-or-food.html

    Edited to remove double posted link and to add that the bodyrecomposition.com site has many more studies/articles in regards to calories in, calories out if you want to search it.
  • TLC7613
    TLC7613 Posts: 86 Member
    Thank you all for your replies. I've definitely learned some new info. I'm going to try the powder with 50g of.protein since I can use it after. LIfting too and if I find that it's to much for my body I can always cut the servings in fall. The info about 1g of protein being 4 calories makes sense seeing that the 50g protein powder is 210-220 calories per serving.
  • Too much protein makes you sick. It is simply an imbalance in nutrition. Hard on the bones and hard on the kidneys and challenges the liver. Over time you simply age more. (historically, Roman soldiers were known as the "Barley Men" and refused all meat before battle). Science supports and debunks the idea that eating > Pro++ leads to > muscles. Interesting, when I posted (my first post ever on the internet, so excuse any format ignorance), someone else's picture and name came up. I am white, old and, yes I am logging my food as well as loving my Fitbit. (PS although my degree is a little aged and yellowed, I stay current in Exercise Physiology and Nutrition).

    CdC
  • vismal
    vismal Posts: 2,463 Member
    Too much protein makes you sick. It is simply an imbalance in nutrition. Hard on the bones and hard on the kidneys and challenges the liver. Over time you simply age more. (historically, Roman soldiers were known as the "Barley Men" and refused all meat before battle). Science supports and debunks the idea that eating > Pro++ leads to > muscles. Interesting, when I posted (my first post ever on the internet, so excuse any format ignorance), someone else's picture and name came up. I am white, old and, yes I am logging my food as well as loving my Fitbit. (PS although my degree is a little aged and yellowed, I stay current in Exercise Physiology and Nutrition).

    CdC
    Please provide proof of these claims. In what way does too much protein make you sick? Any studies showing that it is hard on the bones or kidneys? How much is too much? Technically too much anything can make you sick. Too much water can kill you. The fact of the matter is that unless your are eating an extremely high amount of protein for a very long period of time, you simply don't see health issues.
  • PunkyDucky
    PunkyDucky Posts: 283 Member
    Totally irrelevant to the topic but I swear that "yopeeps" dude is a troll sometimes. :huh: Very inconsistent
  • This is my second ever post. Someone did a "Quote" on my post on the thread of pro++

    One person commented that I should look up amino acids (the building blocks of proteins) and another comment was made that protein's potential damage has been debunked by a Phd. This is my last post on the subject because I'm not sure if this topic is appropriate for this forum or what proper protocol is. So as my last contribution I would like to cite Dr. John McDougall as a reference if someone wants to begin researching protein's effect on muscle building and general health. Dr. McDougall is a good place to begin because he has done more objective research on nutritional research that anyone else in the field and is highly respected by experts at many top universities. He especially values the quality of a studies design and from my understanding prefers the rigor of the Cochran studies. IF you are interested in IF protein above 15% of a diet actually contributes to greater muscles, and IF you are interested in the damage it causes to the body, you may begin with these articles and follow his citations:

    https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2012nl/aug/wars.htm

    https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2004nl/040100puproteinoverload.htm

    Go for it.
  • Wetcoaster
    Wetcoaster Posts: 1,788 Member
    This is my second ever post. Someone did a "Quote" on my post on the thread of pro++

    One person commented that I should look up amino acids (the building blocks of proteins) and another comment was made that protein's potential damage has been debunked by a Phd. This is my last post on the subject because I'm not sure if this topic is appropriate for this forum or what proper protocol is. So as my last contribution I would like to cite Dr. John McDougall as a reference if someone wants to begin researching protein's effect on muscle building and general health. Dr. McDougall is a good place to begin because he has done more objective research on nutritional research that anyone else in the field and is highly respected by experts at many top universities. He especially values the quality of a studies design and from my understanding prefers the rigor of the Cochran studies. IF you are interested in IF protein above 15% of a diet actually contributes to greater muscles, and IF you are interested in the damage it causes to the body, you may begin with these articles and follow his citations:

    https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2012nl/aug/wars.htm

    https://www.drmcdougall.com/misc/2004nl/040100puproteinoverload.htm

    Go for it.

    He is a low-fat vegan advocate.

    No thanks.