Stalled weight loss

VeganCappy

And the Vegans strike again!

And they are almost always the ones with no profile picture, no progress pictures and a closed or blank profile page.

Just spouting of vegan info with literature to support their claims put out by vegan websites.

Lol. Pizza being bad for you. Brb....eating pizza 3x this past week and only 5 lbs away from my super vanity goal.

I support my position with science. I have already achieved my goals, now I am here to help others.

Congrats on being 5 lbs from your super vanity goal. But health is not entirely about weight. I will eat a cooked vegan pizza every now and then, but I don't fool myself into thinking it is healthy. It has very little nutrients.

Just because you like something and want to eat it doesn't mean you need to fool yourself into thinking it is healthy. If you recognize stuff as unhealthy, you will be far less likely to over indulge.

brower47

You might want to consider listening to vegans if you are trying to lose weight.

http://nutritionfacts.org/video/thousands-of-vegans-studied/

Because going vegan is the only way to lose weight? How exactly have us who are not vegans managed to lose weight? Oh wait CICO.

Sure, you can do it that way. Or you can ignore calories, eat as much food as you want, and be healthy and full of energy by eating a whole-foods, plant-based diet.

And it isn't about simply losing weight. It is about being healthy and maintaining a healthy weight. Since vegans are the only dietary group in the US to maintain a healthy weight, you might want to consider that they know something most other people don't.

Eat as much as you want, you say. Lose weight this way, you say.

I can tell you're going to be fun in the forums.

VeganCappy

You might want to consider listening to vegans if you are trying to lose weight.

http://nutritionfacts.org/video/thousands-of-vegans-studied/

Because going vegan is the only way to lose weight? How exactly have us who are not vegans managed to lose weight? Oh wait CICO.

Sure, you can do it that way. Or you can ignore calories, eat as much food as you want, and be healthy and full of energy by eating a whole-foods, plant-based diet.

And it isn't about simply losing weight. It is about being healthy and maintaining a healthy weight. Since vegans are the only dietary group in the US to maintain a healthy weight, you might want to consider that they know something most other people don't.

Well here's something you know that I don't. Why did you decide to become a vegan?

Janel,

I went vegan for animal, environmental, and health reasons. I was a very unhealthy, overweight, and had extremely low energy.

I know what you mean about eating *kitten* you don't like. I never liked salad until I reset my pleasure zone. Here is a video that explains what I mean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX2btaDOBK8

Now i can eat a salad without dressing, or a very simple raw dressing and I absolutely love it!

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MelodyandBarbells

You might want to consider listening to vegans if you are trying to lose weight.

http://nutritionfacts.org/video/thousands-of-vegans-studied/

Because going vegan is the only way to lose weight? How exactly have us who are not vegans managed to lose weight? Oh wait CICO.

Sure, you can do it that way. Or you can ignore calories, eat as much food as you want, and be healthy and full of energy by eating a whole-foods, plant-based diet.

And it isn't about simply losing weight. It is about being healthy and maintaining a healthy weight. Since vegans are the only dietary group in the US to maintain a healthy weight, you might want to consider that they know something most other people don't.

Well here's something you know that I don't. Why did you decide to become a vegan?

Janel,

I went vegan for animal, environmental, and health reasons. I was a very unhealthy, overweight, and had extremely low energy.

I know what you mean about eating *kitten* you don't like. I never liked salad until I reset my pleasure zone. Here is a video that explains what I mean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX2btaDOBK8

Now i can eat a salad without dressing, or a very simple raw dressing and I absolutely love it!

And how do you figure the random population would be as motivated as you to be vegan, despite not having the same ethics and convictions regarding animals and the environment?

VeganCappy

And the Vegans strike again!

And they are almost always the ones with no profile picture, no progress pictures and a closed or blank profile page.

Just spouting of vegan info with literature to support their claims put out by vegan websites.

Lol. Pizza being bad for you. Brb....eating pizza 3x this past week and only 5 lbs away from my super vanity goal.

I support my position with science. I have already achieved my goals, now I am here to help others.

Congrats on being 5 lbs from your super vanity goal. But health is not entirely about weight. I will eat a cooked vegan pizza every now and then, but I don't fool myself into thinking it is healthy. It has very little nutrients.

Just because you like something and want to eat it doesn't mean you need to fool yourself into thinking it is healthy. If you recognize stuff as unhealthy, you will be far less likely to over indulge.

Are you saying that I can eat over maintenance and still lose weight? And don't say it's not possible to eat that much because it is
Can you post evidence that vegans are the only group to maintain a healthy weight?
What do you do for your vitamin B12 deficiency?
Pizza does not have very little nutrients if you break it down. Don't let the based documentaries hypnotize you.

As far as meeting goals:
Would you like to show the members you progress pictures to see the success you had?
Would you like to compare with me each of our last full physicals, blood work, ekg, etc to compare how much healthier than I am you are?

Last question, by any chance do you ride your bike a lot, 15, 20, 25 miles per week?

Vegans only group of Americans with a healthy BMI on average. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19351712

B12 is a myth. B12 deficiencies are almost always from absorption issues, not consumptions issues.
"The results of the Framingham Offspring Study indicate that B12 deficiency may be more common than was previously believed. Deficiency is most significantly linked to improper absorption rather than low consumption, as many who consume high amounts of B12 may still experience deficiency."

Fruits and vegetables have over 10,000 phytochemicals, of which, most are lost due to high temp cooking as is the case with pizza. The nutrients that you see on labels are purely essential nutrients. If macronutrients are like fuel for your car, micronutrients are the oil. Phytochemicals are the mechanics that help keep it running smoothly. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytochemical

When striving for health, the goal should be to eat the most nutrients for the fewest number of calories. Dr Joel Fuhrman explains this well. http://www.drfuhrman.com/library/andi-food-scores.aspx

Why are you asking me for anecdotal evidence when I am providing you with empirical evidence?

http://www.nih.gov/researchmatters/june2013/06102013vegetarian.htm

Something to remember is that you need to parse out the science between those groups that have no financial motive and are only interested in promoting health, and those groups which make money by promoting their products or promoting sickness.

VeganCappy

You might want to consider listening to vegans if you are trying to lose weight.

http://nutritionfacts.org/video/thousands-of-vegans-studied/

Because going vegan is the only way to lose weight? How exactly have us who are not vegans managed to lose weight? Oh wait CICO.

Sure, you can do it that way. Or you can ignore calories, eat as much food as you want, and be healthy and full of energy by eating a whole-foods, plant-based diet.

And it isn't about simply losing weight. It is about being healthy and maintaining a healthy weight. Since vegans are the only dietary group in the US to maintain a healthy weight, you might want to consider that they know something most other people don't.

Well here's something you know that I don't. Why did you decide to become a vegan?

Janel,

I went vegan for animal, environmental, and health reasons. I was a very unhealthy, overweight, and had extremely low energy.

I know what you mean about eating *kitten* you don't like. I never liked salad until I reset my pleasure zone. Here is a video that explains what I mean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX2btaDOBK8

Now i can eat a salad without dressing, or a very simple raw dressing and I absolutely love it!

And how do you figure the random population would be as motivated as you to be vegan, despite not having the same ethics and convictions regarding animals and the environment?

Because most people do have a concern for their health and don't want to harm other people. Eating animal products starves millions of people because their food is fed to the animals in which wealthier nations consume.

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VeganCappy

And the Vegans strike again!

And they are almost always the ones with no profile picture, no progress pictures and a closed or blank profile page.

Just spouting of vegan info with literature to support their claims put out by vegan websites.

Lol. Pizza being bad for you. Brb....eating pizza 3x this past week and only 5 lbs away from my super vanity goal.

I support my position with science. I have already achieved my goals, now I am here to help others.

Congrats on being 5 lbs from your super vanity goal. But health is not entirely about weight. I will eat a cooked vegan pizza every now and then, but I don't fool myself into thinking it is healthy. It has very little nutrients.

Just because you like something and want to eat it doesn't mean you need to fool yourself into thinking it is healthy. If you recognize stuff as unhealthy, you will be far less likely to over indulge.

Are you saying that I can eat over maintenance and still lose weight? And don't say it's not possible to eat that much because it is
Can you post evidence that vegans are the only group to maintain a healthy weight?
What do you do for your vitamin B12 deficiency?
Pizza does not have very little nutrients if you break it down. Don't let the based documentaries hypnotize you.

As far as meeting goals:
Would you like to show the members you progress pictures to see the success you had?
Would you like to compare with me each of our last full physicals, blood work, ekg, etc to compare how much healthier than I am you are?

Last question, by any chance do you ride your bike a lot, 15, 20, 25 miles per week?

Vegans only group of Americans with a healthy BMI on average. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19351712

B12 is a myth. B12 deficiencies are almost always from absorption issues, not consumptions issues.
"The results of the Framingham Offspring Study indicate that B12 deficiency may be more common than was previously believed. Deficiency is most significantly linked to improper absorption rather than low consumption, as many who consume high amounts of B12 may still experience deficiency."

Fruits and vegetables have over 10,000 phytochemicals, of which, most are lost due to high temp cooking as is the case with pizza. The nutrients that you see on labels are purely essential nutrients. If macronutrients are like fuel for your car, micronutrients are the oil. Phytochemicals are the mechanics that help keep it running smoothly. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytochemical

When striving for health, the goal should be to eat the most nutrients for the fewest number of calories. Dr Joel Fuhrman explains this well. http://www.drfuhrman.com/library/andi-food-scores.aspx

Why are you asking me for anecdotal evidence when I am providing you with empirical evidence?

http://www.nih.gov/researchmatters/june2013/06102013vegetarian.htm

Something to remember is that you need to parse out the science between those groups that have no financial motive and are only interested in promoting health, and those groups which make money by promoting their products or promoting sickness.

That nbci link did not support your claim that vegans are the only group to maintain a healthy bmi

Vitamin B12 a myth? Good one.

Spare me your biased Furman links. You say not to listen to biased websites but I'm sure that's where most if not all of you empirical evidence will come from no doubt.

You came in touting how you've hit your goals and I am requesting you show the MFP members your progress and what you have achieved. That's not asking much.

Also, answer the bike riding question.

Mean BMI was lowest in vegans (23.6 kg/m(2)) and incrementally higher in lacto-ovo vegetarians (25.7 kg/m(2)), pesco-vegetarians (26.3 kg/m(2)), semi-vegetarians (27.3 kg/m(2)), and nonvegetarians (28.8 kg/m(2)).

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MelodyandBarbells

You might want to consider listening to vegans if you are trying to lose weight.

http://nutritionfacts.org/video/thousands-of-vegans-studied/

Because going vegan is the only way to lose weight? How exactly have us who are not vegans managed to lose weight? Oh wait CICO.

Sure, you can do it that way. Or you can ignore calories, eat as much food as you want, and be healthy and full of energy by eating a whole-foods, plant-based diet.

And it isn't about simply losing weight. It is about being healthy and maintaining a healthy weight. Since vegans are the only dietary group in the US to maintain a healthy weight, you might want to consider that they know something most other people don't.

Well here's something you know that I don't. Why did you decide to become a vegan?

Janel,

I went vegan for animal, environmental, and health reasons. I was a very unhealthy, overweight, and had extremely low energy.

I know what you mean about eating *kitten* you don't like. I never liked salad until I reset my pleasure zone. Here is a video that explains what I mean.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jX2btaDOBK8

Now i can eat a salad without dressing, or a very simple raw dressing and I absolutely love it!

And how do you figure the random population would be as motivated as you to be vegan, despite not having the same ethics and convictions regarding animals and the environment?

Because most people do have a concern for their health and don't want to harm other people. Eating animal products starves millions of people because their food is fed to the animals in which wealthier nations consume.

Whatever you have to tell yourself I guess

broox80

I have had several in my journey . It sucks but it happens. Its my way of thinking that your bod is just playing catch up!!! Make sure you are eating adequate protein and give it time. Dont drop your cals way down, trust me you will be doing more harm than good!! Time is your friend, enjoy the ride and way to go!!! Keep it up!!!!

cmurra6745

thats a start

AzaleaNicole38

I went to a wedding last night and ate lots of chicken and beef and dropped 2 pounds by the morning. There was however a vegan guest at my table that was very much overweight and ate salad all night. All I'm saying is the medium is (or is not?) the message.