Gluten sensitivitiy may not exist

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likitisplit
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http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/05/gluten_sensitivity_may_not_exist.html

TL;DR - the scientist who identified non-celiac gluten sensitivity tried to replicate his own research and failed to find significant results.

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  • SonicDeathMonkey80
    SonicDeathMonkey80 Posts: 4,489 Member
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    So you're saying this could be the big food marketing sham of the 2010s?
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
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    http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/05/gluten_sensitivity_may_not_exist.html

    TL;DR - the scientist who identified non-celiac gluten sensitivity tried to replicate his own research and failed to find significant results.

    Interesting - is this the rebuttal to the other thread?
  • CarsonRuns
    CarsonRuns Posts: 3,039 Member
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    Bravo!
  • vmclach
    vmclach Posts: 670 Member
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    The calm before the storm :O
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
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    http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/05/gluten_sensitivity_may_not_exist.html

    TL;DR - the scientist who identified non-celiac gluten sensitivity tried to replicate his own research and failed to find significant results.
    nah, it's the same BS article.

    Nope nope nope. As I said in the other thread, I'm on a strict FODMAP diet, and I'm also still gluten-intolerant.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
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    http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/05/gluten_sensitivity_may_not_exist.html

    TL;DR - the scientist who identified non-celiac gluten sensitivity tried to replicate his own research and failed to find significant results.

    Interesting - is this the rebuttal to the other thread?

    I haven't seen the other thread. Too busy cleaning up my office (we all know I don't actually do any work)
  • WakkoW
    WakkoW Posts: 567 Member
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    So, are we going to have daily gluten threads now?

    I hope this doesn't mean we stop with the clean eating threads.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
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    http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/05/gluten_sensitivity_may_not_exist.html

    TL;DR - the scientist who identified non-celiac gluten sensitivity tried to replicate his own research and failed to find significant results.
    nah, it's the same BS article.

    Nope nope nope. As I said in the other thread, I'm on a strict FODMAP diet, and I'm also still gluten-intolerant.

    My mom is actually gluten-intolerant. She gets debilitating flu-like symptoms when she works with flour or other sources of gluten (professionally, she's a baker). She didn't test positive to Celiac.

    I have a hard time saying "it's all in your head." There are real physical symptoms. I mean, arthritis kind of acts like this. It's a measurable disease which has measurable effects from all sorts of ridiculous "treatments"

    It might not be gluten that's the culprit. We need a better test for the sensitivity. If we can't identify if somebody has the problem, we have not a chance of figuring out what's causing it or how to fix it.
  • FunkyTobias
    FunkyTobias Posts: 1,776 Member
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    http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/05/gluten_sensitivity_may_not_exist.html

    TL;DR - the scientist who identified non-celiac gluten sensitivity tried to replicate his own research and failed to find significant results.
    nah, it's the same BS article.

    Nope nope nope. As I said in the other thread, I'm on a strict FODMAP diet, and I'm also still gluten-intolerant.

    Anecdote =/= evidence
  • mccindy72
    mccindy72 Posts: 7,001 Member
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    http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/05/gluten_sensitivity_may_not_exist.html

    TL;DR - the scientist who identified non-celiac gluten sensitivity tried to replicate his own research and failed to find significant results.
    nah, it's the same BS article.

    Nope nope nope. As I said in the other thread, I'm on a strict FODMAP diet, and I'm also still gluten-intolerant.

    Anecdote =/= evidence

    You can say what you want, but my own experience proves that what they concluded in this experiment is wrong. I follow the diet they claim will prove that gluten intolerance doesn't exist, and I still react to gluten. Hence, their hypothesis is incorrect.
  • FunkyTobias
    FunkyTobias Posts: 1,776 Member
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    ^^ Doesn't understand the nocebo effect^^
  • jenilla1
    jenilla1 Posts: 11,118 Member
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    If it's the FODMAPS that are causing the problem, you still basically end up eliminating gluten, since FODMAPS are in gluten containing foods. Whether it's gluten or FODMAP issues you still have to eliminate the same stuff (and more for FODMAPS), so it really doesn't matter.
  • snazzyjazzy21
    snazzyjazzy21 Posts: 1,298 Member
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    Wait...I'm getting deja-vu, haven't we been over this?
  • FunkyTobias
    FunkyTobias Posts: 1,776 Member
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    If it's the FODMAPS that are causing the problem, you still basically end up eliminating gluten, since FODMAPS are in gluten containing foods. Whether it's gluten or FODMAP issues you still have to eliminate the same stuff (and more for FODMAPS), so it really doesn't matter.

    Not true.

    5. What is the difference between ‘gluten-free’ and ‘wheat-free’ foods? Do I have to restrict gluten?

    A strict life-long ‘gluten-free’ diet is only required if you have been diagnosed with coeliac disease. Coeliac disease is an auto-immune condition that results in inflammation of the small intestine when any gluten is ingested. Ensure you are properly investigated for coeliac disease before restricting gluten in your diet. When following the low FODMAP diet, fructans and other FODMAPs, but not gluten, are restricted. Gluten is the protein found in wheat, rye and barley. These cereals also happen to be high in FODMAPs (mostly fructans). ‘Gluten-free’ foods are usually based on rice flour, maize- or corn-flour, potato-flour and quinoa which are low in FODMAPs, so by choosing ‘gluten-free’ you may also be choosing low FODMAP. Keep in mind, ‘gluten-free’ foods may have high FODMAP ingredients added (e.g. onion, pear or honey) so read the ingredient label carefully. Choosing a strict gluten free diet when you only require a low FODMAP diet will lead to over-restriction. Oats and spelt bread contain gluten but are relatively low in FODMAPs so are suitable to have on a low FODMAP diet in appropriate serves. In addition, gluten is found in products derived from wheat, rye and barley, such as wheat starch, wheat thickeners and barley malt. These are common ingredients in a wide range of commercial products including soy sauce, confectionary, mayonnaise, yoghurts and more. They contain gluten and must be avoided on a gluten free diet for coeliac disease, BUT they are not high in fructans and are suitable to include in a low FODMAP diet.
    ‘Wheat-free’ refers to any food that does not use wheat in the manufacturing, but ‘wheat-free’ foods may still include ‘gluten-containing’ cereals such as rye, barley, oats and spelt and “fructan-containing” cereals rye and barley. Wheat-free does not necessarily mean that it will be low in FODMAPs. The ingredients of products claiming “wheat free” should be checked for other FODMAP-containing foods.
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
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    Wait...I'm getting deja-vu, haven't we been over this?

    Yes. I guess somebody else posted the same article in a different thread. My apologies.
  • bcattoes
    bcattoes Posts: 17,299 Member
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    http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/05/gluten_sensitivity_may_not_exist.html

    TL;DR - the scientist who identified non-celiac gluten sensitivity tried to replicate his own research and failed to find significant results.

    So, one study got result A, but another failed to support it. Why, that's just shocking!! Has that ever happened in nutrition research before?
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
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    http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/05/gluten_sensitivity_may_not_exist.html

    TL;DR - the scientist who identified non-celiac gluten sensitivity tried to replicate his own research and failed to find significant results.

    So, one study got result A, but another failed to support it. Why, that's just shocking!! Has that ever happened in nutrition research before?

    Happens all the time in research. That's how theories are changed/thrown out. The challenge is that "no-results" tends to be less sexy than "ground-breaking" results, so poorly designed experiments that can only be replicated by the original researcher and/or his lab assistants stick around for longer than they should.
  • tincanonastring
    tincanonastring Posts: 3,944 Member
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    So you're saying this could be the big food marketing sham of the 2010s?

    No, you're thinking of organics.
  • SnicciFit
    SnicciFit Posts: 967 Member
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    http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/05/gluten_sensitivity_may_not_exist.html

    TL;DR - the scientist who identified non-celiac gluten sensitivity tried to replicate his own research and failed to find significant results.
    nah, it's the same BS article.

    Nope nope nope. As I said in the other thread, I'm on a strict FODMAP diet, and I'm also still gluten-intolerant.


    My mom is actually gluten-intolerant. She gets debilitating flu-like symptoms when she works with flour or other sources of gluten (professionally, she's a baker). She didn't test positive to Celiac.

    I have a hard time saying "it's all in your head." There are real physical symptoms. I mean, arthritis kind of acts like this. It's a measurable disease which has measurable effects from all sorts of ridiculous "treatments"

    It might not be gluten that's the culprit. We need a better test for the sensitivity. If we can't identify if somebody has the problem, we have not a chance of figuring out what's causing it or how to fix it.

    Maybe it's something else in the wheat?

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/05/22/314287321/sensitive-to-gluten-a-carb-in-wheat-may-be-the-real-culprit
  • likitisplit
    likitisplit Posts: 9,420 Member
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    http://www.realclearscience.com/blog/2014/05/gluten_sensitivity_may_not_exist.html

    TL;DR - the scientist who identified non-celiac gluten sensitivity tried to replicate his own research and failed to find significant results.
    nah, it's the same BS article.

    Nope nope nope. As I said in the other thread, I'm on a strict FODMAP diet, and I'm also still gluten-intolerant.


    My mom is actually gluten-intolerant. She gets debilitating flu-like symptoms when she works with flour or other sources of gluten (professionally, she's a baker). She didn't test positive to Celiac.

    I have a hard time saying "it's all in your head." There are real physical symptoms. I mean, arthritis kind of acts like this. It's a measurable disease which has measurable effects from all sorts of ridiculous "treatments"

    It might not be gluten that's the culprit. We need a better test for the sensitivity. If we can't identify if somebody has the problem, we have not a chance of figuring out what's causing it or how to fix it.

    Maybe it's something else in the wheat?

    http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/05/22/314287321/sensitive-to-gluten-a-carb-in-wheat-may-be-the-real-culprit

    That is a MUCH better and more balanced article covering the same research. THANK YOU!

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